DUST Search - confirmed: HMG sucks

Polish Hammer wrote:

Flagratus wrote:

Taken from the description of all HMGs, in Dust "A Multi-Barrel, rotary drive machine gun, the HMG is a singularly devastating anti-infantry weapon". Anti-Infantry or, if you prefer, Anti-Personnel weapons are designed specifically to attack. There is no supportive role, though one could be used as such in emergencies. Anti-Infantry is not a supportive role, it is the lead role. Thus making the Heavy, the lead role.

First off, this. Being lead role isn't saying "hey, we're better than you." It means we lead in. We get the shots fired at us first. If you're in the school of thought that because you use this particular suit or that, means that you're the most important, then you're an idiot. /discussion

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As stated previously, today I was consistently out ranged by shotgunners, which is completely ridiculous. I can't believe how wholly ineffective the HMGs have become. I could be okay with the damage nerf, but the range and (what appears to be) scatter of the HMGs rounds is atrocious.

The nerf that has been done to the HMGs was completely unwarranted. They were damn near perfect in the last build, so what was the reasoning behind this?


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General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 556	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:02:00 - [1] - Quote it's not the damage nerf that killed it, it's the fact that it has the range of a bloody shotgun who else has played with it?
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 556	Posted - 2013.05.06 19:17:00 - [2] - Quote 15 meters is the farthest kill i have gotten.....the fiction written by CCP states the HMG taking out a dropship. how bout we compromise CCP 10% more range for the HMG?
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 558	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:30:00 - [3] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: 15 meters is the farthest kill i have gotten.....the fiction written by CCP states the HMG taking out a dropship. how bout we compromise CCP 10% more range for the HMG? Curious, can you at least hit people from 50m out? lol, NO 20 meters seems to be the max, and at that range you're lucky to get an assist anyone else notice the OTHER stealth nerf to the HMG? runs out of ammo AND overheats far more quickly
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 558	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:32:00 - [4] - Quote also have matches quit, you don't get paid AND you lose those suits.....so i have lost about 2 mill to crap game design
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 558	Posted - 2013.05.06 20:45:00 - [5] - Quote Heavy Breaks wrote: You can't hit people the other side of the table top. Who needs numbers that is pathetic. Crouching is slower. Heavy HMG is now a support role. Unless you have 10 or 12 million sp to spunk into it. Heavy for life. But maybe with a forge. yup, going FG, can still be semi-useful with one of those
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 565	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:02:00 - [6] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Heavy Breaks wrote: You can't hit people the other side of the table top. Who needs numbers that is pathetic. Crouching is slower. Heavy HMG is now a support role. Unless you have 10 or 12 million sp to spunk into it. Heavy for life. But maybe with a forge. That's what a heavy + HMG is supposed to be... I know you don't want to hear that, but that is your role as an HMG user. Leave the slaying to the assaults, which is what our role is (although from what I read, AR range is garbage too). uh...no, read the assault suit and rifles description again, you're the jack of all trades guy able to do anything on the fly. the heavy is supposed to be the meat grinder that chews threw anyone in their path. but we can't charge objectives effectivly, hack effectivly, adatp to a changing battle quickly we kill, assault can do pretty much anything
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 566	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:46:00 - [7] - Quote Polish Hammer wrote: Flagratus wrote: Taken from the description of all HMGs, in Dust "A Multi-Barrel, rotary drive machine gun, the HMG is a singularly devastating anti-infantry weapon". Anti-Infantry or, if you prefer, Anti-Personnel weapons are designed specifically to attack. There is no supportive role, though one could be used as such in emergencies. Anti-Infantry is not a supportive role, it is the lead role. Thus making the Heavy, the lead role. First off, this. Being lead role isn't saying "hey, we're better than you." It means we lead in. We get the shots fired at us first. If you're in the school of thought that because you use this particular suit or that, means that you're the most important, then you're an idiot. /discussion SECOND As stated previously, today I was consistently out ranged by shotgunners, which is completely ridiculous. I can't believe how wholly ineffective the HMGs have become. I could be okay with the damage nerf, but the range and (what appears to be) scatter of the HMGs rounds is atrocious. The nerf that has been done to the HMGs was completely unwarranted. They were damn near perfect in the last build, so what was the reasoning behind this? that they were, had just the right range and damage to be a serious threat to a single player, but a group could still easily fell a heavy. now? i just try to get as many assists as possible
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 568	Posted - 2013.05.07 00:52:00 - [8] - Quote currently finding i do FAR better with the FG sadly due to it still having good range and damage, heavy suit is excellent, FG is good, but i am personally abandoning the HMG untill it gets SOMETHING done to make it a usefull weapon again