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Leovarian L Lavitz
Murder Taxi Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:57:00 -
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NOOOOOOOOO
Why nerf it? WHY?
all of five people can go above 19 kills in a match with the darned* thing, but ARs consistantly post up 30+ kills. WHY NERF? |
Sontie
Ill Omens
EoN.
262
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:03:00 -
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It's a support weapon, it's never supposed to post the numbers an AR does.
At the same time, I ran MD and was always top 3... I'm to scared to even look right now. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
272
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:04:00 -
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They nerfed it? Why? |
Kay High
The Lions Guard
100
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:12:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:They nerfed it? Why?
Because AR users didn't like AOE damage so they whined and complained about MD till CCP nerfed the AOE to nothing. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
League of Infamy
343
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:13:00 -
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Seems as though the primarily-AR users are being blamed for quite a few of the nerfs these days..... |
Sontie
Ill Omens
EoN.
262
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:16:00 -
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everything got nerfed all to hell. I think they wanted to make this game have a longer to live time... so they massively decreased ranges and dmg and buffed ehp |
Thog A Kuma
Planetary Response Organisation
69
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:36:00 -
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I'm having real trouble figuring out where my shots are landing.
I know my blast radius got smaller (I don't like it but oh well) but I am having a hell of a time figuring out how to aim this thing.
Did my smoke tracer get lighter?
I'm pretty sure something changed with my blast effect.
I definitely do not like that when I hit an opponent his body often disappears so I am left wondering if he is circling around me, or if he ran away. (the 50 WP notice is often washed out on the screen)
Played about 5 games and I just had to quit out of frustration.
Anyone of you regular MD guys have some hints? |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
146
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:38:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:NOOOOOOOOO
Why nerf it? WHY?
all of five people can go above 19 kills in a match with the darned* thing, but ARs consistantly post up 30+ kills. WHY NERF?
They cut the freedom splash damage in half.
The core breach is terrible. I mean terrible. You can't kill yourself with it. |
Thor Odinson42
Planetary Response Organization
146
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:40:00 -
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Thog A Kuma wrote:I'm having real trouble figuring out where my shots are landing.
I know my blast radius got smaller (I don't like it but oh well) but I am having a hell of a time figuring out how to aim this thing.
Did my smoke tracer get lighter?
I'm pretty sure something changed with my blast effect.
Played about 5 games and I just had to quit out of frustration.
Anyone of you regular MD guys have some hints?
I have been doing well with the freedom, but the splash damage nerf is crazy.
I didn't see a big problem with it before.
They keep the laser mostly the same and slash my MD in half???? |
Thog A Kuma
Planetary Response Organisation
69
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:45:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Thog A Kuma wrote:I'm having real trouble figuring out where my shots are landing.
I know my blast radius got smaller (I don't like it but oh well) but I am having a hell of a time figuring out how to aim this thing.
Did my smoke tracer get lighter?
I'm pretty sure something changed with my blast effect.
Played about 5 games and I just had to quit out of frustration.
Anyone of you regular MD guys have some hints?
I have been doing well with the freedom, but the splash damage nerf is crazy. I didn't see a big problem with it before. They keep the laser mostly the same and slash my MD in half????
Freedom is Proto level, a huge # of us are in low level suits, Heaven help the MD user when average suit on the field can have 3 extenders and a modulator..but i have ISK to burn I'll give Freedom a chance lol
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IR Scifi
Silver Talon Corporation
23
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:54:00 -
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I was afraid I was the only one noticing this. Previous build the MD was just about where it needed to be. Not it's back feeling like I'm lobbing spitwads at the enemy. |
Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
81
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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:11:00 -
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Thog A Kuma wrote:I'm having real trouble figuring out where my shots are landing.
I know my blast radius got smaller (I don't like it but oh well) but I am having a hell of a time figuring out how to aim this thing.
Did my smoke tracer get lighter?
I'm pretty sure something changed with my blast effect.
I definitely do not like that when I hit an opponent his body often disappears so I am left wondering if he is circling around me, or if he ran away. (the 50 WP notice is often washed out on the screen)
Played about 5 games and I just had to quit out of frustration.
Anyone of you regular MD guys have some hints?
You aren't the only one, and the bluish tinted? "dome" I see on impact can't be the splash radius. I am putting rounds damn near dead on people at midrange and they are laughing at me (before killing me with a quick burst from their AR) and at long range I have no idea if I am hitting or what. Residual smoke screen is gone. I was a fool and went level 5 operation too. I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling the MD pain.
@Polish Hammer AR users are getting blamed because they have seen the least amount of nerf. Laser got zoom nerf, HMG apparently got nerfed a great deal, and right now MD feels really nerfed.
I'm trying to stick with it and really test it out, but I'm thankful stats don't seem to be counting at the moment for any game type. |
Tidaen
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
60
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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:24:00 -
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Same issue here. Having a very difficult time gauging where my shots are landing. The lack of smoke and explosive effects really take away from its effectiveness. Especially on a desert map with the shots blending in perfectly with the bright sand.
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Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2013.05.07 02:24:00 -
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I went Operation 5 was well. Don't regret it, but damn is it strange using this thing now. No mistake now, Assault is the best hands down, EXO and Freedom are barely acceptable with 4m spread, and any variant of Breach is garbage now. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals
EoN.
