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fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 270	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:18:00 - [1] - Quote Ok so to prevent combat swapping CCP has moved all the supply depots out of the active battle field and has implemented a you swap it you lose it policy. I have mixed feeling about this, I think the losing suits on swap is a travesty, and while combat swapping could be annoying it was never, IMHO, practical or reliable enough to be a problem, and not worth the the loss of additional tactical points on the field. not to mention the AR tends to chew through ammo way to fast now making nano hive insufficient to keep up with the ammo needs of the team in an extended fire fight. That said it does reenforce nano hives and adds a certain tactical level of team play that wasn't there before. Also oddly enough my last complaint might change the way we play the game reducing the number of meat grinders and penalizing wolf packing.........maybe should be interesting to see. So what do all of you think, this is something that deserves a good conversation before it become so normal that the community becomes polarized on it.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 681	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:30:00 - [2] - Quote Spits out Glass of Milk Say what now!?!?! So you mean to tell me those hundreds of miles I ran to find a supply depot to switch to my AV fit to take out the tank that's been suppresing our team is actually costing me money?!? When the supply depot decides to be a stuck up prick and not give me ammo while I'm standing next to it, forcing me to switch fits. That...thats costing me money!? CCP I swear your going to give me a stroke or a heart attack with these "Balancing" changes of yours. Especially you know the controversial finnicky ones that would definitely need to be run by your community before just throwing it in there. Lets not forget that you "mistakenly" forgot to put it in the patch notes too.... so disappointed this week...
Umbat Boki Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 157	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:34:00 - [3] - Quote Can someone else confirm this? If it's true, sounds like a bug to me. Can we get a word from CCP?
fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 270	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:36:00 - [4] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Spits out Glass of Milk Say what now!?!?! So you mean to tell me those hundreds of miles I ran to find a supply depot to switch to my AV fit to take out the tank that's been suppresing our team is actually costing me money?!? When the supply depot decides to be a stuck up prick and not give me ammo while I'm standing next to it, forcing me to switch fits. That...thats costing me money!? CCP I swear your going to give me a stroke or a heart attack with these "Balancing" changes of yours. Especially you know the controversial finnicky ones that would definitely need to be run by your community before just throwing it in there. Lets not forget that you "mistakenly" forgot to put it in the patch notes too.... so disappointed this week... ohh sorry I thought this had made its rounds already. uuummm... yea hate to be the bearer of bad news, I haven't seen it myself but its been on the forums and verified by my corp mates. Like I said travesty.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 539	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:38:00 - [5] - Quote Umbat Boki wrote: Can someone else confirm this? If it's true, sounds like a bug to me. Can we get a word from CCP? ^This I swap my suits for equipment purposes on my logistics. If this is true, I'm spending ~100k just to lay out mines and explosives.
Rolf The Viking Ill Omens EoN. 10	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:39:00 - [6] - Quote On a podcast interview tonight CCP Wang confirmed this is a bug and we should not lose a suit at the supply depot. Expect a fix.
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries 297	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:42:00 - [7] - Quote I don't think this is true. I'm one of those combat swapper guys. I think it's a legitimate strategy if you get overwhelmed or the enemy is stupid enough to come at you one at a time to a supply depot. There was one match earlier where I was using this tactic a lot (like maybe 6+ times), and I only ended up dying twice or something in the match, and at the end, I only had to buy 2 fits back to replenish the ones I had lost. A confirmation from a dev would be nice, if we can get it.
fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 270	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:44:00 - [8] - Quote Rolf The Viking wrote: On a podcast interview tonight CCP Wang confirmed this is a bug and we should not lose a suit at the supply depot. Expect a fix. ahhh excellent, least this was informative. Hopefully this will be fixed faster then the skirmish stats bug(also not fixed yet). That said thoughts on the removal of depots from the active battlefield and whether or not you think that combat swapping was problematic enough to warrant their removal(if that was indeed the reason).
fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 270	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:46:00 - [9] - Quote Parson Atreides wrote: I don't think this is true. I'm one of those combat swapper guys. I think it's a legitimate strategy if you get overwhelmed or the enemy is stupid enough to come at you one at a time to a supply depot. There was one match earlier where I was using this tactic a lot (like maybe 6+ times), and I only ended up dying twice or something in the match, and at the end, I only had to buy 2 fits back to replenish the ones I had lost. A confirmation from a dev would be nice, if we can get it. I think it was a valid tactic while it could be annoying it also left you vulnerable, it had a sufficient risk to reward that I can't really see the issue.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2790	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:49:00 - [10] - Quote It hasn't happened every time to me, but it's happened enough to confirm it's happening to me too. But then, as ROlf said, confirmed known bug, expect fix. Hopefully before release.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2790	Posted - 2013.05.08 06:55:00 - [11] - Quote fred orpaul wrote: ahhh excellent, least this was informative. Hopefully this will be fixed faster then the skirmish stats bug(also not fixed yet). Actually, it has. Kind of. Instead of only getting no stats in Skirmish, we now just don't get stats at all. FIXED, CCP STYLE!
fred orpaul The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 271	Posted - 2013.05.08 07:00:00 - [12] - Quote lol right?!. That said as frustrating as this build is and as much as I really want to take it out on someone(CCP), lets get back to the subject at hand, and see if we can't head off some more of the head aches of this build, and maybe come out of it with some good ideas.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 541	Posted - 2013.05.08 07:04:00 - [13] - Quote So is it just the suit or the entire fitting? If it's just the suit, I'll just downgrade to my sever BPO for a while.


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