DUST Search - {TRUTH} Release Date Needs To Be Pushed Back and We Need Another Respec.

Travi Zyg wrote:

IRuby Heart wrote:

Travi Zyg wrote:

no to the respec as well. At this point , veteran players with 8-10 mil SP currently should know well enough what skills to put SP into. When i started almost 4 months ago, i dumped so much SP into pointless things and not even core stuff before i got help and figured it all out, but i never looked for a respec handout. Take the time to read carefully and research before pouring SP into whatever. CCP has given plenty of info on the skill tree along with stats with the blog that came out before a few days ago or whatever.

im not trying to be a jerk , i know theres people ...alot of people out there that are way better than me, but i had no problems re speccing all of my SP and getting into a proper enjoyable functional fit. im just not seeing where people are getting lost here with the SP speccing.

I am not asking for a respec because I screwed up my character, I know how the skills work.

I am asking for a respec come the next build where hopefully a lot of things have been fixed and addressed for the better. Where all races have their primary roles available to choose from. Where we can actually play the game and be satisfied with the current mechanics, so we can all start on a fresh slate.

I think theres definetely a potential for that in the far future but for now, its probably just going to be re balancing like woah until everything is working as intended before they even consider another respec of any kind

One thing I will support in terms of respec is a refund on all heavy suit SP when the rest of the races get the hvy suits. I dont run heavy but I would hate to be forced into amaar, just to play my desired style only to find I'd be more comfortable in a minnie hvy a month down the road.

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IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 671	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:15:00 - [1] - Quote Let's be honest with ourselves guys, this build changed a crapload of stuff. Some for the good, most for the worst. Uprising fixed a lot of things that we we complained about. It also screwed up a lot of things that were perfectly fine or better the way they were before. This game isn't ready for Release, hell no it's not ready for release.As much as I hate to say it, aside from the hardcore's interested in Planetary Conquest and the Graphics update, this build isn't worthy enough to be attracting anybody to the game anytime soon. This build isn't a release build. This builds needs to be redubbed as a Beta and a sh!tload of constant feedback, testing and suggestions needs to happen for the next 3-6 months. I'm so disappointed it's not even funny. I pushed Uprisng so HARD during these last 2 months. I've had 10 people download and install the game promising to play when Uprising drops. 1 person is all that managed to say that he actually liked the game despite it's flaws. We have been telling you what needs to be done and you only deliver on the the things can be easily put aside for later, we tell you what needs to be fixed and you change the stuff we found You need to fix CRITICAL ISSUES, not this QQ, Trollbait, Nerf, OP, Bullshite. You don't go Commercial Release or give a Respec on a game that doesn't have all or even half the Classes/Roles for you to choose from yet. Does that not make sense to you!? Do Something about the Kitten matchmaking, for the 10,00th time!!
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 143	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:20:00 - [2] - Quote this thread is new and refreshing... welcome to new eden!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2822	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:21:00 - [3] - Quote WP for pilots please.... It's only been a year....
GoD-NoVa Imperfects Negative-Feedback 288	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:22:00 - [4] - Quote lol matchmaking is fine get a good squad
KatanaPT Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 92	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:25:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: WP for pilots please.... It's only been a year.... Indeed... that was my biggest beef with being a DS pilot back then...nowadays im done with it.
Aisha Ctarl The Vanguardians Orion Empire 21	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:25:00 - [6] - Quote No to the respec.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 671	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:25:00 - [7] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: lol matchmaking is fine get a good squad Fine for you and me who have been playing since early open beta, know the game in and out and have 8+ million SP, not fine for everyone else.
Lightning xVx G I A N T EoN. 51	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:26:00 - [8] - Quote I hate to admit it but after running some games last night I was kind of unsatisfied with certain skills and I think they should give a respec option for the 14th for players (not money or aurum just skill respec) if you were unsatisfied with skills you selected. It feels almost like a practice run instead of a "full release".
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 671	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:26:00 - [9] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: No to the respec. Why? Be constructive please.
Zlocha Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:27:00 - [10] - Quote U are dumb. What u think, u need to have every single suit and veichle ingeame? NO!!! Skill for what u have atm than again skill for smth u like when it comes out. Take advantage of what u skilled for and adapt. Every suit is not and should not be viable for everything. Some will be viable for more some for less. If u skilled for a heavy suit, take advantage of its EHP, be a shield to the dmg dealers, have a logi rep u. Fuccckin noobs. Who let all these whiny sissies in New Eden. In EVE in every single patch meta game changed and we had to adapt. Sometimes our ships got plethora of things to do smth u were a niche. HTFU ppl

IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 671	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:28:00 - [11] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: I hate to admit it but after running some games last night I was kind of unsatisfied with certain skills and I think they should give a respec option for the 14th for players (not money or aurum just skill respec) if you were unsatisfied with skills you selected. It feels almost like a practice run instead of a "full release". I'm not even talking about a respec on the 14th, it wouldn't hurt if they did but I'm talking way down the line when we get our next build and only if it's worthy enough for commercial release. Right now I feel like this build should be a Test run like you said, we should be providing feedback and testing out new features, weapons, mechanics while CCP addresses the Critical aspects of the game and adds in the rest of the Racial Suits. it's not fair that you are forced to skill into something because CCP decided not put your suit in the current build.
GoD-NoVa Imperfects Negative-Feedback 288	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:31:00 - [12] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: lol matchmaking is fine get a good squad Fine for you and me who have been playing since early open beta, know the game in and out and have 8+ million SP, not fine for everyone else. oh well thats their fault not mine, they could have been playing but noo they wanted to wait for release too bad
Panther Alpha WarRavens Orion Empire 152	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:31:00 - [13] - Quote Do you realize that when "Planetary Conquest" kicks in, the game will feel completely different? OR I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THIS FORUM THAT CAN SEE THAT
Travi Zyg G I A N T EoN. 57	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:33:00 - [14] - Quote no to the respec as well. At this point , veteran players with 8-10 mil SP currently should know well enough what skills to put SP into. When i started almost 4 months ago, i dumped so much SP into pointless things and not even core stuff before i got help and figured it all out, but i never looked for a respec handout. Take the time to read carefully and research before pouring SP into whatever. CCP has given plenty of info on the skill tree along with stats with the blog that came out before a few days ago or whatever. im not trying to be a jerk , i know theres people ...alot of people out there that are way better than me, but i had no problems re speccing all of my SP and getting into a proper enjoyable functional fit. im just not seeing where people are getting lost here with the SP speccing.
steadyhand amarr The Red Apple 475	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:34:00 - [15] - Quote Got to agree with nova. Dead easy to pull together a half decent squad now and nearly every match I played was quite close. The two games I got rolled were down to very good well gear team members and due to the nature of the game u can't matchmake that
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 671	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:40:00 - [16] - Quote Travi Zyg wrote: no to the respec as well. At this point , veteran players with 8-10 mil SP currently should know well enough what skills to put SP into. When i started almost 4 months ago, i dumped so much SP into pointless things and not even core stuff before i got help and figured it all out, but i never looked for a respec handout. Take the time to read carefully and research before pouring SP into whatever. CCP has given plenty of info on the skill tree along with stats with the blog that came out before a few days ago or whatever. im not trying to be a jerk , i know theres people ...alot of people out there that are way better than me, but i had no problems re speccing all of my SP and getting into a proper enjoyable functional fit. im just not seeing where people are getting lost here with the SP speccing. I am not asking for a respec because I screwed up my character, I know how the skills work. I am asking for a respec come the next build where hopefully a lot of things have been fixed and addressed for the better. Where all races have their primary roles available to choose from. Where we can actually play the game and be satisfied with the current mechanics, so we can all start on a fresh slate.
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 671	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:46:00 - [17] - Quote GoD-NoVa wrote: IRuby Heart wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: lol matchmaking is fine get a good squad Fine for you and me who have been playing since early open beta, know the game in and out and have 8+ million SP, not fine for everyone else. oh well thats their fault not mine, they could have been playing but noo they wanted to wait for release too bad What's your problem? I'm not asking you to donate your SP to new players or to take your SP away. All I'm asking is for a matchmaking system to be put in place that separates guys like us from guys who've just picked up the game, and everything in between.
