Too late my friend.

The core of the game is already there in all it's sub 30 FPS glory.

It's cooked. Unless the engine is re-written, don't expect any massive changes.

Well, the movements and the aim were better in the last build so they can at least go back to that.

Very well said. Hopefully PC brings some new action? But I'm afraid it is about new weapons and the same old tired maps.

Adapt or Die

Well, the movements and the aim were better in the last build so they can at least go back to that.

Well, the movements and the aim were better in the last build so they can at least go back to that.

In most cases for FPS - the launching build is it. Only tweaks happen from there.


But we can expect a lot more from CCP - the problem is... it takes an entire generation of games to get it. By the time they fixed dust open world FPS MMOs will be out on consoles, effectively killing CCP's edge of doing something new.

The only thing DUST will have is consumable suits before this game stops sucking.

This is it boys - they launched with this build. This is the game they desired and saw effective enough to take the beta tag off. And now I've lost almost all faith in CCP over it.

Honestly, the build really isn't bad. They have made some changes to skill points and gear that I don't agree with but that's not a big deal. I would just have to accept it. We hate it because we've been accustomed to certain things but a new player will be totally fine with it.

Everything is pretty much ok except to the way that the game feels and, for the nth time, the aiming system sucks. If they can make the movement more smooth and revert the aim back to Chromosome, then it will be fine.

I was really expecting 24v24 this build. Because I think adding an additional 8 players to each side will increase carnage and make the game more fun. 24v24 should really be available next week at launch because they have been promising that they are going to start with 24v24 battles for a few years now.

But seriously...if they roll back the aiming system and, for the nth time, make movements smooth (would be better if they slightly increase movement speed as well)...then this game would be formidable.

Well, the most I can hope for, is atleast a roll back of mechanics to last build.... I can "live" with the short range and a bit of unbalance, but the way this game sits now, it's unplayable. Does the new graphics hog too much of a ps3 to allow the old style mechanics? Or did CCP just arbitrarily change the mechanics for no good reason?

If I was anything but an HMG Heavy ... maybe I'd agree. But if you didn't know - at the proto level things were tough before. Thanks to this absolutely ****** build - things are now damn near impossible. If you're not hating it like I am - it just means CCP didn't nuke your weapon and you have nothing to honestly cry about.

I - on the other hand - have plenty.

Exactly, I can live with a lot of this build besides the aim mechanics, and I agree with Dubbs even though I have never played MAG through the videos and stories Ive heard from MAG players, it seems like there is a lot more to the matches besides cap and defend which sure seems like it would give a more open world feel then Dust has provided this far... Even with planetary conquest, I can't see getting anymore excited besides bragging rights..

The way Dust matches are now even with the roll back of the aim mechanics, sure its competitive but there just really isn't much to the game types... By CCP changing the niche of every class (Eg: The nerfs for more CQC, taking out supply depots and limiting Equipment slots to only logistics) I'm afraid this is their way of trying to "add" flavor to the stale game type ?

It sure seems like the easiest way to do it with out actually adding any content.. Someone needs to take a back seat at CCP because like many have said before this does not feel like a "Launch build", more like a precursor to something great, and seeing how EVE has grown throughout the 10yrs, I hope this is the case.. Even though they aren't in the same market "EVE CCP" has been good on learning from their mistakes lets just hope "Dust CCP" will see the light and start play testing and actually listening to their community...

Things like rolling back the nerf to range and damage of the HMG and slightly increasing the base health on the heavy suit are pretty easy and quick fixes that CCP can do to help heavies, plus it only affects a relatively small percentage of players.

Things like fixing the movement and aim system is something that is probably going to take time, and that's something CCP doesn't really have so they need to get to work on quickly, plus it affects basically everyone. I went on my heavy alt (6mil SP) today and it was pretty bad, but it still didn't feel as bad as on my main (10mil SP) needing literally an entire clip to kill one guy with 33% of his armor left because 90% of my shots are missing due to this horrible aiming.

It would be easy to do.

Now let me ask - how easy is it to fix the price of the proto suit? Took 6+ months.

Doom 'n' Gloom. CCP track record shows heavies are pretty much ****** for half a year.

In most cases for FPS - the launching build is it. Only tweaks happen from there.


But we can expect a lot more from CCP - the problem is... it takes an entire generation of games to get it. By the time they fixed dust open world FPS MMOs will be out on consoles, effectively killing CCP's edge of doing something new.

The only thing DUST will have is consumable suits before this game stops sucking.

This is it boys - they launched with this build. This is the game they desired and saw effective enough to take the beta tag off. And now I've lost almost all faith in CCP over it.

It's not going to happen.

You are playing the release build.

The only way this game will change is either to port it to more powerful hardware or start again with a new engine.

You're right.

They haven't already been able to improve beyond the limitations of previous builds.

And there certainly aren't any games built in UE3 with better capabilities than the current build of DUST...

There aren't any multi-player games with the ambitions that Dust has you utter tard.

You can see it for your ******* self every time you load the game. The engine is creaking. It can't even hit the target 30FPS.

Spastic fanboys.

I misread your post. I apologize.

I am a little unsettled of late after being told that the PS3 can run UE3 at 1000 fps if devs want it to.

/twitches with rage

The UE3 engine has always been unkind to the PS3. The game just needs more powerful hardware to realize it's potential.

The PS3 is just not powerful enough.