11
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:07:00 -
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When I m not in a tank, I am a MD user. Im glad I only went to the EXO. I was scared at first that I was the only one, then tried to suicide with it an....no. something is wrong |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
381
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:08:00 -
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All weapons are "nerfed" until you actually specialize in suit and weapon properly. Get some SP going first ;) |
Grezkev
The Red Guards
EoN.
245
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:09:00 -
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Thog A Kuma wrote:I'm having real trouble figuring out where my shots are landing.
I know my blast radius got smaller (I don't like it but oh well) but I am having a hell of a time figuring out how to aim this thing.
Did my smoke tracer get lighter?
I'm pretty sure something changed with my blast effect.
I definitely do not like that when I hit an opponent his body often disappears so I am left wondering if he is circling around me, or if he ran away. (the 50 WP notice is often washed out on the screen)
Played about 5 games and I just had to quit out of frustration.
Anyone of you regular MD guys have some hints?
^ This
There is a huge error with the shot arc |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
EoN.
1179
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:13:00 -
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MDs are fine. I kill pretty good with it. The range has reduced but that's ok. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:17:00 -
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I posted earlier today before I got a chance to play but now I see the numbers 
Noway am I going to skill into it now - the blast area is ridiculously tiny (even with 25% bump) and with splash damage also being low it seems absolutely stupid to use. You are better off chukking grenades.... progress!!! 
And for those to say it is supposed to be an area denial suppression tool, how can it be with massive drop off splash damage, small blast area and super low rate of fire.
I am not going to cry, just wont skill into it. Sad thing is, I had mapped out using that, with submachine gun and probably knife and flaylock later but now I'm forced back to the trusty old AR. Even though I have to skill higher in the AR, the resource requirements are less - seems like they have capitulated at the moment. |
Grezkev
The Red Guards
EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:18:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:MDs are fine. I kill pretty good with it. The range has reduced but that's ok.
The arc of the smoke trail is fail. |
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Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
82
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Posted - 2013.05.07 04:20:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:All weapons are "nerfed" until you actually specialize in suit and weapon properly. Get some SP going first ;)
I'm at operation 5 in MD, I spent the 6 months prior to this using MD. The AR has always been an easier and more effective weapon to use than the MD but that was fine, the MD used to be good at its intended role area suppression and support. It used to give enemies some pause and in close be as deadly to its user as an enemy. It had pluses it had minuses, now. Well I can only hope those that say to just give it more time are right or that CCP sees reason. I have more hope for the former than the latter. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
273
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:26:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Seems as though the primarily-AR users are being blamed for quite a few of the nerfs these days.....
I think its the fact that almost everything but the AR has been nerfed. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
514
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Posted - 2013.05.07 09:47:00 -
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Sontie wrote:everything got nerfed all to hell. I think they wanted to make this game have a longer to live time... so they massively decreased ranges and dmg and buffed ehp
^This is the correct answer!
With all the brokenness of sharpshooter and weaponry, Dust 514 was really feeling a lot like CoD 514. Now it's less twitch and more strafe and track, which is a good thing when we have to actually pay for our equipment. AR range could have been taken down a notch, but at this point I don't give a **** since my shield/armor feels like it's just a placebo. |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
555
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Posted - 2013.05.07 10:20:00 -
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I can't tell you all how glad I am that I looked up the stats before speccing into it, which I didn't.
It was working properly but has become a mere support weapon now. Thats not for me. |
Thranx1231
Talon Strike Force LTD
Orion Empire
101
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:04:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: -- snip CAP KEY QQ -- For your QQ it would seem. 
Welcome to New Eden.
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Smoky The Bear
Intergalactic Cannibus Cartel
15
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:10:00 -
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THEY KIILLED MY BABY...... babykillers |
MASS DR1V3R
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:22:00 -
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If you're using anything other than proto MD, you probably won't do well with it. Sure the blast radius got nerfed some, but it's not terrible. I went 21/3 with the Freedom in a match last night. All MD users are going to be rejoicing the fact that the blast radius got nerfed when PC hits and Friendly Fire is active. |
Tiluvo
Digital Mercs
62
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:22:00 -
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Was the damage lowered that much? I don't remember the exact numbers, but the EXO-5 seemed close to what it had, damagewise. 50% seems really harsh for the splash radius, 20-25% might have been better. I was worried speccing back into it, but I'm can deal with the damage change. I don't think its completely useless by any means. |
Selinate deux
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:23:00 -
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Mass driver is supposed to be a support weapon. All is well, now. |
Son Down
SamsClub
8
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:23:00 -
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8Qqu_WBIc |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3940
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:34:00 -
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based on quite a few videos I have seen so far. MDs are the new goto weapon. I don't think buffing would be appreciated by those getting shot by them. |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
220
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Posted - 2013.05.07 11:36:00 -
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Yeah it got nerf'd but it is still effective my first game in uprising I went 8-1 with the EXO-5 while acting mostly as support and I got allot more assists than I normally would. I think the MD now is less use if you try to solo with it but if your in a squad it is still a very effective support weapon most of my assists came from my AR/LR etc... guys scaring people into cover and me flushing them back out.
I would like it if the nerf got unnerf'd but I can manage with this its not nerf'd to uselessness plus with the SR coming I am betting allot more people will armour tank so that will be handy for us.
Also is anyone else getting 404 errors virtually everytime they post? |
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