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JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:33:00 -
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Is it just me or is there alot more grenades being tossed around then usual in this build. By the way, do you guys think there should be a skill or mod to lessen the damage recieved from explosives, or do you think it would basically imbalance the game too much such as putting MD users out of business? |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
539
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:35:00 -
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Yep. ALOT more. And with the recent change. It is harder to see a nade on the ground...
Most of my scout deaths come from damn grenades... |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:38:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Yep. ALOT more. And with the recent change. It is harder to see a nade on the ground...
Most of my scout deaths come from damn grenades...
Yup my buddy runs a scout and man is he afraid of grenades lol and rightfully so |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
540
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:40:00 -
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JETSTORM1090 wrote:Is it just me or is there alot more grenades being tossed around then usual in this build. By the way, do you guys think there should be a skill or mod to lessen the damage recieved from explosives, or do you think it would basically imbalance the game too much such as putting MD users out of business?
Aiming is a bit wonky so people panic and lob grenades.
And since the ninja nerf, MD is out of business |
mollerz
s1ck3r Corp
205
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:43:00 -
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because last build you'd mash the button and give up half the time when no made flew.
this build i sometimes nade with invisible hands. Got my hand cloak working I suppose  |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2788
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:45:00 -
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JETSTORM1090 wrote:By the way, do you guys think there should be a skill or mod to lessen the damage recieved from explosives
Skill: Shield Control.
Mod: Shield Extender.
You're welcome. |
VLIGHT5
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
53
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:49:00 -
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There needs to be a flashing 'incoming grenade' icon on the screen. It's really hard to notice them sometimes. And when you're playing Minmatar Scout? Ha, good luck surviving a hit from anything, let alone a grenade. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2792
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Posted - 2013.05.08 06:58:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:There needs to be a flashing 'incoming grenade' icon on the screen. It's really hard to notice them sometimes. And when you're playing Minmatar Scout? Ha, good luck surviving a hit from anything, let alone a grenade.
But at the same time, good luck lining up a grenade throw on a Minmatar Scout. Gallente are hard enough to land a grenade on, Minnies are nuts.
Unless they stop moving, in which case, they have no business in a Scout suit. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
325
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:02:00 -
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My grenades travel farther than my HMG. Of course I be spamming them. |
dust badger
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
304
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:06:00 -
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I think this build most of my kills have come from grenades as i cant decide what i want to skill in to, so i run around with a starter fit and proto nades as what ever route i take ill need good nades |
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J Falcs
Bojo's School of the Trades
29
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Posted - 2013.05.08 12:21:00 -
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I think it's a byproduct of the lower ranges on the weapons now. But, I have both noticed this and been a culprit of it. I decided to just spec into MD despite the naysayers simply because I have faith that things will get better...  |
ca ronic
Moffit Bros
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:14:00 -
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How far can you throw a grenade? A lot more hitting me, never see them or where they came from. I'm tossing them as fast as I can also. Nanite injector is kind of useless, so carry nanohives and thow a lot of grenades. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
148
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:29:00 -
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1. many are used to running proto stuff against militia dudes thus they run straight at you thinking they are pro and invincible.
I use this to my advantage, cook a grenade, throw it in front of the protobears feet and laugh my ass off while I am finishing them off with my scrambler pistol.
even more funny when you see a group of 3 running straight at you, taking a grenade into the face and dieing to my scrambler pistol 
2. all the suits have more HP and guns do less damage thus most people open with grenades to kill faster
3. there are less dedicated tank drivers, thus you are better off with flux or normal grenades. |
Drommy Hood
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:33:00 -
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was playing a map last night on the map where the base in the middle has the drilling machine (i think its a drilling machine, theres a big round hole in the ground anyway). And everyone, EVERYONE started in the same room.
I nade spammed like crazy. kills o'clock |
xxMemphis
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:37:00 -
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Nades have the most range now so why not. I can throw a nade across the street and get the kill but you cannot shoot across it that would be OP..... |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:01:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:JETSTORM1090 wrote:By the way, do you guys think there should be a skill or mod to lessen the damage recieved from explosives Skill: Shield Control. Mod: Shield Extender. You're welcome.
