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          Takahiro Kashuken 
          Red Star. EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 09:46:00 -
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          Look at core skills for vehicles and dropsuits, even look at EVE 
  Engineering and electronics have always given 5% per level, so 25% at lvl 5
  Spaceships in EVE get that 25% bonus, dropsuits get 25%, vehicles get 5% 
  Why? | 
      
      
      
          
          Garrett Blacknova 
          Codex Troopers
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 09:53:00 -
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          ...because they're "fixing" it but so far havne't given a confirmed and clear answer whether the mistake is with the skill description or the effect. | 
      
      
      
          
          Takahiro Kashuken 
          Red Star. EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 09:56:00 -
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          Garrett Blacknova wrote:...because they're "fixing" it but so far havne't given a confirmed and clear answer whether the mistake is with the skill description or the effect.  
  They aint fixing it 
  The new desription has taken away the 5% per level, you get -5% decrease in CPU req for power mods 
  Instead the core upgrades wont give 1% tp PG/CPU just to PG instead 
  So again why the imbalance? | 
      
      
      
          
          Garrett Blacknova 
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 10:09:00 -
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          I looked about 2 hours ago. The description still says "+5% PG per level". It doesn't GIVE that, but it still says it does.
  And there's been no official word on the official forums to confirm anything except "we know about the problem and will fix it" without clearly defining what they think the problem is. | 
      
      
      
          
          Takahiro Kashuken 
          Red Star. EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 10:11:00 -
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          Garrett Blacknova wrote:I looked about 2 hours ago. The description still says "+5% PG per level". It doesn't GIVE that, but it still says it does.
  And there's been no official word on the official forums to confirm anything except "we know about the problem and will fix it" without clearly defining what they think the problem is.  
  My thread on why the secret nerf 
  Its in the 1st post 
 
 Quote:Hello,
  Thanks for your email.
  We are aware of an issue with sp,e skills that not operate as described and our Tech team is currently looking at having a fix deployed very soon in order to get the problem sorted. For information, the following skills and correct descriptions should be:
  Vehicle Core Upgrades -> +1% PG per level. Vehicle Engineering -> Reduces the CPU usage requirement of powergrid upgrade modules at -5% per level.
  I do apologise for the inconvenience.
  Regards,
  GM Vegas CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | Dust 514   | 
      
      
      
          
          Ignoble Son 
          3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 10:14:00 -
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          Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Look at core skills for vehicles and dropsuits, even look at EVE 
  Engineering and electronics have always given 5% per level, so 25% at lvl 5
  Spaceships in EVE get that 25% bonus, dropsuits get 25%, vehicles get 5% 
  Why?  
  Because CCP  HATES , with a maniacal passion, vehicle pilots right now, or anybody how had a desire to be one at least. They hate us so much that, as a dedicated tank pilot, right now, I can't even use my character, and haven't been able to since the update.
  What did I ever do to you CCP?
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQzlzH5wymc&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 
      
      
      
          
          Aoena Rays 
          Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 10:40:00 -
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          Garrett Blacknova wrote:...because they're "fixing" it but so far havne't given a confirmed and clear answer whether the mistake is with the skill description or the effect.   https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=759326#post759326 read this | 
      
      
      
          
          BelleMorte MORTIMOR 
          Betaguards
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 10:47:00 -
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           no they did and they are changing it from +25% pg maxed to - 5% pg ussage from powergrid modules ill link ina sec | 
      
      
      
          
          Garrett Blacknova 
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 10:52:00 -
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           "Power Grid Skill is not correctly applying to vehicles"
  That doesn't give us a straight answer.
  It says there's a problem with a skill that has something to do with powergrid. It doesn't tell us which skill, or what's incorrect about how it's applying. | 
      
      
      
          
          BelleMorte MORTIMOR 
          Betaguards
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 10:58:00 -
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          blams thought on this huge issue https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&p=2 at bottom | 
      
      
      
          
          Mavado V Noriega 
          SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 11:05:00 -
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          Garrett Blacknova wrote:I looked about 2 hours ago. The description still says "+5% PG per level". It doesn't GIVE that, but it still says it does.
  And there's been no official word on the official forums to confirm anything except "we know about the problem and will fix it" without clearly defining what they think the problem is.  
  Once again CCP Blam said last night on IRC that the DESCRIPTION IS BEING FIXED FOR THAT SKILL **** man how ignorant can u be when ppl telling u what he keeps telling us cuz we know wording is a problem with their posts and he gives us a CLEAR answer and relaying it to u and yet u still ignore it.
  Hop on IRC ask him urself when he pops in | 
      
      
      
          
          Garrett Blacknova 
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        Posted - 2013.05.09 11:06:00 -
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          BelleMorte MORTIMOR wrote:  You know if you click the red # number at the top-left of a post, it's a direct link to the specific post you want to find.
  https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=768244#post768244
  Like so.
  And while that implies that the reduction in possible PG is deliberate, and CCP Frame's post implies that the reduction in possible PG is incorrect, we still don't have a straight answer.
  Neither gives a definitive answer on what's going to happen with the skill and we also don't have a timeframe on the fix yet. | 
      
      
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