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Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:15:00 -
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I think even without sharpshooter, the ranges weren't this low, it's ridiculous.
Tactical Duvolle is only viable weapon presently. Which is ridiculous. |
Rolf The Viking
Ill Omens
EoN.
10
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:18:00 -
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You forgot the GLU-5 Tac Rifle 
Wait for the scrambler rifle. Should have greater range. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
490
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:20:00 -
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The weapon with the longest range also has the highest damage, but its not OP honest. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
46
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:21:00 -
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I'm assuming you meant Sharpshooter Proficiency 3? cause thats about the only way this game will be playable agiain.
the only thing that doesn't need a range boost (or much of one) is laz0rs. However, sounds like those iron sights arent working too well either. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
244
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:22:00 -
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Icy Xenosmilus wrote:I think even without sharpshooter, the ranges weren't this low, it's ridiculous.
Tactical Duvolle is only viable weapon presently. Which is ridiculous.
Sharp shooter 2 tops. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
304
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:22:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:The weapon with the longest range also has the highest damage, but its not OP honest.
The Sniper Rifle? |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
119
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Posted - 2013.05.09 21:24:00 -
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Am I honestly the only person with 6mil+ who never went into sharpshooter? I didn't do it in chromosome so I have to say I like everyone coming to my general range. I have to admit though that I notice a slight damage falloff at ranges were I was okay at before. |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
148
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:10:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:Am I honestly the only person with 6mil+ who never went into sharpshooter? I didn't do it in chromosome so I have to say I like everyone coming to my general range. I have to admit though that I notice a slight damage falloff at ranges were I was okay at before.
Never went into Light Weapon, but did do Sidearm.
Also, I've never said the Duvolle Tac was open, it's just the only well balanced weapon whereas the rest just suck. |
Evane Sa'edi
Forsaken Immortals
Gentlemen's Agreement
67
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:00:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:Am I honestly the only person with 6mil+ who never went into sharpshooter? I didn't do it in chromosome so I have to say I like everyone coming to my general range. I have to admit though that I notice a slight damage falloff at ranges were I was okay at before.
I did spec light weapon sharpshooter to max and the profficency to level3 - this got the sniper rifle range to just over 800metres(+34% of base range). For a sniper rifle this should be medium range. The theoretical max range whould have been 838metres(+40% of base range). For a weapon system that can cover that range in 0.33 seconds, the range was lacking in the extreme. Snipers mostly made the best spotters for the flow of battle & can be useful for protection of critical assets by either counter-sniping or providing cover for other team members.
The base ranges for all weapons need to be adjusted to take in the phyisical properties of the weapons into account. For example, the base Forge Gun can cover its base range of 300metres in 0.04 seconds before its effectiveness is stopped. Its projectiles are shaped, kinetic impact rounds traveling at 7000mps they should keep going until, either, they hit something solid(be it wall, tank or armoured biological entity) or the combined forces of drag and gravity bring it down to the ground in a cloud of shrapnell.
Lasers should have near infinate range, this is light after all. (max speed 300000 Km/sec) Its the focusing mechanics that need to be looked at. |
Beta Dust Fish
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:15:00 -
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15% maybe too much
but 5 or 10% may be better
still doesn't fix the drop off rate garbage |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
684
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:21:00 -
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No, I like everyone being forced to get in nice and cozy for my mass driver.
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
251
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:43:00 -
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bring back medium range gun play.
enough of this codboi stuff.
Peace
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Nstomper
The Sangheli
424
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:47:00 -
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No no ar's are more than good at were they are at |
RoTTeN-1
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:41:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:No no ar's are more than good at were they are at
They are not good were they are at. 65m for any kind of assault rifle is a joke. I have friends that could throw a football longer than that. [ Baseball ] home plate to 2nd base is about 38m, easily reached by the catcher. 300ft is about 90m, Thats a home run in any baseball stadium in the US. CCP needs to extend range on all guns, But reduce efficiency at maxim range. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:49:00 -
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RoTTeN-1 wrote:Nstomper wrote:No no ar's are more than good at were they are at They are not good were they are at. 65m for any kind of assault rifle is a joke. I have friends that could throw a football longer than that. [ Baseball ] home plate to 2nd base is about 38m, easily reached by the catcher. 300ft is about 90m, Thats a home run in any baseball stadium in the US. CCP needs to extend range on all guns, But reduce efficiency at maxim range.
