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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:39:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=763672#post763672
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=757224#post757224
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=756541#post756541
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=764091#post764091
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=764313#post764313
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=763170#post763170
These are just a few examples.
Everyone is playing a different game.
Are you guys reading all of these?
If you factor in all the threads talking about how the new gunplay and movement are both excellent and have ruined the game completely, I've gotta say that we are THE most schizophrenic community I have ever seen. It's literally like everyone downloaded a different version of Dust.
Just run a search for HMGs and read the threads. You'll find threads complaining that the HMG is now useless and that being a Heavy will just get you killed by ARs and Shotguns.
Now go search those two terms.
Threads on how each of those weapons is nerfed and that you can be easily gunned down by whichever the poster wasn't using.
I mean, is anyone else seeing this?
We're talking about the Devs having no idea what they're doing, but do we? |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:46:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:The threads have been slowing down now though. It was mainly a bunch of crazy wild-eyed kittens who wanted to get their first impression out ASAP without sufficient evidence behind it who posted all those threads. I mean seriously, the stuff that was coming out BEFORE I had finished patching to Uprising was incredible, and I patched as soon as it was available to patch.
But yeah, the "CCP WTF HAVE YOU DONE" phase is almost over, I'd say. Next phase is the nerf phase which'll probably come after the new weapons are out.
Yeah, especially if they don't have range-based damage falloff implemented by that point, at which point the threads on OP Scrambler Rifles will commence in earnest.
It's just been crazy trying to sift through this the last few days with everyone making threads about how things suck without even seeing other people making just as lengthy and detailed cases for the opposite. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:54:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:How many people was playing before the new Build ? - More People - lest people - Few people - 1000 - 10,000 Do you know ? as far as we know, it is "possible" that is more people playing now, that it was a week a go. I personally just returned to Dust 514 for the new build, and i bet you allot of other people did too. 
Did you read the OP instead of just the thread title? I don't mean to sound condescending, but my thread isn't about player count at all. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:01:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:The threads have been slowing down now though. It was mainly a bunch of crazy wild-eyed kittens who wanted to get their first impression out ASAP without sufficient evidence behind it who posted all those threads. I mean seriously, the stuff that was coming out BEFORE I had finished patching to Uprising was incredible, and I patched as soon as it was available to patch.
But yeah, the "CCP WTF HAVE YOU DONE" phase is almost over, I'd say. Next phase is the nerf phase which'll probably come after the new weapons are out. I think we are in the phase where fanbois slurp on CCP taint while the good players step back and take a breath for the next round of rage, I held my tongue till the build came out and i remained quiet and positive, now CCP has nerfed my laser, my tank and my mouse and it irritates me to have to listen to the scrublet fanbois being all sorts of smug over it.
Well they've acknowledged the mouse control bugs, and said they're working on them.
Still keep in mind that ALL weapons have effectively been nerfed across the board by the Sharpshooter skill being changed not to boost your range anymore. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:03:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:How many people was playing before the new Build ? - More People - lest people - Few people - 1000 - 10,000 Do you know ? as far as we know, it is "possible" that is more people playing now, that it was a week a go. I personally just returned to Dust 514 for the new build, and i bet you allot of other people did too. Did you read the OP instead of just the thread title? I don't mean to sound condescending, but my thread isn't about player count at all. Sorry... but you post sounds like another of those " No one is playing Dust 514 " or " Every one is leaving " topics... sorry if i was wrong.. BTW "It's literally like everyone downloaded a different version of Dust 514 " It is a different version of Dust 514.... just saying.
But what I'm saying is that every person downloaded their own different version. All these threads sound like each poster is playing a different version of the game from all the others. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:14:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:[quote=Panther Alpha][quote=Mobius Wyvern]
But what I'm saying is that every person downloaded their own different version. All these threads sound like each poster is playing a different version of the game from all the others. Nahh, just people complaining about their favorite toy not feeling how it use too. Give it some time, people will stop complaining ones the learn the new game mechanics. I seen this happen in so many games, that is lost the count. 
I have too, but never to this extent. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:36:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:
I have, some times even worst than this. In fact, is not half as bad as i thought it will be.
You must have been in some pretty fearsome communities. Not even the Planetside 2 forums get this bad, though that might be due to the GMs banning anyone who disagrees with them and most people just giving up and leaving. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:49:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:
I have, some times even worst than this. In fact, is not half as bad as i thought it will be.
