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Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 73	Posted - 2013.05.08 16:25:00 - [1] - Quote Now, you've made it plainly obvious you care nothing for an entire style of play, CCP. Once again, you've listened to those who are too lazy to go proper AV, ie the Call of Duty assault fanboys. The vehicle powergrid skill does not work like the main powergrid skill did in the previous build. The prices of turrets has doubled. Instead of 3 million skill points for a good Madrugar/Gunnlogi, it now requires around 7 million skill points to get a good Madrugar/Gunnlogi. There's a small area that a turret could be aimed at and still hit its target. Now instead of turret depression when looking down, like on the last build, we have REVERSE depression in which we can't aim high enough to hit targets. We need 2 powergrid expansion modules to put anything good on our tanks now, because as has been found out, making the skill not work the way it used to is a stealth nerf. You don't need any skill points for advanced AV grenades, because you have the Hacked EX-whatevers that do decent damage. Militia swarm launchers still cause tanks to run away because now we can't run hardeners. The ONLY good thing CCP has done for vehicles is vehicle recall. And at that, I'm surprised they put that in. Like I've said twice before, and now a third time. CCP, just get rid of tanks. You've made it painfully obvious you only truly listen to one subsection of your playerbase, and that's people that believe the automatic rifle is the be-all end-all of warfare. Just. Get. Rid. Of. Tanks.
Groza Tragediya Opus Arcana Orion Empire 89	Posted - 2013.05.08 16:36:00 - [2] - Quote Lol they took the turrets and essentially flipped the axis. Instead of actually doing any real work, they pretty much turned the turret upside down. So now we can hit people that run up on us, but when they get up higher we can't hit them. That is the most slack ass response to an issue i have ever seen. It is funny as ** though. All that complaining about how we cant hit drop-suits that run up on us. So they literally flip the turret upside down so that what use to be the upwards limit is now the lower limit and what was the lower limit is now the upper limit. Now when people complain all they have to say is "bet you liked it the other way" and return it to how it was and do 0 real work. LOL CCP you are **** as a game company.
Soozu 5o1st 72	Posted - 2013.05.08 16:37:00 - [3] - Quote Fact is, they flat out lied to get people to skill back into them. They claimed a skill did one thing, when in fact it ensures people skilled into that one bloody module some dev has been sitting in a corner crying about for moths.. Sniffles, nobody is using PG upgrades.... After realizing this, I just fit two maxed PG enhancers (that I unknowing skilled into) onto my tank and am about to take it out for a spin for the first time. The jist is, they wanted people to use certain item that people weren't using or skilling into. But instead of making those items better, they nerfed everything else around it to prop it up. I have no idea what they are thinking with this build. My shogun is useless.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2013.05.08 16:53:00 - [4] - Quote Soozu wrote: Fact is, they flat out lied to get people to skill back into them. They claimed a skill did one thing, when in fact it ensures people skilled into that one bloody module some dev has been sitting in a corner crying about for moths.. Sniffles, nobody is using PG upgrades.... After realizing this, I just fit two maxed PG enhancers (that I unknowing skilled into) onto my tank and am about to take it out for a spin for the first time. The jist is, they wanted people to use certain item that people weren't using or skilling into. But instead of making those items better, they nerfed everything else around it to prop it up. I have no idea what they are thinking with this build. My shogun is useless. Edit after testing. Aiming is broken, not shooting where aiming. Someone needs firing. Good luck with getting the blame laid where it's due.
BelleMorte MORTIMOR Betaguards 2	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:09:00 - [5] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Soozu wrote: Fact is, they flat out lied to get people to skill back into them. They claimed a skill did one thing, when in fact it ensures people skilled into that one bloody module some dev has been sitting in a corner crying about for moths.. Sniffles, nobody is using PG upgrades.... After realizing this, I just fit two maxed PG enhancers (that I unknowing skilled into) onto my tank and am about to take it out for a spin for the first time. The jist is, they wanted people to use certain item that people weren't using or skilling into. But instead of making those items better, they nerfed everything else around it to prop it up. I have no idea what they are thinking with this build. My shogun is useless. Edit after testing. Aiming is broken, not shooting where aiming. Someone needs firing. Good luck with getting the blame laid where it's due. at least they left us tankers afking dust 514 will have tankers they bee standing around in the mcc chatting on teamspeak about how they wish they could drop down and help but sadly ccp want c.o.d 514 to be the new name of this game
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:01:00 - [6] - Quote Bump
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1421	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:04:00 - [7] - Quote Groza Tragediya wrote: Lol they took the turrets and essentially flipped the axis. Instead of actually doing any real work, they pretty much turned the turret upside down. So now we can hit people that run up on us, but when they get up higher we can't hit them. That is the most slack ass response to an issue i have ever seen. It is funny as ** though. All that complaining about how we cant hit drop-suits that run up on us. So they literally flip the turret upside down so that what use to be the upwards limit is now the lower limit and what was the lower limit is now the upper limit. Now when people complain all they have to say is "bet you liked it the other way" and return it to how it was and do 0 real work. LOL CCP you are ** as a game company. Oh for **'s sake. That's obviously a bug and not a design feature. Grow up.