Travi Zyg G I A N T EoN. 58	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:46:00 - [18] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Travi Zyg wrote: no to the respec as well. At this point , veteran players with 8-10 mil SP currently should know well enough what skills to put SP into. When i started almost 4 months ago, i dumped so much SP into pointless things and not even core stuff before i got help and figured it all out, but i never looked for a respec handout. Take the time to read carefully and research before pouring SP into whatever. CCP has given plenty of info on the skill tree along with stats with the blog that came out before a few days ago or whatever. im not trying to be a jerk , i know theres people ...alot of people out there that are way better than me, but i had no problems re speccing all of my SP and getting into a proper enjoyable functional fit. im just not seeing where people are getting lost here with the SP speccing. I am not asking for a respec because I screwed up my character, I know how the skills work. I am asking for a respec come the next build where hopefully a lot of things have been fixed and addressed for the better. Where all races have their primary roles available to choose from. Where we can actually play the game and be satisfied with the current mechanics, so we can all start on a fresh slate. I think theres definetely a potential for that in the far future but for now, its probably just going to be re balancing like woah until everything is working as intended before they even consider another respec of any kind One thing I will support in terms of respec is a refund on all heavy suit SP when the rest of the races get the hvy suits. I dont run heavy but I would hate to be forced into amaar, just to play my desired style only to find I'd be more comfortable in a minnie hvy a month down the road.
Panther Alpha WarRavens Orion Empire 152	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:48:00 - [19] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: IRuby Heart wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: lol matchmaking is fine get a good squad Fine for you and me who have been playing since early open beta, know the game in and out and have 8+ million SP, not fine for everyone else. oh well thats their fault not mine, they could have been playing but noo they wanted to wait for release too bad What's your problem? I'm not asking you to donate your SP to new players or to take your SP away. All I'm asking is for a matchmaking system to be put in place that separates guys like us from guys who've just picked up the game, and everything in between. You make it sound as if you like facing newbies. OK.... one more time, for luck. ; Do you realize that when "Planetary Conquest" kicks in, the game will feel completely different? OR I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THIS FORUM THAT CAN SEE THAT
IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 671	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:50:00 - [20] - Quote Travi Zyg wrote: IRuby Heart wrote: Travi Zyg wrote: no to the respec as well. At this point , veteran players with 8-10 mil SP currently should know well enough what skills to put SP into. When i started almost 4 months ago, i dumped so much SP into pointless things and not even core stuff before i got help and figured it all out, but i never looked for a respec handout. Take the time to read carefully and research before pouring SP into whatever. CCP has given plenty of info on the skill tree along with stats with the blog that came out before a few days ago or whatever. im not trying to be a jerk , i know theres people ...alot of people out there that are way better than me, but i had no problems re speccing all of my SP and getting into a proper enjoyable functional fit. im just not seeing where people are getting lost here with the SP speccing. I am not asking for a respec because I screwed up my character, I know how the skills work. I am asking for a respec come the next build where hopefully a lot of things have been fixed and addressed for the better. Where all races have their primary roles available to choose from. Where we can actually play the game and be satisfied with the current mechanics, so we can all start on a fresh slate. I think theres definetely a potential for that in the far future but for now, its probably just going to be re balancing like woah until everything is working as intended before they even consider another respec of any kind One thing I will support in terms of respec is a refund on all heavy suit SP when the rest of the races get the hvy suits. I dont run heavy but I would hate to be forced into amaar, just to play my desired style only to find I'd be more comfortable in a minnie hvy a month down the road. The problem with that is, if you do it only specifically for the heavy it's still not fair. I could be a heavy player that doesn't like Amarr and without any other options you decided to go assault this build. All Heavy suits come out 3 months from now and without any previous warning by CCP the respec is only issued to those who went with the Amarr Heavy suit. Now your pissed and you quit.

