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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:20:00 -
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This game is becoming grenade 514 because it's more reliable than any weapon..hit detection is no problem with m1's. Flux grenade's do 2 much damage and it feels like people can hold them and wait for you to get in range with no repercussion. I haven't tried them yet but i wonder how long you can hold them...they should explode after a short timer like the locus/av.
AV nades are not getting enough love. If i have to put myself in danger to use the only meaningful AV i can muster without a huge sp commitment, and it takes 8 advanced grenades and it doesn't kill them?? we need to buff av in general, especially in light of the sp shorthandedness that almost everyone is feeling in multiple roles.
I might suggest making easier paths to take down a tank, either buff installation turrets to allow regular people to have a chance at taking down a tank or make it easier to spec into something that meaningfully can take down a tank.vehicles should require team mechanics to be that good, as is they don't...tanks can solo squads of good fps players with few methods for recourse.
Oh and if anyone else wants decent av fits in the off chance a tank wanders 2 close and you can find enough nanohives:
the market lists the aurum varient of av grenades (hacked exo) as being 2k isk...super cheap...obviously a bug. I loaded up 1k to suffice myself, not like I needed them after i figured out 75% of my kills could come from m1's but...there ya go. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:32:00 -
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NOT slap26 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:This game is becoming grenade 514 because it's more reliable than any weapon..hit detection is no problem with m1's. Flux grenade's do 2 much damage and it feels like people can hold them and wait for you to get in range with no repercussion. I haven't tried them yet but i wonder how long you can hold them...they should explode after a short timer like the locus/av.
AV nades are not getting enough love. If i have to put myself in danger to use the only meaningful AV i can muster without a huge sp commitment, and it takes 8 advanced grenades and it doesn't kill them?? we need to buff av in general, especially in light of the sp shorthandedness that almost everyone is feeling in multiple roles.
I might suggest making easier paths to take down a tank, either buff installation turrets to allow regular people to have a chance at taking down a tank or make it easier to spec into something that meaningfully can take down a tank.vehicles should require team mechanics to be that good, as is they don't...tanks can solo squads of good fps players with few methods for recourse.
Oh and if anyone else wants decent av fits in the off chance a tank wanders 2 close and you can find enough nanohives:
the market lists the aurum varient of av grenades (hacked exo) as being 2k isk...super cheap...obviously a bug. I loaded up 1k to suffice myself, not like I needed them after i figured out 75% of my kills could come from m1's but...there ya go. So your using the broken AV grenades that you don't have to put SP into. Then complaining that you can't kill tanks without properly skilling AV. YOU are the reason dust is dieing
Read again reject...I have m1's...meaning I have both nades exo and the hacked.. fit either nades, see if it kills a tank...no go.. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:34:00 -
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gbghg wrote:I facepalmed when I read this, crying that AV bases need a buff so they can kill vehicles people put millions of sp into easily. Just GTFO OP.
Yes because if I put 11 mil sp into my suit I should be able to run by myself and take down hordes of people and should half the team start spawning in specific "kill that guy" fits be able to run away around the map till the match ends or people stop paying attention right!? |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:39:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:This is exactly the reason why the game is getting ******
Go biomass yourself
... express concerns on a general discussion forum and you want to silence it? who'd have thought...let me see what thought inciting answers did you bring to the table..oh wait...you're a scrub...shouldn't have assumed you could contribute... |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:47:00 -
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so in a forum its an insult to have an argument? I know AV guys, I`m a pilot, AV nades do not need a buff I can spend the next 30 minutes giving reasons but I truly don`t want to because I`ve done it to many times and hate repeating myself.[/quote]
Shouper of BHD wrote:[quote=Zatara Rought][quote=Takahiro Kashuken]This is exactly the reason why the game is getting ******
Go biomass yourself
That's an argument?? Pick my argument apart and if it's sound i concede..tell me why I should need more than that many nades to kill a tank...when it has so many options..I have so few. I still have sp left to burn out of my 11 mill..please teach me how i should go about killing tanks? |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:48:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:OP just fails at this time. I used the adv packed nades and it only took 3 to take out a shield tank.
I'll record it next time. maybe you got the one tank nub I haven't seen yet. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:51:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:This game is definitely turning into grenades 514..
Mostly because grenades have a longer range than most weapons now, and I don't know what CCP did but hit detection with guns in this game is awful now. I almost had a scout with a sniper almost melee me to death as I put a clip of my AR into him, a clip of my SMG into him, back to the AR, reload, and then almost an entire second clip of the AR before I could take down the 70 freaking armor his starter fit had... its stupid.
AV nades have clearly seen a vehicle damage nerf... can't really comment yet on balance. It was clear AV was too powerful in Chromosome for sure, and atm we're back to day 1 open beta where tanks drop into ambush and roflstomp everyone with no recourse. Which is certainly frustrating.
Here's to hoping the plasma cannon is worth a damn on the 14th!
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:57:00 -
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Specter RND wrote:As I am a Proto Forger, I have to say you can powerslide off a cliff.
Using your nades wasn't supposed to kill armor that damn easily. If you want to kill vehicles, spec into PROPER AV and not just have side AV weapons. Seriously, you are the reason why Dust is going to the shitter because of your unnecessary squabbling and nagging.
Oh yes I specifically screwed the game up..**** me...so sorry. Opinions should just go somewhere else right? Let's just label a portion of the forums bullshit posts so ccp has a place to put all these stupid things. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:58:00 -
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Anyone have any experience with what i'm talking about on the m1's and core? |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:04:00 -
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NOT slap26 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Specter RND wrote:As I am a Proto Forger, I have to say you can powerslide off a cliff.
Using your nades wasn't supposed to kill armor that damn easily. If you want to kill vehicles, spec into PROPER AV and not just have side AV weapons. Seriously, you are the reason why Dust is going to the shitter because of your unnecessary squabbling and nagging. Oh yes I specifically screwed the game up..**** me...so sorry. Opinions should just go somewhere else right? Let's just label a portion of the forums bullshit posts so ccp has a place to put all these stupid things. There should be a rule against dumb people posting on forums
Cause you wouldn't fall under the category.  |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:12:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:You are just waisting Oxygen, food and supplies. God dammit you are stup7d OP. Really stup7d.
Yes yes..and a few more if you're brain can muster them...in the meantime cause I know you've got so much brainpower to spare..thoughts on revised topic? |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:18:00 -
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NOT slap26 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:NOT slap26 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Specter RND wrote:As I am a Proto Forger, I have to say you can powerslide off a cliff.
Using your nades wasn't supposed to kill armor that damn easily. If you want to kill vehicles, spec into PROPER AV and not just have side AV weapons. Seriously, you are the reason why Dust is going to the shitter because of your unnecessary squabbling and nagging. Oh yes I specifically screwed the game up..**** me...so sorry. Opinions should just go somewhere else right? Let's just label a portion of the forums bullshit posts so ccp has a place to put all these stupid things. There should be a rule against dumb people posting on forums Cause you wouldn't fall under the category. I'm not the one trying to argue that I should be able to easily kill tanks without properly specing AV
You're an idiot. I'm no longer arguing that. I'm reserving further judgement until i can post a video of how many nades it took using proto av grenades to kill a standard tank. Then maybe if i'm still dissatisfied i'll be back. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:22:00 -
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Go to WoT slap... |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:24:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:OP is the defintion of a casual
He wants to destroy a tank with just AV nades so he can put them on his assault suit and carry on
I moved on. |
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