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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:07:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, the sentiment is not going unnoted. I have sent this thread and other similar ones off to people. Hopefully we can get a more detailed breakdown of stuff for you, both in the near and distant future. If you guys would have released a detailed Dev blog on the respec in early April like you'd talked about, we would have been doing all this complaining about a spreadsheet instead of your game. The obvious stuff could have been fixed or at least we would have mentioned the issues we saw coming.
Not to pile on, but it's something to think about in the future.
The video on uprising gameplay from the french dude showed a max skilled character running around. It got me wondering if you guys do all of your testing with default characters maxed out. It's easy to see why there are so many issues if that is the case.
Not actually skilling a player up from our point of view could have solved some of these problems as well.
I'm really not trying to be condescending. I think the level of rage got pretty high yesterday when it seemed like you guys were locked in an underground bunker radio silent. It's really good to see you guys commenting on these things.
I really, really hope that you guys put the weapons back the way they were. The sharpshooter (range) skill being taken away probably solved a majority of the OP complaints. I don't see how you can weigh the positives and negatives of your rebalance if you change everything at once.
Anyway, thanks for commenting!
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 16:52:00 -
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NIIKIA wrote:Scramble Scrub wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, the sentiment is not going unnoted. I have sent this thread and other similar ones off to people. Hopefully we can get a more detailed breakdown of stuff for you, both in the near and distant future. Bull You will do nothing. You have scammed us, lied to us, stolen from us, and you expect a paragraph like that will actually revive the faith we had in you guys? Haha no. At least he took the time to say something man. I'm giving ccp til the end of the month to at least have plans to fix what they have broken then I'm gone No doubt, I'm not going to bash the guy who had the balls to come face the furry in these forums.
I'm in the same boat on the fixes. They need to do this in a hurry. |
Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:28:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Hey guys, the sentiment is not going unnoted. I have sent this thread and other similar ones off to people. Hopefully we can get a more detailed breakdown of stuff for you, both in the near and distant future. I really appreciate that. The last thing we need is for us to devolve into a us vs. them situation. I have confidence that CCP and the greater community can work together. I'm not going to sugar coat it though. I am DEEPLY concerned with where we are right now. It's time for all of us to push up our sleeves and get our hands dirty.
It's time for them to reach out to somebody. The complaints are beyond being mad about your OP weapon being nerfed.
I'm hoping they surprise me. |
Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:43:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Kain sorry but you are wrong. The community will never be able to balance anything because they want what they spec into to be the best so they cry for nerfs on all the other things. The only thing the community should do is play the game and point out bugs. The right way to balance a game is to have a couple of players who are specialists in their field. But Zitro how does that balance anything? Ok slowpoke, have tank guy and av guy argue till they find balance. Was that so hard?
People who are real specialist in their field out of the 4,500 players need to tell the other 4,494 players to just quit thing to "balance" things I would love to get some groups of role experts together, but the community can help and deserves to have all the cards on the table. Trying to concentrate balance only to experts would be just as bad as only leaving it to the CPM. We need an all of the above strategy. The community deserves nothing! This game isn't charity, which you CPM members are good with but that doesn't help at understanding a console game, let alone a FPS. They tried balancing from the lower end of the player base why not try and balance it for a more competitive play style than carebear city. +1 |
Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:15:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:My first big question; is to those who were at fanfest; was Uprising THIS AWFUL ?????????
As from the tourny we all watched, gameplay looked much better, smoother and everything. So, CCP, WTF DID YOU DO !!!!!
At this point, i'd say scrap all of Uprising and give us Chromo back for another 1-3 months till you figure out how to put out an adequate new build. Uprising has been the worst build by far no comparison (as ive been here since early Replication build); and there isn't anything to give this build a gleam of hope to get better.
Lets look at the pos & neg :
POS: +6 man squads +no UVTs +game looks graphically a bit nicer
Neg: -game is ISK sink -game is SP sink -movement is sluggish -weapons are worthless -SP gain is atrocious -ambush isn't worth playing -skirmish isn't worth playing -starting players are F"d beyond any help -skilling into anything of need is a massive SP sink (there is grind, then there is worthless WTF are you thinking) -Nanohives are worthless till lv4 or 5 -spawn system is still pathetic -Still no balance b/t suits, weapons, vehicles; or anything
Should i keep going? Seriously CCP, did you hand off Uprising to a bunch of people with Down syndrome to make and test (as your in house testing group should be FIRED ASAP). There isn't anything remotely acceptable that was given to us. I know i may get banned for this; but CCP, you need a wakeup call from the community and not have anything sugarcoated.
I do give credit to CCP Eterne for making a post; but hopefully something comes of it; otherwise see player counts drop even more then they have the last few months. I go through phases right now. When I read this I want to yell F yeah and break my keyboard at work. But then I go through phases where I try to remain calm and hope they just have to tweak a few things.
One thing is for certain. As a 34 year old man, I'll never get so emotionally invested in a video game. However I've invested enough real money in this game that I'll be here for a while out of principle.
The CPU/PG thing for vehicles makes me think they are just too far off. How would something like this not get noticed? Did not one single tester try and fit a vehicle and play a match? I think they honestly just have maxed out everything and play around with stuff. There is no way that anybody created a character and started from scratch. Not with what we downloaded yesterday. |
Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2013.05.07 22:00:00 -
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Ops Fox wrote:While no Dev will actually take the time to read this far into a "You screwed up again CCP" thread. I got to voice my support for showing us stat changes before hand as well as being more open. The only time I see a dev blog is when they are talking about some event or "introducing" a person they decided to represent the entire community. CCP given very little attention to the community or feedback to the community on updates and alot of people our tired of that.
There is no point in making a list of while this build sucks as bad as the last. CCP has failed two other times during beta even after thousands of people told them what was messed up. combined with their slow update speed during the beta it was pretty clear they are not listening to us, so I might as well not even say anything. When the game fails they'll wonder why and this right here is the key.
As unhappy as this build has made me, it doesn't compare to the 15,000 times that I refreshed the Announcement forum to see if they finally released the respec/skill DEV blog. I tried to get into the IRC today and just stopped. Why would they choose to use that crap when they can use the forums? At this point I think the last thing on their minds should be security. I don't think any game companies are trying to steal their ideas. |
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