DUST Search - Can we all please give Uprising a week?

howard sanchez wrote:

NeoWraith Acedia wrote:

No, they have 1 week to get this ready for commercial release, now's not the time to be giving them pats on the back. Especially with how much stuff they need to fix/improve. Maybe we're being hard on them, but it's for their own good. HTFU like they say.

Or maybe CCP has a different vision of how thier MMOFPS is going to scale than you do.

For a lot of players new to DUST this is also thier first exposure to a CCP game.

But, a lot of others have played EVE. And a lot of those have played EVE for years...and years.

And if you are asking yourself,"Self, why would anyone grind That long for an endgame?", then the train has already left the station.

It's not about how things were yesterday. It's about how they are for you vs the other guy. We are all on the same footing. This is the new footing.

CCP are The Industry Leader in how to design a massive sandbox and grow it longer and farther than anyone.

It's about scale. You don't know about balance in Uprising because you haven't tested it yet. And by 'tested' i don't mean read about, or thought about or even tried. I mean tested meticulously and repeatedly and objectively.

And if you're saying to yourself,"Self, this kitten right here is crazy cuz we been posting all day about the imbalance and shznt", you've missed another train. Stop balancing Uprising vs Chromosone or what yesterdays build was.

If it takes you 7 years to become the best player you can be then it takes that other guy the exact same time.

And range! If the other guys gun shoots as far as yours (stop thinking of yesterday's gun!), that is balance.

Now use the sand in the box and test for an advantage where you can find it.

Bah, you won't get it.

It takes years

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DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 178	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:04:00 - [1] - Quote People are complaining about A LOT of things right now. Unless they are bugs & glitches, I think we should withhold judgment until we have at least one week to get acquainted.
Summer-Wolf Planetary Response Organisation 8	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:06:00 - [2] - Quote Except for the fact that the game is "officially" released next week
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 399	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:07:00 - [3] - Quote Everyone like this man!!! Please reserve your caffeinated, ADHD inspired, fast twitch, hormonally driven teenage angst for when you all have to harden up and adapt for planetary conquest.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 396	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:10:00 - [4] - Quote Good luck, people were complaining about it before they even played it.
MacGoogles iS-me-name ThatsHott 6	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:12:00 - [5] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Good luck, people were complaining about it before they even played it. Well i love the new uprising build, Just not a fan of the whole spending 900k ea. dropsuit class, (light,med,heavy)
boba's fetta Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers 35	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:14:00 - [6] - Quote ofc things arnt great today. everyone is downloading the update. what excalty did everyone expect?
Tiberion Deci Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 100	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:15:00 - [7] - Quote +1for positivity
Nstomper The Sangheli 314	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:15:00 - [8] - Quote There will always be complainers
mongahu Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:15:00 - [9] - Quote Well release is next week so they kinda need ti fix it now. And to be honest I think the range **** up must be a glitch because no serious fps has a max effective range of its standard firearm of less than 50m. Clearly glitch is a glitch. Has to be.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 188	Posted - 2013.05.07 01:06:00 - [10] - Quote I am the Oprah of these forums, as such, my next action is Clear: "Likes! Likes for Everyone!(who stayed positive)"

NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 165	Posted - 2013.05.07 01:11:00 - [11] - Quote No, they have 1 week to get this ready for commercial release, now's not the time to be giving them pats on the back. Especially with how much stuff they need to fix/improve. Maybe we're being hard on them, but it's for their own good. HTFU like they say.
Kazio De Vihura Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 12	Posted - 2013.05.07 01:13:00 - [12] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: People are complaining about A LOT of things right now. Unless they are bugs & glitches, I think we should withhold judgment until we have at least one week to get acquainted. No can't play mouse is broken
howard sanchez Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 518	Posted - 2013.05.07 01:28:00 - [13] - Quote NeoWraith Acedia wrote: No, they have 1 week to get this ready for commercial release, now's not the time to be giving them pats on the back. Especially with how much stuff they need to fix/improve. Maybe we're being hard on them, but it's for their own good. HTFU like they say. Or maybe CCP has a different vision of how thier MMOFPS is going to scale than you do. For a lot of players new to DUST this is also thier first exposure to a CCP game. But, a lot of others have played EVE. And a lot of those have played EVE for years...and years. And if you are asking yourself,"Self, why would anyone grind That long for an endgame?", then the train has already left the station. It's not about how things were yesterday. It's about how they are for you vs the other guy. We are all on the same footing. This is the new footing. CCP are The Industry Leader in how to design a massive sandbox and grow it longer and farther than anyone. It's about scale. You don't know about balance in Uprising because you haven't tested it yet. And by 'tested' i don't mean read about, or thought about or even tried. I mean tested meticulously and repeatedly and objectively. And if you're saying to yourself,"Self, this kitten right here is crazy cuz we been posting all day about the imbalance and shznt", you've missed another train. Stop balancing Uprising vs Chromosone or what yesterdays build was. If it takes you 7 years to become the best player you can be then it takes that other guy the exact same time. And range! If the other guys gun shoots as far as yours (stop thinking of yesterday's gun!), that is balance. Now use the sand in the box and test for an advantage where you can find it. Bah, you won't get it. It takes years
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 166	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:20:00 - [14] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: NeoWraith Acedia wrote: No, they have 1 week to get this ready for commercial release, now's not the time to be giving them pats on the back. Especially with how much stuff they need to fix/improve. Maybe we're being hard on them, but it's for their own good. HTFU like they say. Or maybe CCP has a different vision of how thier MMOFPS is going to scale than you do. For a lot of players new to DUST this is also thier first exposure to a CCP game. But, a lot of others have played EVE. And a lot of those have played EVE for years...and years. And if you are asking yourself,"Self, why would anyone grind That long for an endgame?", then the train has already left the station. It's not about how things were yesterday. It's about how they are for you vs the other guy. We are all on the same footing. This is the new footing. CCP are The Industry Leader in how to design a massive sandbox and grow it longer and farther than anyone. It's about scale. You don't know about balance in Uprising because you haven't tested it yet. And by 'tested' i don't mean read about, or thought about or even tried. I mean tested meticulously and repeatedly and objectively. And if you're saying to yourself,"Self, this kitten right here is crazy cuz we been posting all day about the imbalance and shznt", you've missed another train. Stop balancing Uprising vs Chromosone or what yesterdays build was. If it takes you 7 years to become the best player you can be then it takes that other guy the exact same time. And range! If the other guys gun shoots as far as yours (stop thinking of yesterday's gun!), that is balance. Now use the sand in the box and test for an advantage where you can find it. Bah, you won't get it. It takes years Ughh... that had nothing to do with the grind, which while not the best, is something I can put up. Aiming has gotten worse Balance is practically non-existent, weapon wise or between the classes The controls feel even clunkier than they did before, especially that damn weapon/equipment wheel Really, the only major improvement I see here is in the graphics department, but somehow CCP managed to break everything they had built before. Definitely not a game I would say is ready for CR. CCP is either really confident in this build, and/or delusional, and someone has to break the news to them instead of everyone just going "It'll all work out in the end"
Bethhy Not Guilty EoN. 3	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:25:00 - [15] - Quote All the money we poored into the Aurum store and fanfest is about to be wasted in a week, IF WE DON'T GET ON THEM. I personally would rather not have another game I don't feel like playing on ps3 when there is a episode of pawnstars.
SSBBW Amber Church of the Unforgiven 30	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:32:00 - [16] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Or maybe CCP has a different vision of how thier MMOFPS is going to scale than you do. For a lot of players new to DUST this is also thier first exposure to a CCP game. But, a lot of others have played EVE. And a lot of those have played EVE for years...and years. And if you are asking yourself,"Self, why would anyone grind That long for an endgame?", then the train has already left the station. It's not about how things were yesterday. It's about how they are for you vs the other guy. We are all on the same footing. This is the new footing. CCP are The Industry Leader in how to design a massive sandbox and grow it longer and farther than anyone. It's about scale. You don't know about balance in Uprising because you haven't tested it yet. And by 'tested' i don't mean read about, or thought about or even tried. I mean tested meticulously and repeatedly and objectively. And if you're saying to yourself,"Self, this kitten right here is crazy cuz we been posting all day about the imbalance and shznt", you've missed another train. Stop balancing Uprising vs Chromosone or what yesterdays build was. If it takes you 7 years to become the best player you can be then it takes that other guy the exact same time. And range! If the other guys gun shoots as far as yours (stop thinking of yesterday's gun!), that is balance. Now use the sand in the box and test for an advantage where you can find it. Bah, you won't get it. It takes years Have you even tried to roll a new class? Any class, it doesn't matter. Even with 500K SP to start with, there is not enough SP to train into anything meaningful. I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but with no "starter" skills to get you going, a new player will say "Screw this." in a heartbeat. I don't give a damn how many people say, "Militia gear can take down proto gear." The fact is, that is not the norm and half those morons who say that are actually getting the kill after someone else did all the work taking down shields and armor. Who cares if it take 7 years for everyone to become the best they can be? Since you brought up range, let's discuss it, not all weapons have the same range. If you think otherwise, I suggest you pick up a HMG and watch those AR toting Logi's gag f* your throat from 50M out while you can't hit anything reliably further than 10M out. Otherwise I suggest that you STFU you scrub. No one likes an a kissing fanboi whose too dumb to know WTF he is talking about.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2723	Posted - 2013.05.07 02:37:00 - [17] - Quote No matter how long I wait, the inability to turn in less than 90 degree increments to aim at someone 2m in front of me isn't going to look like a "feature". No matter how long I wait, acceleration on mouse turning is never going to be a good idea. No matter how long I wait, I shouldn't be able to run face first at a Heavy then stand there unloading with my Shotgun, and survive IN A SCOUT SUIT. There are very real issues that are very apparent and are not going to be resolved by just taking time and "getting used to" the changes. There are some things we need to adapt to - Laser ironsights, lack of zoom on Swarm Launchers, sensitivity settings that actually work - but that doesn't mean EVERY problem is going to get better with time.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 71	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:03:00 - [18] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Good luck, people were complaining about it before they even played it. So, vehicle turret prices being doubled is nothing to complain about?
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 109	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:23:00 - [19] - Quote As a tanker I can honestly say that I am enjoying the new build. Yes, there are several bugs that need to be fixed, my Madrugar is crippled powergrid wise until they fix the engineering skill, and my blaster turrets won't fire up or down more than a few feet. But these are all bugs, at least I hope the turret one is a bug. Oh, the update also broke my mouse and mod selection, but I can adapt until it gets fixed. Plus am kind of confused as to why we don't have 24-24 pub matches yet, but that might be coming on the 14th. What I really like about this build is the fact that I now have NO infantry skills at all, just vehicle ones, looks so much nicer in the skill list window. I kind of like the new graphics, if nothing more than being something different. I'm still relearning how to play this game, but so far am having a good time. I am more than happy to give CCP a little time to fix some of these bugs, I hope they get them fixed as fast as possible, but over all I am hopeful that this build could very well end up being a great build.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 202	Posted - 2013.05.07 09:51:00 - [20] - Quote Casius Hakoke wrote: As a tanker I can honestly say that I am enjoying the new build. Yes, there are several bugs that need to be fixed, my Madrugar is crippled powergrid wise until they fix the engineering skill, and my blaster turrets won't fire up or down more than a few feet. But these are all bugs, at least I hope the turret one is a bug. Oh, the update also broke my mouse and mod selection, but I can adapt until it gets fixed. Plus am kind of confused as to why we don't have 24-24 pub matches yet, but that might be coming on the 14th. What I really like about this build is the fact that I now have NO infantry skills at all, just vehicle ones, looks so much nicer in the skill list window. I kind of like the new graphics, if nothing more than being something different. I'm still relearning how to play this game, but so far am having a good time. I am more than happy to give CCP a little time to fix some of these bugs, I hope they get them fixed as fast as possible, but over all I am hopeful that this build could very well end up being a great build. Take head and note this comment of a moved player. I appeal to your sensibilities. If all say heavy is broken, assault is broken, logi is broken, AV is broken, vehicles are broken. Then are we not all punished? Can we not all adapt? It is obvious that CCP wanted the game to be more challenging for all, they have succeeded. People though, seem to observe only the bad that their class gained; most do not consider how their enemies have been crippled. Let us all take the time to learn.

