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Stephen Rao
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Posted - 2013.05.11 12:55:00 -
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OG- Kush wrote:I dont know how they do it ICELAND but here in AMERICA we shed our BLOOD for our freedom of SPEECH..
You can have your freedom of speech, but if you go into an AMERICAN corporate discussion and brainstorming with hyperbole and insults, you'll be thrown out on your ass in no time. What we have here is COMMON SENSE for giving good and effective feedback.
OG- Kush wrote:who gets to decide whats "hyperbole" or not? You think 1 long word justifies millions of lives given to this cause?
The dictionary does:
hy-+per-+bo-+le [hahy-pur-buh-lee] noun Rhetoric .
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as GÇ£to wait an eternity.GÇ¥ |
Stephen Rao
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Posted - 2013.05.11 14:35:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:[quote=Stephen Rao]if it is recognizable as hyperbole why then is it taken seriously? how cud it be mistaken if u apply common sense?
This thread is common sense. The fact that using hyperbole in feedback is not helpful in any way is common sense. Sure, people can identify it as the utter c*** that it is, but it hurts the feedback process in general as good replies are buried in the garbage. Do you think CCP sorted through that 17 page Heavy Petition to see if there was anything valuable said on page 15?
Also, are you saying that it is good/beneficial to have hyperbole in feedback? |
Stephen Rao
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:06:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:are u talking about real garbage? i cant tell.sarcasm.(but u understand what im getting at)
My use of 'garbage' isn't sarcasm. A response like this would be sarcasm:
Yes, real garbage. Useless waste that needs to be thrown away.
Darken-Sol wrote:any time u are trying to change someones mind u may have to use a different approach. persuasion differs from begging. rhetoric cud be used. sarcasm works better on some ppl. we cud try being polite.
Absolutely, but comments viral throughout this forum like "HTFU", calling out peoples lack of skill being the problem, or noob bashing because they asked a question they didn't know the answer to all contribute to a hostile environment.
I'm sorry if you thought my original post was offensive, I found the post I was replying to offensive as it is an example of this threads intended purpose: taking out the garbage  |
Stephen Rao
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Posted - 2013.05.11 15:35:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:i thot it was about hyperbole, we even had a definition in there. well two if u count urs about garbage.
Really dude? Our back and forth has created enough garbage on this thread (garbage being the analogy. If you're still hung up on the word 'garbage', replace them with: worthless, uninformative, counterproductive, good-for-nothing, pointless, poor, unproductive, unusable, etc)
Darken-Sol wrote:in this case it was overwhelming evidence it had nothing to do with "pretty please". i read alot of it not everyone was as positive as ur making out.
My point wasn't that people are positive, it was that the negativity and personal attacks are derailing a vast majority of these threads. Hmmmm....
Darken-Sol wrote:public outrage has its place in changeing things too. as do threats and coersion. take a look back over the thread, there was humiliation there too. if there was no negative feedback (unintentional plug) things wud have stayed the same. IMO single mindedness is garbage. there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Public outrage is all well and good. Rioting on the forums does nothing other than tell CCP "they're not happy". If you don't explain yourself, you're just noise. The louder the noise is, the faster people tune out.
There's plenty of ways to skin a cat, but why try with a crowbar? |
Stephen Rao
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Posted - 2013.05.11 18:31:00 -
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OG- Kush wrote:once again.. there is never a good reason to limit free speech unless someone is degrading someones race or religeon.. Even then.. They still have that RIGHT...
Read the original post again. Krasymptimo's not telling you what to say or how to say it, just that hyperbole's aren't going to help you get you ponit accross, nor is it going to help CCP identify what you're having issues with, or if it's a valid problem.
Spouting nonsense about Free Speech and your rights on the internet is laughable at best. You, of course, can continue to write and claim whatever you want, just as everyone else has a right to ignore you. |
Stephen Rao
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Posted - 2013.05.11 18:50:00 -
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Still blazn wrote:Free speech is laughable? Hmmm you sound like a socialist/ communist
How did you know? 
Declaring that you have a right to free speech is laughable on the internet because everyone has it and may express it. The only thing that would stop it on these forums would be through deleting posts and banning accounts left and right for opinions. I haven't heard about any of that, so why are we yelling about it? |
Stephen Rao
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:07:00 -
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Krasymptimo wrote:edited the OP so that non-specific feedback is touched on, I feel that it can almost have the same effects as hyperbole in some situations!
+1 |
Stephen Rao
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:13:00 -
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I'm glad the Intergalactic Cannibus Cartel is standing up for our right of Free Speech. They're such an admirable group that are only looking out for the best of the community.
Just wondering, has anyone told them they're posting in the wrong thread yet? |
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