Charlotte O'Dell Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 310	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:07:00 - [8] - Quote CCP is aware of these problems. In all seriousness, vehicle users band together and keep complaining. That's how we got AV nerfed. That's how we got better tanks. The current problems are glitches and will (hopefully) be fixed on 5/14. Keep complaing. I'm serious. It has worked for us in the past. It will continue to work. Tankers unite!
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:09:00 - [9] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: CCP is aware of these problems. In all seriousness, vehicle users band together and keep complaining. That's how we got AV nerfed. That's how we got better tanks. The current problems are glitches and will (hopefully) be fixed on 5/14. Keep complaing. I'm serious. It has worked for us in the past. It will continue to work. Tankers unite! They've already given us their answer on the vehicle PG upgrade skill. We're basically done.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:10:00 - [10] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Groza Tragediya wrote: Lol they took the turrets and essentially flipped the axis. Instead of actually doing any real work, they pretty much turned the turret upside down. So now we can hit people that run up on us, but when they get up higher we can't hit them. That is the most slack ass response to an issue i have ever seen. It is funny as ** though. All that complaining about how we cant hit drop-suits that run up on us. So they literally flip the turret upside down so that what use to be the upwards limit is now the lower limit and what was the lower limit is now the upper limit. Now when people complain all they have to say is "bet you liked it the other way" and return it to how it was and do 0 real work. LOL CCP you are ** as a game company. Oh for **'s sake. That's obviously a bug and not a design feature. Grow up. If they triple checked the coding, and tried it in-game, they would've seen the problem and fixed it. It looks like they don't care.

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 241	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:11:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Groza Tragediya wrote: Lol they took the turrets and essentially flipped the axis. Instead of actually doing any real work, they pretty much turned the turret upside down. So now we can hit people that run up on us, but when they get up higher we can't hit them. That is the most slack ass response to an issue i have ever seen. It is funny as ** though. All that complaining about how we cant hit drop-suits that run up on us. So they literally flip the turret upside down so that what use to be the upwards limit is now the lower limit and what was the lower limit is now the upper limit. Now when people complain all they have to say is "bet you liked it the other way" and return it to how it was and do 0 real work. LOL CCP you are ** as a game company. Oh for **'s sake. That's obviously a bug and not a design feature. Grow up. Agreed. Some people on these forums are completely stupid though.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 235	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:14:00 - [12] - Quote Hard nerf not only to tanks but to all vehicles as well. It's a sad reality, but well if these are CCP's intentions then we must htfu and accept it. Former dropship pilot btw.
LeCuch Red Star. EoN. 65	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:17:00 - [13] - Quote Im fine with the new tanks and everything and the pg nerf, but please fix the dang turrets D:
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Orion Empire 102	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:28:00 - [14] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: [quote=Charlotte O'Dell] They've already given us their answer on the vehicle PG upgrade skill. We're basically done. Have they honestly said, flat out, what the skill is meant to do? Everything I have seen is "We are working on the bug." Is it a tooltip bug that the Skill does not say what is actually does? Is it a bug that the Skill does not increase PG when it is meant to? Be well.
LeCuch Red Star. EoN. 65	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:29:00 - [15] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: [quote=Charlotte O'Dell] They've already given us their answer on the vehicle PG upgrade skill. We're basically done. Have they honestly said, flat out, what the skill is meant to do? Everything I have seen is "We are working on the bug." Is it a tooltip bug that the Skill does not say what is actually does? Is it a bug that the Skill does not increase PG when it is meant to? Be well. Hello, Thank you for contacting DUST 514 Customer Support Team. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The current issue is the wrong description of Vehicle Engineering skill. It should read more like: "Vehicle engineering reduces the CPU usage requirement of PG upgrade modules at -5% per level." This might be fixed next week, and it suppose be included in the 5/14 patch, although the dates could be changed. Please keep an eye on our forum for any updates: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=898 We thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter and once again apologies for any inconveniences this may have caused. Regards, GM Koshka CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514 That is from CCP, emailed them earlier
Judy Maat Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 30	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:37:00 - [16] - Quote even if you are in violation of the rules for posting a private email exchange of ccp this information is important for the general public and does not reveal sensitive information I hope you dont get punished for posting this.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 681	Posted - 2013.05.08 21:54:00 - [17] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: If they triple checked the coding, and tried it in-game, they would've seen the problem and fixed it. It looks like they don't care. They posted yesterday that they used statistics from matches when they balanced the tanks for Uprising, which showed they were still too strong in Chromosome. Which brings up a rather depressing prospect; CCP Shanghai has no dev that is playing HAV in a serious fashion, they're all infantry spec'ed.


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