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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Veritas Vitae wrote:Logis seem to have had their survivability bumped a little bit, but all of them are slow as **** now; no speed variant that is faster than assaults. Lack of sidearm and speed is what will get them killed in gunfights. The difference isn't that big, one kinetic catalyzer, and they have the slots to support that. Also I rarely use my sidearm, with reload speed maxed out you won't ever need to. (Switching to sidearm is slow in this game anyway)
Kinnietic catalyzers don't effect movement speed, which is more important in a gun fight than just sprinting.
Although I think the Minmatar Logi isas fast as aaaults.
That said, I do think logis might be a bit too good, but we'll have to wait and see.
They certainly do have more potential, but they will also cost more.
Quote:Another option which I prefer, would be to remove logi light weapon and have them only have a sidearm weapon.
This will force them to engage enemy as a last resort. Lay off the catnip. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:09:00 -
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slypie11 wrote:
now apparently we have sprint strafing, so movement speed wont matter as much in a gunfight
I forgot that, but can you shoot while running? o.O |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:11:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Another option which I prefer, would be to remove logi light weapon and have them only have a sidearm weapon.
This will force them to engage enemy as a last resort. I kind of like this idea.
Hell no, not even out yet and you guys already want to nerf them?
Remove 1 highslot from the Caldari suit
1 low slot from the Gallenete suit
Amarr suit is perfect
Cut Minmatar suits HP a little more. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Logis could probably do with a few less slots 
It's always been like that, even now, you guys just barely had a problem with it?
I actually like the Idea of giving assault suits the weaponry bonus that got taken away, 2% per level. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:14:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I haven't heard any OP threads on the logi this build.
I think this is the first time any of them actually looked at a logi suit's stats |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:17:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:When I first looked at the PG/CPU, equipement slots, base shields/armor, movement speed, etc I thought the exact same thing. The only thing that would keep me from going Logi/AR or something would be if they have a bigger hit box. The Caldari Logi suit has a sidearm, for those who would want one.
Also the role bonus for Logi suits is waaay better than the Assault one, at least in my opinion. Plus the racial bonuses for Assault suits kind of suck. Laser heat build up reduction? Sidearm clip size? Reduction of PG/CPU of hybrid weaponry? What a joke. With logi suits you can get hacking speed or increased efficacy of shield extenders (among other, less significant options) if you so choose.
Amarr suit, not caldari, the one with 3/3/3 slots/equipment. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:39:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Assault suits have more stamina, more foward speed, more STRAFE SPEED, more stock EHP (which also means you can fit more damage mods aka more damage with the same amount of total ehp in the end). and this is not enough advantage?
and ofcourse logi has more PG/CPU, the equipment requires alot of it or how do you want to fit it?
do people actually think before they post or does the majority of this community consists of whiny kids that came from CoD? endless waves of whiny nobrain posts lately. this thread is less whiny than others but it is still whiny... That's 30 stamina difference. The speed difference is tiny. The eHP difference is one bullets worth, regen on armor is far more valuable.
Did you include skill bonuses in regards to stamina and HP?
And the speed difference isn't tiny.
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NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
139
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:43:00 -
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I'm telling you, your best bet would be to get them to change the assault class bouns to a damage modifier.
We currently don't have people complaining Logi's are OP just because they have more slots, they're supposed too. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
139
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:50:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:
Obviously it will marginally help every assault user, but it just de-incentivizes people even more to armor tank when they're going to have another bonus to shield tank.
I heard, there shall be plates with less of a HP bonus, but no movement penalty. Still, I don't think that's enough to get most people to Armor tank. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 21:59:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: Not coming in Uprising.
Why is this such a common mistake?
Its also VERY slow to regenerate, often taking 2-3 minutes to fully regen.
never said it was
That's what logis are for |
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