Yeah I have shield control 3 at the moment with a nice amount of shield extenders, just surprised there isn't a explosive specific skill or mod, but sheild control and extenders certainly help. |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
43
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:03:00 -
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Drommy Hood wrote:was playing a map last night on the map where the base in the middle has the drilling machine (i think its a drilling machine, theres a big round hole in the ground anyway). And everyone, EVERYONE started in the same room.
I nade spammed like crazy. kills o'clock
Lol everyone puts out nanohives and goes to work. |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
151
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:07:00 -
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Grenade 514. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2820
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:16:00 -
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JETSTORM1090 wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:JETSTORM1090 wrote:By the way, do you guys think there should be a skill or mod to lessen the damage recieved from explosives Skill: Shield Control. Mod: Shield Extender. You're welcome. Yeah I have shield control 3 at the moment with a nice amount of shield extenders, just surprised there isn't a explosive specific skill or mod, but sheild control and extenders certainly help.
Increasing shields increases resistance specifically against explosives and ballistic weapons. HMG already does no damage, and SMG is a low-damage high-RoF sidearm. Everything else that shields are good against is explosives. |
Travi Zyg
G I A N T
EoN.
61
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:19:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Yep. ALOT more. And with the recent change. It is harder to see a nade on the ground...
Most of my scout deaths come from damn grenades...
Minnie Scout reporting in here. Gettin popped with grenades way more than gunfire . comes with the territory though, im actually sure it was you Marauder or one of your other guys who popped me multiple times yesterday with the M1 locus |
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Monocle Cognac
Universal Allies Inc.
25
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:31:00 -
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Could be that a lot of people never skilled up grenades last build, but were impressed by the results of the advanced and higher grenades, so they started using them this build. That is the case for me. My decision to use grenades was made in Chromosome before I experienced the range nerfs. |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
120
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:33:00 -
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Yep, I commented on this a bunch yesterday. All the various stat and weapon changes mean nades have been massively buffed simply because the range of engagements has decreased. Even if people werent having trouble shooting, the range of the guns means you are almost always in nade range.
Add in the lower damage (not on the guns themselves, but through the skills being pricier) and the inability for folks to aim, and its nade city. Also the speed reduction of most suits...
Though, sprint straifing should help a little to help dodge if you see them coming.
I hate to say it, but I think nades need a nerf to get them to be a better fit in the new sandbox. Lower range +lower speeds means we need to nerf the explosion range of the nades. |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers
EoN.
146
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:04:00 -
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Nades pwn anyone who went armor classes... militia locust nades account for most of my deaths in my gallante Proto basic suit. The splash damage hits me for 400-850 damage so far making militia nades a one shot mechanic against all armored assaults.
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Severance Pay
Planetary Response Organization
178
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:07:00 -
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Anyone ever play BRINK? nades had a cooldown that you had to skill into. Just a suggestion. |
bonkersfox
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:18:00 -
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it says it all when i can throw further than i can shoot |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
539
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:20:00 -
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Travi Zyg wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Yep. ALOT more. And with the recent change. It is harder to see a nade on the ground...
Most of my scout deaths come from damn grenades... Minnie Scout reporting in here. Gettin popped with grenades way more than gunfire . comes with the territory though, im actually sure it was you Marauder or one of your other guys who popped me multiple times yesterday with the M1 locus
Wasnt me. However I do infact get killed more by nades than gunfire  |
Severance Pay
Planetary Response Organization
178
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:44:00 -
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bonkersfox wrote:it says it all when i can throw further than i can shoot
It's not true but close enough to be funny so +1 |
Severance Pay
Planetary Response Organization
178
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:46:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:Yep, I commented on this a bunch yesterday. All the various stat and weapon changes mean nades have been massively buffed simply because the range of engagements has decreased. Even if people werent having trouble shooting, the range of the guns means you are almost always in nade range.
Add in the lower damage (not on the guns themselves, but through the skills being pricier) and the inability for folks to aim, and its nade city. Also the speed reduction of most suits...
Though, sprint straifing should help a little to help dodge if you see them coming.
I hate to say it, but I think nades need a nerf to get them to be a better fit in the new sandbox. Lower range +lower speeds means we need to nerf the explosion range of the nades.
Swear to god, if you comment anymore, they gonna nerf the kitten out of them. |
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