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CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:59:00 -
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because people will screw it up again and post threads asking for another reset.
we can all see it coming.
personally I blew all my meagre 4m SP straight away and made no mistakes. I have a caldari assault suit, no idea if that's good compared to other races but I had to choose one, really doesn't matter to me. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:01:00 -
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I threw a lot SP into upgrades on tanks because of false descriptions, I expected to get +15% PG to Vehicles after speccing into the right skill up to level 3, turns out I'm only getting +3%. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:03:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:I threw a lot SP into upgrades on tanks because of false descriptions, I expected to get +15% PG to Vehicles after speccing into the right skill up to level 3, turns out I'm only getting +3%. Does it list the percentage bonus correctly in-game? Did you READ the description of the skill before throwing SP into it? |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:07:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I threw a lot SP into upgrades on tanks because of false descriptions, I expected to get +15% PG to Vehicles after speccing into the right skill up to level 3, turns out I'm only getting +3%. Does it list the percentage bonus correctly in-game? Did you READ the description of the skill before throwing SP into it?
Yep, read correctly, Vehicle Engineering says +5% to max Vehicle PG per level, CCP has confirmed this is incorrect and should say -5% to CPU cost of PG Upgrade Modules per level. So in fact I'm not getting any extra PG at all.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&find=unread |
Spy Mouse
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:09:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I threw a lot SP into upgrades on tanks because of false descriptions, I expected to get +15% PG to Vehicles after speccing into the right skill up to level 3, turns out I'm only getting +3%. Does it list the percentage bonus correctly in-game? Did you READ the description of the skill before throwing SP into it? Yep, read correctly, Vehicle Engineering says +5% to max Vehicle PG per level, CCP has confirmed this is incorrect and should say -5% to CPU cost of PG Upgrade Modules per level. So in fact I'm not getting any extra PG at all. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&find=unread I got Vehicle Engineering to level 4 before realizing that the description was wrong but level 4 is needed anyway for the local PG modules, which are now necessary. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:11:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:I threw a lot SP into upgrades on tanks because of false descriptions, I expected to get +15% PG to Vehicles after speccing into the right skill up to level 3, turns out I'm only getting +3%. Does it list the percentage bonus correctly in-game? Did you READ the description of the skill before throwing SP into it? Yep, read correctly, Vehicle Engineering says +5% to max Vehicle PG per level, CCP has confirmed this is incorrect and should say -5% to CPU cost of PG Upgrade Modules per level. So in fact I'm not getting any extra PG at all. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73748&find=unread I got Vehicle Engineering to level 4 before realizing that the description was wrong but level 4 is needed anyway for the local PG modules, which are now necessary. Sounds like they're trying to make PG based more on fitting that training up skills. If they get it worked out right, I don't really see that as a bad thing. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:12:00 -
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All vehicle specialists should get a reset, we got completely shafted compared to anyone running dropsuits and normal weapons
Ive worked out because of the PG and core skills screw up i have at least wasted 2mil and a further 5mil to parts of vehicles i would have never skilled into because of core skills screw up |
CrotchGrab 360
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:48:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:All vehicle specialists should get a reset, we got completely shafted compared to anyone running dropsuits and normal weapons
Ive worked out because of the PG and core skills screw up i have at least wasted 2mil and a further 5mil to parts of vehicles i would have never skilled into because of core skills screw up
i believe you should get one but it will be the hand that just keeps on giving, people will just ask for a 3rd reset.
I actually think that, like in MAG, once you reach a certain level of whatever you should be able to respec anyway. |
UK-Shots
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
35
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:50:00 -
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people shouldnt of messed up in the 1st place.
months and months of hardwork..gone in a few stupid clicks |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote: Sounds like they're trying to make PG based more on fitting that training up skills. If they get it worked out right, I don't really see that as a bad thing.
