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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.05.05 14:57:00 - [1] - Quote Introducing a system where you will need to do certain actions to gain SP. No automatic SP each game. No afk farming. SP is rewarded only to those who fight the fight. There will be many different events in game that will reward SP. E.g. Target acquisition (enemy appearing on radar) (shared with team): 50 SP per red dot acquired Target acquisition with active scanner: 100 SP per target Battlefield transverse: 1 SP per metre Deploying items: 200 SP Killing enemy: 500 SP Assist killing: 250 SP Killing enemy from behind: 750 SP Killing enemy (head shot): 750 SP Reviving teammate: 1000 SP Hacking target: 2000 SP etc etc etc
WyrmHero1945 Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 184	Posted - 2013.05.05 14:59:00 - [2] - Quote Yeah something like that.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 465	Posted - 2013.05.05 15:02:00 - [3] - Quote I like the direction, but I see a major problem with hacking being worth that much. With FW allowing you to rig both sides of the Battlefield I see way way to many 50,000SP matches under this system.
Icy Xenosmilus Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2013.05.05 15:03:00 - [4] - Quote No to Battlefield Tranverse. Also, all they need to do is remove the 5 SP/s, and just increase the SP earned from doing WP actions.
Nstomper Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 287	Posted - 2013.05.05 15:04:00 - [5] - Quote Its a good idea but you have the amount of sp people will get too high
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 844	Posted - 2013.05.05 15:31:00 - [6] - Quote The amount of SP is TOO DAMN HIGH
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 9	Posted - 2013.05.05 15:35:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The amount of SP is TOO DAMN HIGH Then STOP PLAYING SO MUCH
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 1390	Posted - 2013.05.05 15:42:00 - [8] - Quote I could earn so much sp from that battlefield traverse, let's think for a minute. Most maps are somewhere close to a Km long, a dropship can cover that distance easily in about 15-30 seconds. A turn around and flying back the other way would take a similar timespan, that's close to 2000sp in under a minute, considering that most skirmishes last around 30 minutes, we're talking around 60k sp a match, for flying up and down the map doing nothing.
Jason Starhawker DUST University Ivy League 8	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:42:00 - [9] - Quote To help DUST bunnies that are trying, but aren't even earning kill assists, what about something like 1 SP for every 5 rounds that strike an enemy? That encourages them to venture out into harm, and to try to kill.
J Falcs Bojo's School of the Trades 13	Posted - 2013.05.05 18:45:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The amount of SP is TOO DAMN HIGH Nice rent reference.

Jotun Hiem The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 585	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:26:00 - [11] - Quote I like where you're going with this, but those SP reward values need to be lowered. I had a game just the other day where I went 41:8, that's over 20,000 SP just from kills alone, assuming that none of them where from behind.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 182	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:28:00 - [12] - Quote Nope
Aegis Scientiafide Planetary Response Organisation 13	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:32:00 - [13] - Quote So bad players don't deserve SP?
Buster Friently Rosen Association 363	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:43:00 - [14] - Quote 5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak5q wrote: Introducing a system where you will need to do certain actions to gain SP. No automatic SP each game. No afk farming. SP is rewarded only to those who fight the fight. There will be many different events in game that will reward SP. E.g. Quote: Tecnet Target acquisition (enemy appearing on radar) (shared with team): 50 SP per red dot acquired Target acquisition with active scanner: 100 SP per target Movement Battlefield transverse: 1 SP per metre Logistics Deploying hives etc: 200 SP Reviving teammate: 1000 SP Hacking target: 2000 SP Battle Killing enemy: 500 SP Assist killing: 250 SP Killing enemy from behind: 750 SP Killing enemy (head shot): 750 SP Bonuses Killing streaks: 50 SP per extra kill (second kill gets 550, maximum 750) Penalties Team kill: -500 SP etc etc etc (working in progress) please write down anything you can think of, I will update the list this is just a concept, the SP levels will need tweaking of course Grats thinking up this solution that has been thrown out on the forums 100 times. Minus one for not understanding systems like this screw over new players. Please remember that new players are the most important players. That's right newbs are more important than you or I. Now, come up with a system that works for them.
Boomer Jack Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:46:00 - [15] - Quote You can probably get the best of both worlds. Have a base SP influenced by time at risk (not afk). Loser noobs can still get enough SP to get into the lower parts of the skill tree as they are learning to play. Have a bonus SP influenced by your percentage of valuable actions. This might include killing an opponent, damaging an opponent, stopping a hack in progress (so you aren't given an incentive to let it complete), killing an enemy hacker, scoping out otherwise hidden players (spotting), healing, repairing, etc, etc. Now, by influenced, I suggest that the ranking determines the split, so you don't earn X SP per action, but your rank decides you payout of the bonus -- so it really matters.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1424	Posted - 2013.05.05 19:47:00 - [16] - Quote This essay on what is cause the SP system to break may interest you. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=71470&find=unread


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