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Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:37:00 -
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So I can see that people are claiming things are nerfed, broken, unbalanced, horrible, and all that, so apparently they all played Uprising for a very long time now.
Tell me, how did you get your hands on it? I'd like to try it out too 2 days ahead of time. :)
Thanks! |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
118
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:42:00 -
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Going on past experience with CCPs "balancing" and their patch notes. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:44:00 -
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Wait a minute so you judge a game by a forum post?
Ah. Cool. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:44:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Going on past experience with CCPs "balancing" and their patch notes.
THIS
what is it now, 8 months of playing this game and the trend is already ABUNDANTLY clear on what to expect on expansions? CCP claims they want to support it for a decade, good luck making it 2 years before everyone uses the AR and assault suit |
Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:45:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:So I can see that people are claiming things are nerfed, broken, unbalanced, horrible, and all that, so apparently they all played Uprising for a very long time now.
Tell me, how did you get your hands on it? I'd like to try it out too 2 days ahead of time. :)
Thanks!
A good deal of people went to fanfest, not everyone, just the most important people.
At fanfest people could play the build that is the yet to be released expansion. I would guess things might change but over all what they saw will be very similar to what we will see. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:48:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:At fanfest people could play the build that is the yet to be released expansion. Yes. In those 3 days for like 2-3 hours. Hardly a proper test of all things that are implemented. |
DigiOps
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:50:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Going on past experience with CCPs "balancing" and their patch notes. The bold is what most people who complain are worried about. |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:52:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Yes. In those 3 days for like 2-3 hours. Hardly a proper test of all things that are implemented.
Again, going on past experince and the patch notes.
Look at it this way.
You have a friend who likes to inject ****** into is *******, hes been to rehab 4 time already and you've helped him financially every time, he has got to go again because he likes the ******, but he swears this times will be the last. Mow do you believe him or do you look to the past?
Man I love ******* and ******. Trufax
lol H-eroin and cokaine are censored? |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:54:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:Sylvana Nightwind wrote:So I can see that people are claiming things are nerfed, broken, unbalanced, horrible, and all that, so apparently they all played Uprising for a very long time now.
Tell me, how did you get your hands on it? I'd like to try it out too 2 days ahead of time. :)
Thanks! A good deal of people went to fanfest, not everyone, just the most important people At fanfest people could play the build that is the yet to be released expansion. I would guess things might change but over all what they saw will be very similar to what we will see. They played a tournament build and a weekend is hardly enough time to form a comprehensive and educated opinion. Especially since this game is all about skills and modules that change base stats so much. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
1070
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:55:00 -
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I point the finger of all this mayhem at Open Beta. This is the first "new build" of Open Beta. People just couldn't hold back, a lot of closed beta testers as well apparently.
There was honestly not this much insane moronic complaining when Chromosome came out. Sure there were things similar to this, but not on this scale. A lot of threads were speculation threads.
Also, people seem to disregard the multiple threads rule |
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undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
336
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:00:00 -
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I played it.... heavy is not what it once was. Tanks are a joke. Scrambler rifle is a lol weapon Flaylock is new AR Plasma cannon shoots kittens Regular AR is the same minus a lot of range Knives are useful for once Dropsuits are awesome I will say that.... most of them anyways... |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:23:00 -
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If people complain about it the day of release, you would say "wait longer to gather more information" If people complain about it three weeks later, you would say "wait for the next build" If people complain about the next build, you say "its not even here yet wait until it comes out"
Theres the trend on the forums for you.
If we see a problem NOW, we should post it NOW so it doesnt come as a complete shocker and surprise kick to the face, and CCP can work to fix it...
If you can read, make inferences and judge based on past experience then you can make reasonable assumptions about the game and post your concerns. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:37:00 -
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The fact that 99% of the forums are judging the game that is not even out yet makes me wonder though. How they can test everything and provide that kind of (invalid) feedback at all? :P Start whining on 14th, tbh ;) |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
85
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:34:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:So I can see that people are claiming things are nerfed, broken, unbalanced, horrible, and all that, so apparently they all played Uprising for a very long time now.