Real world physics are irrelevant within a game unless the games objective is realism wich is not the case here. Also longer range weapons are coming. Gallente weapons are, by definition, the shortest range/highest DPS guns in their respective class so all other racial variants should have matching/superior range but lower potential DPS. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1576
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:55:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:I'm assuming you meant Sharpshooter Proficiency 3? cause thats about the only way this game will be playable agiain.
the only thing that doesn't need a range boost (or much of one) is laz0rs. However, sounds like those iron sights arent working too well either.
Buffing the range on all the weapons but the Laser Rifle would kill it even more dead than it is now.
All weapons will eventually have an Absolute Range beyond their "Max" range so that you can still do damage at a penalty. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
724
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:02:00 -
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Scrambler rifle and laser rifle should get it at 5, them only. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1736
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:04:00 -
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So because the tac AR has the longest range all weapons should get a range boost to compensate? Real good logic there. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3111
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:06:00 -
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I never really touched the AR until now because it's the easy weapon, but I don't really see what you're all complaining about....maybe just the tiniest increase to distance, but I'm usually within reasonable distance to engage as is, and it's just the exile with no SP in infantry skills  |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1736
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:12:00 -
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Yeah, don't understand everyone's problems with range, for the majority of circumstances it's fine, and when it isn't, well I just guess you have to do that thing known as move closer. |
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Stexn byd
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
23
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:24:00 -
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The only changes that needed to be made regarding sharpshooter from the last build were to negate its effect on long range and cqc weapons and removal of the proficiency. While the new graphics are pretty... the major gameplay issues haven't been truly addressed and CCP nerfed our guns on the word of whiners who can't think tactically instead of telling them to HTFU like they should have. |
RoTTeN-1
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:27:00 -
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Real world physics are irrelevant within a game unless the games objective is realism wich is not the case here. Also longer range weapons are coming. Gallente weapons are, by definition, the shortest range/highest DPS guns in their respective class so all other racial variants should have matching/superior range but lower potential DPS.[/quote]
I only used the realism card to show the point i was trying to make. Its a range issue with the guns in this game. The fact that projectiles disappear, while not hitting targets that i can clearly see [With scopes or IS] is game breaking imo and many others i play with. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:02:00 -
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RoTTeN-1 wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:
Real world physics are irrelevant within a game unless the games objective is realism wich is not the case here. Also longer range weapons are coming. Gallente weapons are, by definition, the shortest range/highest DPS guns in their respective class so all other racial variants should have matching/superior range but lower potential DPS.
I only used the realism card to show the point i was trying to make. Its a range issue with the guns in this game. The fact that projectiles disappear, while not hitting targets that i can clearly see [With scopes or IS] is game breaking imo and many others i play with. I understand and i explained to you why i think your point is moot. It is completely irrelevant to me how any of the weapons ingame compare to real ones or even anyones ability to throw things. How long ranges generally should be is subjective and open for discussion but claiming that falloff mechanics are gamebreaking needs more arguments than appealing to real world intuition.
This is not the real world, it doesn't have to behave like it where. It doesn't even have to try. It just has to provide fun and deep engagements and with all the flanking and sneaking up i see and do on the current battlefield i feel that this build does a way better job than the last.
Others have already said that absolute range is coming and i would like to stress that rails and projectiles are coming and will most likely sport longer ranges than current ARs. So there's still hope for people who don't enjoy the close combat twitchiness of the current guns. |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
127
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Posted - 2013.05.19 17:11:00 -
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No, range is fine. I'm a AR player, I don't wanna be killed from every direction by every weapon.
If I'm killed by a sniper, he deserves the kill, because I was out in the open or not moving.
I don't wanna be sniped by ARs or HMGs. They get in range to kill me, and I try to do the same. Shotguns are close range weapons, and smgs are close to mid range. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
251
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:26:00 -
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damn yall are some codbois
ranges are fine the way they are?
what range?
it's 50 yards.
damn yall are so codboi
Peace
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