DUST Search - I'd like a militia BPO AURUM refund

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:

Look all im saying is CCP has a separate way of tracking aurum purchases for each account. I know this from personal experience with CCP.

Point is CCP could easily avoid the profit user would make on BPOs by refunding them AUR at the rate they purchased. (of course many would be fuming over this as these were purchased at cheaper rates, which ppl want to keep either as collectors or to sell to collectors down the road)

So its a clash of ppl who would have Aurum now at the value they paid for(many would be happy to have it at that rate and not seek to exploit it for market gain)

vs

Those who few closed beta testers that purchased a lot of BPO's at the lower market rate in anticipation of AUR refund or to sell on secondary market once it opened knowing that they're higher AUR price meant a larger eventual ISK return(a perfectly fair use)

Additionally there are those who purchased a single bpo of all the bpos for the purpose of collecting them or selling them to collecters. They would now have to repurchase them at a higher cost( a cost that everyone else has to pay now).

CCP very well could give us an option to choose in this regard too along with the character reset option as a SEPARATE option

Either keep you BPOs or AUR refund at the AUR price they were purchased at(that is a credit return no different than all the other AUR item returns, and since CCP can track the purchase but i imagine the price paid or at the least the date bought which can then be used to calculate the cost at that time).

Since these are BPO's there is no immediate day 1 rush to resolve this today. These things arent going anywhere

But it does state in the Dev blog that this will be the last AUR and merc pack reset. So I'm not sure if I agree with the final statement.


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Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 214	Posted - 2013.05.06 13:54:00 - [1] - Quote Look all im saying is CCP has a separate way of tracking aurum purchases for each account. I know this because i thought i wasnt credited 2 boosters because the market bugged and after i restarted they were there, but i had already written the support ticket. Before i could get a chance to tell them nevermind they had the data to show my acct had received the boosters. Point is CCP could easily avoid the profit users would make on BPOs by refunding them AUR at the rate they purchased. (of course many would be fuming over this as these were purchased at cheaper rates, which ppl want to keep either as collectors or to sell to collectors down the road) So its a clash of ppl who would have Aurum now at the value they paid for(many would be happy to have it at that rate and not seek to exploit it for market gain) vs Those who few closed beta testers that purchased a lot of BPO's at the lower market rate in anticipation of AUR refund or to sell on secondary market once it opened knowing that they're higher AUR price meant a larger eventual ISK return(a perfectly fair use) Additionally there are those who purchased a single bpo of all the bpos for the purpose of collecting them or selling them to collecters. They would now have to repurchase them at a higher cost( a cost that everyone else has to pay now). CCP very well could give us an option to choose in this regard too along with the character reset option as a SEPARATE option Either keep you BPOs or AUR refund at the AUR price they were purchased at(that is a credit return no different than all the other AUR item returns, and since CCP can track the purchase but i imagine the price paid or at the least the date bought which can then be used to calculate the cost at that time). Since these are BPO's there is no immediate day 1 rush to resolve this today. These things arent going anywhere
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 214	Posted - 2013.05.06 14:01:00 - [2] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Market speculation never gives you the rights to profit, it all depends on what CCP decides to do. Suck it up, cause trillions of ISK has been lost and no one cared then nor now. And I speak as one who got lucky in the past. Read the OP, clearly states a portion. In fact makes no mention of market profits. CCP tracks AURum purchases seperately and is fully capable of determining the AUR value at which a person paid for their AURUM items. So they have the ability to refund the AURUM at the market value for which it was paid. It would simply take a bit longer, and really the best way to go about it. But give people the option for this particular refund since there are those who would wamt to keep them for eventual sale on secondary market.
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 214	Posted - 2013.05.06 14:55:00 - [3] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: Look all im saying is CCP has a separate way of tracking aurum purchases for each account. I know this from personal experience with CCP. Point is CCP could easily avoid the profit user would make on BPOs by refunding them AUR at the rate they purchased. (of course many would be fuming over this as these were purchased at cheaper rates, which ppl want to keep either as collectors or to sell to collectors down the road) So its a clash of ppl who would have Aurum now at the value they paid for(many would be happy to have it at that rate and not seek to exploit it for market gain) vs Those who few closed beta testers that purchased a lot of BPO's at the lower market rate in anticipation of AUR refund or to sell on secondary market once it opened knowing that they're higher AUR price meant a larger eventual ISK return(a perfectly fair use) Additionally there are those who purchased a single bpo of all the bpos for the purpose of collecting them or selling them to collecters. They would now have to repurchase them at a higher cost( a cost that everyone else has to pay now). CCP very well could give us an option to choose in this regard too along with the character reset option as a SEPARATE option Either keep you BPOs or AUR refund at the AUR price they were purchased at(that is a credit return no different than all the other AUR item returns, and since CCP can track the purchase but i imagine the price paid or at the least the date bought which can then be used to calculate the cost at that time). Since these are BPO's there is no immediate day 1 rush to resolve this today. These things arent going anywhere But it does state in the Dev blog that this will be the last AUR and merc pack reset. So I'm not sure if I agree with the final statement. CCP can make exception and say that only a partial refund was conducted until this particular "exploit" was addressed. Lets not overthink this AUR refund at the original value the BPOs were purchased for those who want it or keep them for future sale or for collection purposes
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 214	Posted - 2013.05.06 15:20:00 - [4] - Quote Additionally expanding why CCP needs to at the very least offer the option if not outright give us the AURum refund on the BPOs Is because just like all the other aur and isk items in our inventories they are being refunded along with SP because they account that players may not have utlity of these items which were purchased in a chromosome build where they did have utility. Those who get aurum back on bpos are no different than the ones getting them on killswitches, except the margins are higher. Needless to say CCP at the very minimum needs to return the AURUM at the original price point that they were purchased and i know they have all that data tracked, if they dont that is and even LARGER issue if CCP cant track our real money transaactions.