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ladwar
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:06:00 -
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because HAV's are getting nerf down to LAVs |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:23:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:Racial LAV is only a x4 skill and you don't know what level you need to get it to yet. It won't be too much SP.
im betting level 5 but hey that's just me. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:31:00 -
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for what to sink more sp? no one really specs heavy into LAVs because they are never worth it.at least you can use frigates for stuff. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:07:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:ladwar wrote:no one really specs heavy into LAVs because they are never worth it. Wrong.
oh do please tell me, I spent the time to go into the LLAV, spent time as a gunner on LAVs. all current LAVs are meant for transportation and actually have little to no need of the turret on the back. so do please tell me how I am wrong.
btw if the scout LAV is any clue on how LAVs are going then they are just going to get worse with increasingly less HP, less slots, less cpu/pg just to go faster for more cost. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:27:00 -
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its still just transportation, I fitted a proto turret as well, deadly lol... finding the right gunner is 90% of that battle even then its not greatly more effective the free LAV everyone gets without using a gunner. the current models for LAVs are not meant for anything but transportation with the free LAV does well at actually and till there is a new model even shown for upcoming build I'm sticking to the LAVs do not hold their worth in SP to train into them and could be used much more effectively somewhere else. put more tank into transportation help you get to your place where you can recall it but if you don't have the skills to fight at that place then there's no reason to put more tank on the transportation, just a different way to get there. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 18:38:00 -
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that's still more then free.. so that's up to you but risking 60k+ on lav plus the gear I have on doesn't seem worth it as I can effectively do the same without spending ISK on a LAV. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 20:05:00 -
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gbghg wrote:ladwar wrote:that's still more then free.. so that's up to you but risking 60k+ on lav plus the gear I have on doesn't seem worth it as I can effectively do the same without spending ISK on a LAV. This is why free LAV's need to go, so people will actual respect and use the standard and other versions. If you want a good fit check out bojos attack methane thread in the training grounds, me and bojo has earned orbitals using that thing, LAV's are actually very good vehicles, people just don't realise it.
the free LAV is a bad idea and I never liked the idea that everyone has one. and yes it is possible to get orbitals with LAVs, I have done it. by the fact is still there the gunner is next to useless with no cover and only very rarely has the gunner got more kills then me while driving because the current model is meant for transportation. LAV are ok vehicles but they don't stand well with HAVs ever. my best LAV runs only add up to slightly better then the worse HAV matches I have done. and you must of not really read that page, I have been there and dropped my ideas down and looked at them all. I totally think the scout LAV is a step backwards for LAVs not a step forward. LAVs are small niche role that is lacking tools to be effective at its niche role and for sp not worth when other roles have the tools to perform their role. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 20:53:00 -
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gbghg wrote:I'm reserving judgement on the scout LAV's, I'll see how they turn out among my more LAV dedicated fellow mercs. But IMO LAV's are fulfilling their role rather nicely right now, as ground transport and as a light attack vehicle. Stick the right turret on and use them properly, namely for hit and run and harassment attacks and they do quite well. Your mistake is comparing them to HAV's they occupy different roles in the battlefield, they should be judged according to those, not against each other. LAV's are like dropships, their not supposed to take punishment, their supposed to avoid it. HAV's on the other hand are meant to take and dish out huge amounts of damage, you can't and shouldn't compare them.
but its not hard for dropships to kill tanks with LAVs its ok, switch to walking boys till that HAV is down. and the LAV tank is fine or at least ok it the actually model design.. its not meant to attack runs, sure zero-very light resistance they do fine for attack runs any more and your leaving before your gunner or yourself is dead the LAV might be just fine thou. |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 20:55:00 -
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Spy Mouse wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:A prototype turret at a .5 damage mod... worse than militia. What is this damage mod you speak of? I use the Methana but plan on using the Limbus in Uprising. Edit: I just had a look at the Limbus description. All my plans are ruined. 
you never read the added part that all LLAVs have? |
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