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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:05:00 -
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Work in Progress mind you.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdE9PTjl5UmFGQk9kOVkxX0VZX1RfOXc#gid=0
Will be listing bonuses and break downs as I make them. |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:31:00 -
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so they did make cpu and pg x5 skills do you know why?
ty for taking your time to do this. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
166
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:32:00 -
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So less levels? I am Guessing.
Will they require more SP? |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1397
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:33:00 -
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150 vs 30 ... yeah about the same all right. And that's just dropsuits. |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:47:00 -
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so uprising is making all the skill cost more awesome
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Citpaan Hacos
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:55:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:150 vs 30 ... yeah about the same all right. And that's just dropsuits.
There's about 200 more in multipliers in Uprising, half of it in dropsuits, and the rest caused by the splitting of vehicle and infantry module skills. A ton of the turret skills are gone though.
The worrying thing is, we are paying more SP for fewer skills (rapid reload and upgrades are gone, half of the turret skills have disappeared). If and when they add some stuff back, that's when we're really going to see the total needed SP count balloon. |
Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:56:00 -
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Come on people where in proto suits within a few months. It's the bloddy same in eve on the better skills you gotta invest sometimes up to a month to get it trained. So basically the same here. Won't begin to joggle numbers as i'm most likly wrong but beta was so we could try stuff and now we have tried it so now's decision time.
Now the game begins so adapt and get going. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
291
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Posted - 2013.05.04 23:59:00 -
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Citpaan Hacos wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:150 vs 30 ... yeah about the same all right. And that's just dropsuits. There's about 200 more in multipliers in Uprising, half of it in dropsuits, and the rest caused by the splitting of vehicle and infantry module skills. A ton of the turret skills are gone though. The worrying thing is, we are paying more SP for fewer skills (rapid reload and upgrades are gone, half of the turret skills have disappeared). If and when they add some stuff back, that's when we're really going to see the total needed SP count balloon.
reload and upgrades are in higher tiers... they are still there with higher multipliers. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
1326
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:00:00 -
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Hmm, interesting.
He hasn't finished yet, but so far it looks like they made it way easier to spec into weaponry based skills, and much harder to skill into multiple dropsuits. I don't have a problem with that tbh.
The Engineering and Electronics skill multipliers are still uncalled for though. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
368
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:02:00 -
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I'd like to know why translatable skills are so much more expensive in Dust than Eve.
I don't want to max everything in a year but it is interesting that ccp thinks its cool to inflate our skill costs unnecessarily.
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Citpaan Hacos
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:23:00 -
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ladwar wrote:reload and upgrades are in higher tiers... they are still there with higher multipliers.
Oh balls, they didn't show when I opened the thing in Google. |
NIIKIA
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.05.05 00:27:00 -
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i don't understand why they would make everything harder to get
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Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
1328
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:17:00 -
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Bumping because it looks like he's editing again. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
389
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:22:00 -
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NIIKIA wrote:i don't understand why they would make everything harder to get
It is a simple concept.
Longevity. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:47:00 -
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Ill be stating the per multiplier group when needed.
Right now logging onto sisi to get bonuses.
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2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
73
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:01:00 -
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Just jumped on SiSi to have a look at skill bonuses... it appears that we have additional skills.. i.e. Dropsuit Core Upgrades (which is a 2x skill) gives +1% CPU AND PG per level, and skills like Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades (2x skill) gives +1% Sprint speed, maximum stamina and maximum stamina recovery rate per level...
This is good, it means that theres a much higher level of capability available here! I'm excited about this  |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:46:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:Just jumped on SiSi to have a look at skill bonuses... it appears that we have additional skills.. i.e. Dropsuit Core Upgrades (which is a 2x skill) gives +1% CPU AND PG per level, and skills like Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades (2x skill) gives +1% Sprint speed, maximum stamina and maximum stamina recovery rate per level... This is good, it means that theres a much higher level of capability available here! I'm excited about this
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RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
133
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:49:00 -
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Would you mind telling us what the Scrambler Rifle Proficiency skills exact bonus is? That section seems highly generalized so I cant really tell whats what there. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3858
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:01:00 -
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All weapon Proficiency are 3% damage.
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2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
73
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:02:00 -
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RECON BY FIRE wrote:Would you mind telling us what the Scrambler Rifle Proficiency skills exact bonus is? That section seems highly generalized so I cant really tell whats what there.
3% damage per level |
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RECON BY FIRE
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
133
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:14:00 -
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Thanks fellas, I appreciate it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3858
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:30:00 -
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Anyways SiSi is going down, going to hit the bed then maybe its going down for an update. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1419
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:40:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:NIIKIA wrote:i don't understand why they would make everything harder to get
It is a simple concept. Longevity.
It's stretching thin sparse content.
Padding. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3864
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Posted - 2013.05.05 16:21:00 -
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For those of you wondering I am building this tree to have something solid to stand on when I talk to CCP.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3895
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Posted - 2013.05.06 06:17:00 -
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If anyone wants to grab the last of the bonsues on page 2 and post them here before the servers go down I'd appreciate it. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
182
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Posted - 2013.05.06 06:28:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:I'd like to know why translatable skills are so much more expensive in Dust than Eve.
I don't want to max everything in a year but it is interesting that ccp thinks its cool to inflate our skill costs unnecessarily.
Because in eve it takes roughly 3 weeks to earn 1 million SP points, in Dust its around 2 weeks, basically your able to catch up to capsuleers within a few years that have played for 7+ years. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
488
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Posted - 2013.05.06 06:37:00 -
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LAV skills are looking better. Before, it took longer to get into a logi LAV than it took to get into a marauder HAV, even with turrets. Too bad I got to wait for my Minmatar rust bucket. How soon is soonGäó again? |
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