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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.05.06 08:26:00 -
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Soozu wrote:Hmmmm, I wouldn't brag until the AUR is in the bank... What if CCP "refunds" the way any real world refund actually happens?? Y'know.. giving you back the same amount you paid. Or is it confirmed somewhere you get current market value?
They've confirmed the current market value in like 10 different places, just look at the DEVblogs.
I said there was no way all these BPO's were going to be refunded because CCP would see the insanity in that but now I'm not so sure. If that's the case I'll be getting around $300 US in AUR while only spending $40 on 2 merc packs because of the BPO's I purchased before the price change with absolutely no reason to purchase the items again. That's the thing about it, with the current AUR prices for these things I'd be better off just buying militia items 100 at a time with ISK if I want to use them.
Boosters are the only thing I'd buy with the AUR so I'll be getting lots and lots of them for free so the whole thing makes no damn sense. Shame I'm going to be out of the game for most of this excitement though. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:04:00 -
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Kiso Okami wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Hmm... 19,000,000?
Rounds to about $9,500 USD...
Wonder how much money CCP stands to lose on this stunt. say we had 300k players in closed beta and 2% did this stunt 300k*0.02*9.5k= 57 Millions it's all just assumptions Very cool that not a single Dev has been seen in this Thread... That's PSN hack levels of stupid right there... Heck, I'm willing to bet that even if only $1000 did this, they'd still be deep in the red.
It's not so much CCP losing money because odds are a lot of people that benefit from this would never purchase the equivalent amount of AUR anyway. Since AUR isn't actually a real thing CCP's only loss is the opportunity of additional sales. It's more about the ridiculous advantage this gives to some players over others.
Interesting to see how this plays out but I'm still banking on it not being what people think. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:09:00 -
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Flamesea wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Hmm... 19,000,000?
Rounds to about $9,500 USD...
Wonder how much money CCP stands to lose on this stunt. say we had 300k players in closed beta and 2% did this stunt 300k*0.02*9.5k= 57 Millions it's all just assumptions Very cool that not a single Dev has been seen in this Thread... That's PSN hack levels of stupid right there... Heck, I'm willing to bet that even if only $1000 did this, they'd still be deep in the red. It's not so much CCP losing money because odds are a lot of people that benefit from this would never purchase the equivalent amount of AUR anyway. Since AUR isn't actually a real thing CCP's only loss is the opportunity of additional sales. It's more about the ridiculous advantage this gives to some players over others. Interesting to see how this plays out but I'm still banking on it not being what people think. Merc pack's not renfunded was still small compared to this AUR wise.
Not following you, mate. Sorry. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:27:00 -
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Kiso Okami wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:It's not so much CCP losing money because odds are a lot of people that benefit from this would never purchase the equivalent amount of AUR anyway. Since AUR isn't actually a real thing CCP's only loss is the opportunity of additional sales. It's more about the ridiculous advantage this gives to some players over others.
Interesting to see how this plays out but I'm still banking on it not being what people think. That's just it, the fact that they wouldn't purchase that much AUR in their game span means that it has to be written off as a loss because they're basically giving away free money. Those who get these upgrades will soon find themselves in the position of never having to pay for boosters (obviously the most popular item only AUR can buy) for a long time... if ever. So if there ever was a chance that these investors would have spent money on the game again CCP basically just lost them.
They only lose as much money as the people would have bought without the free AUR. So there is no way to actually calculate anything about actual losses since there is no actual loss. For most players the amount of future AUR they would purchase will probably be much, much less than the amount they would receive in this scenario. |
Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.05.06 10:43:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:Kiso Okami wrote:Altina McAlterson wrote:It's not so much CCP losing money because odds are a lot of people that benefit from this would never purchase the equivalent amount of AUR anyway. Since AUR isn't actually a real thing CCP's only loss is the opportunity of additional sales. It's more about the ridiculous advantage this gives to some players over others.
Interesting to see how this plays out but I'm still banking on it not being what people think. That's just it, the fact that they wouldn't purchase that much AUR in their game span means that it has to be written off as a loss because they're basically giving away free money. Those who get these upgrades will soon find themselves in the position of never having to pay for boosters (obviously the most popular item only AUR can buy) for a long time... if ever. So if there ever was a chance that these investors would have spent money on the game again CCP basically just lost them. They only lose as much money as the people would have bought without the free AUR. So there is no way to actually calculate anything about actual losses since there is no actual loss. For most players the amount of future AUR they would purchase will probably be much, much less than the amount they would receive in this scenario. If 1-2% of the community holds 99% of the aurum and it becomes tradeable it would drive out new players from buying in since aurum would be so deflated. Imagine EvE decides to give 5trillion isk to 1/10000 players. It would destroy the game. This is a huge mistake and when player trading comes in will effect us all. Guild wars 2 has an extremely broken economy where goods are out of reach to players now because they changed market values overnight like this making a few extremely wealthy instantly. The top tier swords were selling for a few thousand dollars when I quit because there was market fixing by those who stumbled into absurd wealth through poor game market management.
Not saying it would have other effects in the game. Just saying you can't count every single AUR that CCP gives away as a loss. And since AUR prices are fixed and they will have a natural ISK price floor it wouldn't break the economy.
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Altina McAlterson
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Posted - 2013.05.06 12:17:00 -
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Holy crap it is kind of sad that I'm amazed CCP made such an informed decision and articulated it so clearly. I'm still a fanboy though I guess. Good call CCP. Keep it up. |
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