Those were still falsely advertised and people might not want the new benefit, which means any SP spent on that is still wasted. |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
70
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:52:00 -
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You want to stop the qq of respec? break the respec bottle, and just allow it. What the harm? I spec right. I warned everyone not to blow their sp. but after thinking about it, I can't think of a single reaon why not to allow it. |
Kwik Draw
Traitors Function
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:46:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:You want to stop the qq of respec? break the respec bottle, and just allow it. What the harm? I spec right. I warned everyone not to blow their sp. but after thinking about it, I can't think of a single reaon why not to allow it. I can. there would be nothing to lose by carelessly upgrading skills.. it completely throws away the value of SP, if you can just remove it n put it where you want... think about it logically. the benefit of more SP would feel stupid . you could literally daily change the class or ur char n try every gun within 1 day fully maxed... soudns dumb to me... |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:56:00 -
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I accidentally threw much of my SP into Gallente Scout when I intended for Minmatar Scout. But I'm not going to ask CCP for a second chance because well... it was my fault for not being careful. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organization
2225
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:57:00 -
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Kwik Draw wrote:Surt gods end wrote:You want to stop the qq of respec? break the respec bottle, and just allow it. What the harm? I spec right. I warned everyone not to blow their sp. but after thinking about it, I can't think of a single reaon why not to allow it. I can. there would be nothing to lose by carelessly upgrading skills.. it completely throws away the value of SP, if you can just remove it n put it where you want... think about it logically. the benefit of more SP would feel stupid . you could literally daily change the class or ur char n try every gun within 1 day fully maxed... soudns dumb to me...and believe me i wasted quite a bit of sp doign the wrong suit 3 times... there needs to be repercussions for carelessly spending sp... :)
This. So much frakking this. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:57:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I accidentally threw much of my SP into Gallente Scout when I intended for Minmatar Scout. But I'm not going to ask CCP for a second chance because well... it was my fault for not being careful.
Yea, but surely you can see where vehicle pilots are coming from.
The description was wrong and what we were getting was worse than what we thought we'd get. |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
8
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:05:00 -
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There should be a reset everyday now until the 14th. What good is a beta if everyone sits around waiting to see what to use. We should be out there testing everything. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
248
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:09:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I accidentally threw much of my SP into Gallente Scout when I intended for Minmatar Scout. But I'm not going to ask CCP for a second chance because well... it was my fault for not being careful. I did the same thing, 2 mill SP gone just like that
Though i don't expect a respec since it's my own fault. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
9
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:13:00 -
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ca ronic wrote:There should be a reset everyday now until the 14th. What good is a beta if everyone sits around waiting to see what to use. We should be out there testing everything.
-åTHIS!
This is what a BETA is supposed to be for: TESTING EVERYTHING!
Normally, I'd even go so far as to suggest a full RESET and make everyone start over at square one on launch day, but I like to think that all the SP people have earned over the course of the beta is their "reward" for participating and providing feedback. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo
75
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:26:00 -
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They can justify giving one more respec because the game hasn't officially launched yet, it's still in beta. After the 14th if people ask for a respec CCP can easily say "Nope, game has been officially released, no more resets or respecs; your choice are now set in stone." |
Kwik Draw
Traitors Function
7
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:24:00 -
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ca ronic wrote:There should be a reset everyday now until the 14th. What good is a beta if everyone sits around waiting to see what to use. We should be out there testing everything. terrible idea.... u cant test something this isnt a new car u can test it by buyiung crappy militia stuff or something. u dont need to test them with maxed out skill.. part of getting the sp is develioping the skill in a sense, not being a master of it all at once. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:37:00 -
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The problem here is NOT that the skill doesn't give an increase to PG.
The problem is that is SAYS it gives that bonus without doing so.
If it actually had the correct description, there wouldn't be a problem here. It doesn't, though, so the problem is extremely large and has wasted a lot of SP for a lot of players. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
44
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:40:00 -
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another respec just before game launch makes sense but after 14th it wont , unless some **** happends on dust servers and everyone gets screwed |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
35
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:47:00 -
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Kwik Draw wrote:ca ronic wrote:There should be a reset everyday now until the 14th. What good is a beta if everyone sits around waiting to see what to use. We should be out there testing everything. terrible idea.... u cant test something this isnt a new car u can test it by buyiung crappy militia stuff or something. u dont need to test them with maxed out skill.. part of getting the sp is develioping the skill in a sense, not being a master of it all at once.
That's kind of the whole point of running a Beta Test: to TEST everything prior to release.
Look it up, because you obviously don't understand what a Beta is for. |
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