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tander09
RISE OF THE EMPIRE
DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:03:00 -
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Look, I don't hate the AR's, but this AR I hate and here is why.
1.Its ludicrus ROF is what makes this weapon a hater to all who got killed by this weapon. Its just, too fast to get away alive from.
2.Its damage. the origional damage is the same as its militia brother. but multiply with damage modifiers and skill up, it will get on peoples nerves.
THE SOLUTION.
1. either nerf its ROF or damage
2. make its magazine very low (like 20 or something)
thatway, It will be a even playing field. |
RINON114
B.S.A.A.
130
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:30:00 -
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Lol, do you even know what you're talking about? |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
Orion Empire
1263
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:32:00 -
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Dude, we got what we wanted and that was a range reduction - leave it the **** alone.
I hated Assault Rifles with a passion and even I'm happy with where they are right now. |
tander09
RISE OF THE EMPIRE
DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:57:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Dude, we got what we wanted and that was a range reduction - leave it the **** alone.
I hated Assault Rifles with a passion and even I'm happy with where they are right now.
range!??!?! I was talking about its dobglobit ROF and damage, its still OP. |
tander09
RISE OF THE EMPIRE
DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:58:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:Lol, do you even know what you're talking about?
I'm talking about the Infamous GEK-38 AR. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
544
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:03:00 -
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tander09 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Dude, we got what we wanted and that was a range reduction - leave it the **** alone.
I hated Assault Rifles with a passion and even I'm happy with where they are right now. range!??!?! I was talking about its dobglobit ROF and damage, its still OP.
Face it, the AR is the elephant in the room CCP wants to ignore. It's the "Old Reliable," that they probably think is going to attract CoD kids and tryhards alike. I'm with you on the entire AR line needing a damage nerf, (since every other weapon got one) but unfortunately it's never going to happen. |
Chilled Pill
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
56
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:18:00 -
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QQ about the Tac AR next. :) |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
108
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:29:00 -
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Default full auto assault rifles are fine.
Tactical assault rifles are ridiculous now. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
545
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:49:00 -
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I'd rather get killed by a TAR than what's been showing up on the kill feed.
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(GEK-38)
You guys do know there's other light weapons, right? |
tander09
RISE OF THE EMPIRE
DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:54:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I'd rather get killed by a TAR than what's been showing up on the kill feed.
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(GEK-38)
You guys do know there's other light weapons, right?
IKR the TAR weps I'd rathe get killed with than dem weps listed. |
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
825
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:56:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I'd rather get killed by a TAR than what's been showing up on the kill feed.
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(GEK-38)
You guys do know there's other light weapons, right?
people got their wish.
I'm noticing a lack of variety in deployed weapons here. i wonder why... |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
545
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Posted - 2013.05.08 09:16:00 -
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Because except for the sniper rifle, the AR was the only light weapon that didn't get a damage nerf. Last build was easy mode for AR Assaults with SS. Everything now is less twitch, more strafe and track, but the AR is still easy mode because everything else took a hit. It takes me almost a full clip to kill a standard suit with my MD now. There's no balance, and I'll bet you 100,000,000,000ISK that almost no one that matters is going to use the scrambler rifle, the flaylock will probably get nerfed and PC/FW/CB will be about AR or GTFO because of elitist tryhards thinking the AR is the best weapon in the game. |
tander09
RISE OF THE EMPIRE
DARKSTAR ARMY
5
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Posted - 2013.05.08 09:59:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Because except for the sniper rifle, the AR was the only light weapon that didn't get a damage nerf. Last build was easy mode for AR Assaults with SS. Everything now is less twitch, more strafe and track, but the AR is still easy mode because everything else took a hit. It takes me almost a full clip to kill a standard suit with my MD now. There's no balance, and I'll bet you 100,000,000,000ISK that almost no one that matters is going to use the scrambler rifle, the flaylock will probably get nerfed and PC/FW/CB will be about AR or GTFO because of elitist tryhards thinking the AR is the best weapon in the game. So, if CCP really wants this game to be balanced or just a damn AR orgy, either buff everything else back to what it was, or nerf the AR too. This favoritism Mickey Mouse bull **** has to stop.
I'm with you with that part (the one that was underlined). |
udc
Sektor Sieben Kybernetik GWK
20
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:26:00 -
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I guess now CCP wants us to rely on skill or something. Gee thanks CCP. Thanks so much. |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
108
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:34:00 -
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For the record, my primary weapons are the shotgun and laser rifle. AR is too short ranged for my tastes. |
Arx Ardashir
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:00:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:For the record, my primary weapons are the shotgun and laser rifle. AR is too short ranged for my tastes.
Emphasis added. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
1
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:07:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I'd rather get killed by a TAR than what's been showing up on the kill feed.
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(Duvolle)
(GEK-38)
(GEK-38)
You guys do know there's other light weapons, right?
not anymore ur whining got them all nerfed to the point of uselessness |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
248
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:12:00 -
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HMGs lost 12% of their damage, ARs should too. |
Beheme Malivolk
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:14:00 -
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Range nerf was a bad nerf. Deal. |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
38
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:06:00 -
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The problem is not the AR. You might die to them more often, but thats because more people use them than any other weapon. At this point all weapons are broken, range and damage. 1-2 clips even with my gek to get a kill. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
568
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:19:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:not anymore ur whining got them all nerfed to the point of uselessness
Beheme Malivolk wrote:Range nerf was a bad nerf. Deal.
When did the AR get nerfed? Sharpshooter was changed because it was game breaking. If anything the AR line got a buff. TAR is back to it's former glory and requires more than just a turbo controller to use, bursts are deadly like they should be, breach is a CQC monster, and the standard is the jack of all trades, master of none it was supposed to be. Damage is fine if it's supposed to be the standard that all the other weapons should be dealing, but the problem is none of the weapons except for sidearms and the shotgun got nerfed below that standard to even compete with it. I'm tired of nerfing, but if everything else took a damage or utility hit, the AR needs to as well or none of them should. What's the point of having other weapons if the AR still doesn't have any weaknesses. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
424
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:21:00 -
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tander09 wrote:Look, I don't hate the AR's, but this AR I hate and here is why.
1.Its ludicrus ROF is what makes this weapon a hater to all who got killed by this weapon. Its just, too fast to get away alive from.
2.Its damage. the origional damage is the same as its militia brother. but multiply with damage modifiers and skill up, it will get on peoples nerves.
THE SOLUTION.
1. either nerf its ROF or damage
2. make its magazine very low (like 20 or something)
thatway, It will be a even playing field.
Liked for successful troll attempt. |
Aeon Amadi
WarRavens
Orion Empire
1265
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:35:00 -
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Laser Rifles got nerfed (from what I hear) and HMGs got HAMMER NERFED which puts all weaponry at a similar range of about 50m.
As a side effect, everyone now travels in large groups rather than splintered groups.
The reason you are seeing Duvolles and GEKs the most on the killfeed is because they're versatile for the ranges we're currently engaging at - thusly those two large groups and killing each other in rapid succession with the most efficient and practical weapon available. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
215
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Posted - 2013.05.09 07:08:00 -
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The LR was nerfed hard. The iron sites obscure the target, the glow of the laser obscures the target and the range does not seem to be what the LR should be at. I thought it was a medium ranged weapon but it's not, it feels more like a short range weapon. |
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