You must have been in some pretty fearsome communities. Not even the Planetside 2 forums get this bad, though that might be due to the GMs banning anyone who disagrees with them and most people just giving up and leaving. Rolf.. you should seen the Counter Strike community when Condition Zero was release....Ough!! A year later.. everyone LOVED CZ ...
The only issue is if we can get people to agree enough that we get a worthwhile hotfix on the 14th. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:52:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Quote: We're talking about the Devs having no idea what they're doing, but do we? no we dont
It certainly seems like it. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:08:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Tested the Uprising build and with an assault starter fit I used the militia SMG to gun down HMG heavies. Discovered the laser had a worthless iron sight that also has an optical effect that blocks target vision makeing the laser worthless. Scanners and profile skills are again broken. Tanks got a PG nerf makeing them worthless. Assault dropships are combat worthless but very expensive flying trashcans. The only usefull weapons that work are the AR and to some extent the SMG. AR 514. Wheres the AR overheat skill that kills a user like the laser does?? Wheres the nova knife fix?? CCP trolled us on a few things. Back to playing Skyrim, Tombraider, Dead Island, Borderlands 2, etc.
Again, read the threads talking about how ARs are now useless.
And do you really need to refer to changes as CCP trolling people? It's not accurate, and it certainly isn't helpful. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:24:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Tested the Uprising build and with an assault starter fit I used the militia SMG to gun down HMG heavies. Discovered the laser had a worthless iron sight that also has an optical effect that blocks target vision makeing the laser worthless. Scanners and profile skills are again broken. Tanks got a PG nerf makeing them worthless. Assault dropships are combat worthless but very expensive flying trashcans. The only usefull weapons that work are the AR and to some extent the SMG. AR 514. Wheres the AR overheat skill that kills a user like the laser does?? Wheres the nova knife fix?? CCP trolled us on a few things. Back to playing Skyrim, Tombraider, Dead Island, Borderlands 2, etc. Again, read the threads talking about how ARs are now useless. And do you really need to refer to changes as CCP trolling people? It's not accurate, and it certainly isn't helpful. Killfeed: Gek Gek Duvolle Militia AR Gek Allotek Duvolle Gek Gek SMG Nope no one is using ARs..........sarcasm. But those same AR users post threads about how the AR is useless so that Dust will evolve to be AR 514. Shuts off Dust 514 and goes back to Skyrim.
YES. NOW you're seeing the picture.
Everyone is full of ****. THAT was my point.
As a community, we need to try and take a step back to look at all of this objectively. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:29:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
Wheres the AR overheat skill that kills a user like the laser does??
lol whut? or do you mean the 'heat glow' animation as per the patch notes (if you read them)ps. in the future we are unable to automatically cut out a system before it overheats and blows up the user.. the future.. not really full of clever people then..... HMG gets overheat and siezes for ten seconds leaving the user vulnerable to counter fire. Laser over heats and siezes for five seconds leaving the user vulnerable to counter fire. Laser overheats and kills user. Wheres the sieze for an AR? AR overheat? Un pauses Skyrim and continues a Deadric weapon quest.
It's not going to need one once the Scrambler comes out and everyone switches to that to hit at longer ranges. Then you'll hear complaints from shield tankers about how it's OP against them.
The point is that a Blaster is supposed to be used for closer fighting. Right now all of the weapons have suffered the loss of Sharpshooter range bonus, so EVERYONE is in close. As the other weapons get added in, and the ranges become more diverse, the shorter range of the Gallente AR will be the balance factor against its higher damage. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:35:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:
TBH I am worried about the health of the game. I am surprised but happy they gave us a player count tool on login.
The highest I saw the player count get in E3 was 3k.
The highest I've seen so far this build is 4.5k.
I am amazed that this game is FREE and hardly anyone is playing it. It's new, it's different, it's an FPS so why aren't more people jumping on the miniscule bandwagon to play the game?
I seriously don't understand why the player count is so low. One thing post E3 that made the game fun again was all the influx of new blood, I was tired of seeing the same 300 people in my games (still am). But for a week or so it was nothing but new people in the player lists and it was great.
I'm gonna say a combination of bad press, some of it from us, and CCP having done almost nothing to advertise.
Look at these other big games with all their trailers, TV spots, and site banner ads? Hell, even EVE Online has more advertisements out there than Dust. Most of the people I talk to about the game have never even heard of it.
I had one friend of mine who linked me a picture when I mentioned I was playing the game. It was of two guys in suits labeled as "EVE players" standing on the sidelines watching as two guys in rags labeled as "Dust players" fought to the death. There isn't enough info out there to counter misconceptions like that. |
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