Tell me, how did you get your hands on it? I'd like to try it out too 2 days ahead of time. :)
Thanks!
reading this and reading your following comment tells me you are someone high and mighty with self glory but in blunt honesty an idiot, you said in the 3rd comment on the forum that reading the patch notes that came from this forum doesn`1t prove anything as fact, before I spend my next 30 minutes typing how and why it is dumb since plenty in this forum already knows why I will go right to the point, are you that dumb? THEY MADE THE BUILD, THIS IS HOW THEY STATE IT IN FULL FACTUAL HONESTY how on this planet can another human being pretend that to be wrong just to rebuke others? if they go off of the fact built that's fine, if they breach that and start rumors of their own they are wrong and CCP is fully a wear and can tell reason from a useless comment, giving feedback before tis there can ruin your reputation but Devs don`t complain about it because it can REALLY help at times, like the PC being pushed back. |
Smooth Head
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:41:00 -
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The only people who played TURD 514 at fan fest were sycophants.
I'm inclined to pay more credence to those judging CCP on past form and their randomized patch notes than gushing reports of people in an hyped up situation still excited about how free their adventure was. |
Mark0h
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
5
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:49:00 -
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Well I can tell you one thing, no one knows **** about how all this will play out during PC |
BlG MAMA
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:52:00 -
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because people can see stuff in videos , they pause and look at numbers and stuff , its called analyze
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:02:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:because people can see stuff in videos , they pause and look at numbers and stuff , its called analyze Ive read so many of your post and i have to say your trolling skills are average at best, you should really take lessons from regnum public relations or that other guy we love regnum |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:04:00 -
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I went to GAME and bought a copy...or was that CoD? it's hard to tell sometimes when I see the same avatar running about with the same weapon. |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
85
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:09:00 -
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:because people can see stuff in videos , they pause and look at numbers and stuff , its called analyze Ive read so many of your post and i have to say your trolling skills are average at best, you should really take lessons from regnum public relations or that other guy we love regnum
that's called common sense not trolling, we like getting numbers and facts by searching for info in frames if necessary, that might be why we are argueing, we are devote and when there's something wrong we state it, I haven't seen much errors when posting it and I ignore the spam of threads since it doesn`t take long for the smaller ones to die down. |
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:10:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:because people can see stuff in videos , they pause and look at numbers and stuff , its called analyze
see the HMG stats? absolute **** |
ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:11:00 -
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Shouper of BHD wrote:ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:because people can see stuff in videos , they pause and look at numbers and stuff , its called analyze Ive read so many of your post and i have to say your trolling skills are average at best, you should really take lessons from regnum public relations or that other guy we love regnum that's called common sense not trolling, we like getting numbers and facts by searching for info in frames if necessary, that might be why we are argueing, we are devote and when there's something wrong we state it, I haven't seen much errors when posting it and I ignore the spam of threads since it doesn`t take long for the smaller ones to die down. Wasnt talking about this post of hers his or its smart one she him it has attempted to troll other threads |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:11:00 -
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I swear if you start whining about hav, hmg, and anything else I will report my own thread to be locked... :D Since it is apparently too hard to wait for 48 hours. |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
85
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:12:00 -
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:because people can see stuff in videos , they pause and look at numbers and stuff , its called analyze Ive read so many of your post and i have to say your trolling skills are average at best, you should really take lessons from regnum public relations or that other guy we love regnum that's called common sense not trolling, we like getting numbers and facts by searching for info in frames if necessary, that might be why we are argueing, we are devote and when there's something wrong we state it, I haven't seen much errors when posting it and I ignore the spam of threads since it doesn`t take long for the smaller ones to die down. Wasnt talking about this post of hers his or its smart one she him it has attempted to troll other threads
so you were referring to the OP? |
BlG MAMA
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:13:00 -
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:because people can see stuff in videos , they pause and look at numbers and stuff , its called analyze Ive read so many of your post and i have to say your trolling skills are average at best, you should really take lessons from regnum public relations or that other guy we love regnum
what exactly upsets you in what i said? the truth? or the " " smiley
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:14:00 -