IRuby Heart DIOS EX. 671	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:51:00 - [21] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: IRuby Heart wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: IRuby Heart wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: lol matchmaking is fine get a good squad Fine for you and me who have been playing since early open beta, know the game in and out and have 8+ million SP, not fine for everyone else. oh well thats their fault not mine, they could have been playing but noo they wanted to wait for release too bad What's your problem? I'm not asking you to donate your SP to new players or to take your SP away. All I'm asking is for a matchmaking system to be put in place that separates guys like us from guys who've just picked up the game, and everything in between. You make it sound as if you like facing newbies. OK.... one more time, for luck. ; Do you realize that when "Planetary Conquest" kicks in, the game will feel completely different? OR I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THIS FORUM THAT CAN SEE THAT Can you explain how Planetary Conquest is going to change everything by how you put it?
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 78	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:51:00 - [22] - Quote There is really no respec needed unless CCP decides to un nerf the nerfed. . Because, the wise players did the math before spending all their SP, of course there are a few lvls of skills I wish I could of grabbed but 11m SP only goes so far these days... As long as they fix the aiming mechanics and maybe improve a few range nerfs, ill still be gaining SP to get those skills I couldn't afford. .. The argument can't be made with new players in mind if that was the case why even have SP progression, like I and others have said its not our fault new players just now want to get on board... Its the job of CCP to try to make it a fair and enjoyable game for newcomers through match making or gear selection..
Panther Alpha WarRavens Orion Empire 152	Posted - 2013.05.07 14:56:00 - [23] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: OK.... one more time, for luck. ; Do you realize that when "Planetary Conquest" kicks in, the game will feel completely different? OR I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THIS FORUM THAT CAN SEE THAT Can you explain how Planetary Conquest is going to change everything by how you put it? http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/05/the-launch-of-planetary-conquest/
JX1 Goonfeet 3	Posted - 2013.05.07 15:02:00 - [24] - Quote A big improval that I would appreciate would be fixing the matchmaking: 100% corpsquad premades VS 100% randoms queuing up solo
2100 Angels The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2013.05.07 15:03:00 - [25] - Quote I'm currently wallowing in self pity about accidentally upgrading weaponry to 5, not realising that having the skill at 5 is now pointless and inadvertently wasting ~480k SP that was allocated for shield skills :( So due to this bad decision, I wholeheartedly agree with the respec portion of your post. The rest I'm fairly unconcerned about.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 134	Posted - 2013.05.07 15:12:00 - [26] - Quote I'm confused, you say there are so many critical issues but the only one you mention is match making. To me all the complaints sound more like rapid-reactions to being so used to how the last build worked and getting agitated by every little difference. Give it some more time, I'm more interested in what people have to say a week or 2 from now.
TheBlob95 B GamersForChrist 5	Posted - 2013.05.07 15:18:00 - [27] - Quote IRuby Heart wrote: GoD-NoVa wrote: lol matchmaking is fine get a good squad Fine for you and me who have been playing since early open beta, know the game in and out and have 8+ million SP, not fine for everyone else. Mercenary Ambush 10 v 10, No Squads?
Mr Gloo Gloo What The French CRONOS. 66	Posted - 2013.05.07 15:32:00 - [28] - Quote The game is not fun anymore, and Uprising brought a lots of bug. I've made a list : - Injector symbol doesn't show up every time, even when the guy WANT to be revive, calling for help insanly on X - Better wheel ? What a joke (equipment and vehicule modules) - Large turrets are down - mic issues are back !!! I love so much Morse - Heavy are useless - heavy useless = logi useless = where is the RPG ? - the logi remote his heavy armor --> both spot on radar - squad orders are down at long range (impossible on the map) - nova knife are dawn OP - ambush spawns are worst than ever - MD nerf too high --> Logi/MD role is almost down (or fix thoose damn flux) - no WP for DS pilots Do I keep going ? A huge disappointment for me... Graphics wonderful, skill tree beautiful,


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