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 1215	Posted - 2013.05.07 10:07:00 - [21] - Quote Some things are good but others are bad and they need to be brought to light
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits 228	Posted - 2013.05.10 01:46:00 - [22] - Quote I told you!
Frontline Medic On-Sight-Response 6	Posted - 2013.05.10 01:53:00 - [23] - Quote othet then the new injection control im likeing the new dust,had to spend more sp then wanted to get into my logi bp but whatever,I dont try and be a oneman army I stick behind team and cover flank cus as a logi im NOT a onemanarmy,seems thats most of the QQing going on,you have to play your role and squad up.
Al Lopestes Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:25:00 - [24] - Quote NeoWraith Acedia wrote: No, they have 1 week to get this ready for commercial release, now's not the time to be giving them pats on the back. Especially with how much stuff they need to fix/improve. Maybe we're being hard on them, but it's for their own good. HTFU like they say. This. I am going to give a example to LittleBigPlanet's Create Tool so i got a idea to improve a level to add features to my level, it took me at least 1day/1week's to add, test or anything. after feeling like my updated level is ready to be release. i republish it and done. but i feel like checking again. later i spot glitches. so i go back to the Moon and fix it. took me at least few minutes. If this level of my is popular enough but i feel like started making a change to my level based to feedback. but this would take me at least 1 month of it. after finished. i get a lot of negative feedback for some reason because of changes leading me to make a statement. then i would lose likes to my level because of it. so what do i do next? Can i bring back what there used to love or by fixing and changing to make it equal to the original version? (ran out of time)
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 226	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:30:00 - [25] - Quote This is the first game ive ever played that literally gets me pissed, not because im dying or how im dying, but because of how difficult it is to kill people in general. The controls were ruined, and the guns were over nurfed. I really have no idea how waiting a week will change that. This isn't like the chromosome build where it took a day to figure out the new sensitivity settings, and with enough specialization you could make almost any gun "work", this build..... this build renders the Shotgun, and Tact AR the only two guns that are effective and even then there very tricky to make work..... CCP better figure something out, because i don't know how much longer I can deal with this.
Ordo Malachai Bragian Order Amarr Empire 25	Posted - 2013.05.10 02:38:00 - [26] - Quote I'm generally enjoying this build despite some minor niggles with shotguns and environment interaction. I don't use heavies so i'm not really sure what all the angst is there - they certainly seem to have no problems wasting me in a Assault suit 90% of them time. HMG's are still like miniguns to go up against, and Forge Guns are as overpowered as ever. Glitches with the terrain are really the big one imo. Now we just need more content


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