DUST Search - Why hasn't the CPM stepped in to help us in this time of distress?

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

King Kobrah wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

King Kobrah wrote:

Seriously, where are all the "great and powerful" CPM members standing up for the playerbase?

Why isn't the CPM lashing out at CCP for violating consumer rights?
Why isn't the CPM lasting out at CCP for massive SP sinks in uprising?
Where is the CPM's backbone?
Why is the CPM sitting on it's hands, waiting for the new build to come out, when they already know there's major issues with it?
Why didn't we get to appoint our own CPM, and instead are handed a group of socially awkward, spinless shut-ins?

Fine then as the designated forum warrior of the CPM.

1 CPM believes in fair trade, you still have or get the option to rehave those items without screwing everyone else over. Regardless of what happened you still have one golden box per purchase, Not magically having infinum number for the price of one as the terms only dictate you have one at any given time regardless of what happens. The terms does not allow for 2 for the price of 1. In order to get a new one all the old items have to be removed first before being re-issued. if you still feel that you have been undervalued you can easily take the issue to CCP and maybe they will explain everything for you. After all its a messaging error and you know how messages get lagged and delayed, hell GameSpot is still selling under the old terms and refuses to update it seems.

2. We're still analyzing the blog, we feel the suit progression is a bit broken but we're still discussing on how its all going to fall into place vs the old system as per other thread I started https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72238&find=unread you get your first proto suit 600k points far earlier than current. As for the rest of the tree i just pulled all of chomosome's skills into a sheet and doing some 'comparisons.' However form the looks of it, after the initial hurdle of the pre-requistits most of the subsequent skills are easier to access.

3. Chances are that when posts like these pop up they're not for the best of the community at all. Involving the CPM directly has always produce the most negative results because you guys would try to box us into a corner or force us to say things that are simply hurtful to everyone on the entire spectrum. The better advice is to read, watch and listen and relay concerns.

4. We're busy with other topics I cannot discuss yet or probably never. All this stuff here you're all complaining about was last weeks' issues most of the predictions came true-ish.

5. Chances are you'd wind up with a CPM that would not be that helpful to anyone but themselves or think they need to tackle every single possible balance design issue when there are far more things that need discussion. I only been at this officially for a week and its already quite a bit of work right now especially with you guys complaining about stuff.

1) wording is very clear on merc packs differentiating between "on reset" and "on commercial release", why have you done nothing to address this with CCP?

2) you're supporting the ******** SP sinks just because you get a gimped proto version a little earlier, yet what we have now is better than what we'll get in a few days with 5+m SP investment? how is this okay?

3) this post is to call attention to the CPM to do your jobs; reverberate what the community wants, get answers from CCP, make yourself a champion of the people. You're just sitting on your hands.

4&5) if the predictions came true, and you got the shitstorm you were expecting, why weren't there adjustments made to avoid this? i'm sure you're working on a bunch of super top secret stuff (lol) but if you predict a huge backlash, maybe you should try altering your course before running over everyone's toes?

2. Stop putting words into my mouth, I am currently researching the changes and if you cannot understand that then I cannot find your complaints or concerns worth making valuable. The base suits for the most part are competitive against your current suits today, and the base suits are more than capable of kicking the crap out of the specialists of same meta. For example the gallente logi basic only has 2 low slow (0 highs, no sidearm) compared to medium frame having 3-4 slots on basic with a side arm. Additionally nobody is forcing you into those newer suits, they're much more end game content, its like HAV pilots mostly deciding they rather stick to using the regular HAVs instead and maxing out support/turret skills instead of going up the path of the muraders (and soon enforcers which overall looks like a shoddy class)


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NIIKIA Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:57:00 - [1] - Quote they won't all they do is delay things
NIIKIA Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2013.05.04 19:30:00 - [2] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: King Kobrah wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: King Kobrah wrote: Seriously, where are all the "great and powerful" CPM members standing up for the playerbase? Why isn't the CPM lashing out at CCP for violating consumer rights? Why isn't the CPM lasting out at CCP for massive SP sinks in uprising? Where is the CPM's backbone? Why is the CPM sitting on it's hands, waiting for the new build to come out, when they already know there's major issues with it? Why didn't we get to appoint our own CPM, and instead are handed a group of socially awkward, spinless shut-ins? Fine then as the designated forum warrior of the CPM. 1 CPM believes in fair trade, you still have or get the option to rehave those items without screwing everyone else over. Regardless of what happened you still have one golden box per purchase, Not magically having infinum number for the price of one as the terms only dictate you have one at any given time regardless of what happens. The terms does not allow for 2 for the price of 1. In order to get a new one all the old items have to be removed first before being re-issued. if you still feel that you have been undervalued you can easily take the issue to CCP and maybe they will explain everything for you. After all its a messaging error and you know how messages get lagged and delayed, hell GameSpot is still selling under the old terms and refuses to update it seems. 2. We're still analyzing the blog, we feel the suit progression is a bit broken but we're still discussing on how its all going to fall into place vs the old system as per other thread I started https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72238&find=unread you get your first proto suit 600k points far earlier than current. As for the rest of the tree i just pulled all of chomosome's skills into a sheet and doing some 'comparisons.' However form the looks of it, after the initial hurdle of the pre-requistits most of the subsequent skills are easier to access. 3. Chances are that when posts like these pop up they're not for the best of the community at all. Involving the CPM directly has always produce the most negative results because you guys would try to box us into a corner or force us to say things that are simply hurtful to everyone on the entire spectrum. The better advice is to read, watch and listen and relay concerns. 4. We're busy with other topics I cannot discuss yet or probably never. All this stuff here you're all complaining about was last weeks' issues most of the predictions came true-ish. 5. Chances are you'd wind up with a CPM that would not be that helpful to anyone but themselves or think they need to tackle every single possible balance design issue when there are far more things that need discussion. I only been at this officially for a week and its already quite a bit of work right now especially with you guys complaining about stuff. 1) wording is very clear on merc packs differentiating between "on reset" and "on commercial release", why have you done nothing to address this with CCP? 2) you're supporting the ******** SP sinks just because you get a gimped proto version a little earlier, yet what we have now is better than what we'll get in a few days with 5+m SP investment? how is this okay? 3) this post is to call attention to the CPM to do your jobs; reverberate what the community wants, get answers from CCP, make yourself a champion of the people. You're just sitting on your hands. 4&5) if the predictions came true, and you got the shitstorm you were expecting, why weren't there adjustments made to avoid this? i'm sure you're working on a bunch of super top secret stuff (lol) but if you predict a huge backlash, maybe you should try altering your course before running over everyone's toes? 2. Stop putting words into my mouth, I am currently researching the changes and if you cannot understand that then I cannot find your complaints or concerns worth making valuable. The base suits for the most part are competitive against your current suits today, and the base suits are more than capable of kicking the crap out of the specialists of same meta. For example the gallente logi basic only has 2 low slow (0 highs, no sidearm) compared to medium frame having 3-4 slots on basic with a side arm. Additionally nobody is forcing you into those newer suits, they're much more end game content, its like HAV pilots mostly deciding they rather stick to using the regular HAVs instead and maxing out support/turret skills instead of going up the path of the muraders (and soon enforcers which overall looks like a shoddy class) i'll give you end game content. but what about the x5 for core skills? meaning cpu and pg that's 3mil sp same it would take you to get into a end game drop suit for 5% to cpu and 5% pg is that also fair?