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Shouper of BHD wrote:ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:Shouper of BHD wrote:ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:because people can see stuff in videos , they pause and look at numbers and stuff , its called analyze Ive read so many of your post and i have to say your trolling skills are average at best, you should really take lessons from regnum public relations or that other guy we love regnum that's called common sense not trolling, we like getting numbers and facts by searching for info in frames if necessary, that might be why we are argueing, we are devote and when there's something wrong we state it, I haven't seen much errors when posting it and I ignore the spam of threads since it doesn`t take long for the smaller ones to die down. Wasnt talking about this post of hers his or its smart one she him it has attempted to troll other threads so you were referring to the OP? dude go look at big mamas posting history and you will notice she tries to troll but does a terrible job , this is me just giving her advice to who she needs to go to if she wants to be a good troll
Ps: done with this thread good bye bro |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
86
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:22:00 -
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[/quote] dude go look at big mamas posting history and you will notice she tries to troll but does a terrible job , this is me just giving her advice to who she needs to go to if she wants to be a good troll
Ps: done with this thread good bye bro [/quote]
in that case the comment wasn`t dumb, but irrelevant. Thing is though, that comment she made was perfectly logical none the less. |
BlG MAMA
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:25:00 -
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some people get hurt by truth , he is one of them and to be honest its just common sense , some people get lots of info from a vid if they pause it , i guess he didnt think of that , he must be still a young one
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:30:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:some people get hurt by truth , he is one of them and to be honest its just common sense , some people get lots of info from a vid if they pause it , i guess he didnt think of that , he must be still a young one Butt hurt about? Not seeing how telling someone to go to people that are better than them at something for advice is being butt hurt please explain
And as i said idk if you can read i wasnt talking about your first post on this thread |
BlG MAMA
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:33:00 -
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:some people get hurt by truth , he is one of them and to be honest its just common sense , some people get lots of info from a vid if they pause it , i guess he didnt think of that , he must be still a young one Butt hurt about? Not seeing how telling someone to go to people that are better than them at something for advice is being butt hurt please explain And as i said idk if you can read i wasnt talking about your first post on this thread
werent u done with this thread bro?
what made u come back?
u got touched deep inside
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Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
86
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:37:00 -
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well in the betas I`ve been in, both privet and public beta forums of the games have the 'these guys are trolls' threads and I see this coming up again here so I`m not surprised, but to the direct point, she (I`m assuming your avatar is honest gender wise) was using common sense and mentioning her as a troll wasn`t relevant. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
326
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:45:00 -
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Remember chromosome "Feedback" on patch notes? No? Here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47723 :D This happens every single patch on forums... People whine before they get their hands on it. And then when patch happens - they whine about completely different things. |
BlG MAMA
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
64
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:47:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Remember chromosome "Feedback" on patch notes? No? Here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47723 :D This happens every single patch on forums... People whine before they get their hands on it. And then when patch happens - they whine about completely different things.
its how world works , its from that mess that good ideeas come to life , you need that mess if you want to advance
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Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:00:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Remember chromosome "Feedback" on patch notes? No? Here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47723 :D This happens every single patch on forums... People whine before they get their hands on it. And then when patch happens - they whine about completely different things.
you compare apples to oranges, where was I then and was there posting the same as me? child`s books teach morals about not taking one for another and you as a grown man or woman (or teenager) still post here laughing at 'everyone else's' idiocy, the argument placed was factual against you and all you have posted is something you claim as fact and truth yet its not logical to put it against my argument as well as a few others here.
here's my experience from the matter please read with an open mind, my first all out devoted to game all the way beta was star Hawk, since it was my first time I played the game actively, I read ALL the forums daily even the ones I disagreed with and my main issue with the game was people were posting 'complaints' (at that time I saw it as complaint but it was feedback) about Cluster Bombs, they saw a leaked gameplay video and I was against it as much as you are against 'complaints'/ feedback. when it was released it was OP and took 4 major builds to fix it to a point that wasn`t so bad (they moved on to Flak though so yea, hawks are still OP in SH), what I`ve learned from this is: it is fine for beta testers to give feedback/ speculation / complaints to upcoming things, the Devs no full hand that the beta testers are wrong, right or didn`t see it as something that could be abused (the ladder could be for several reasons, dev testers can be kind to each other and not abuse tactics, the missed it since they didn`t have the same numbers etc), giving this pre- feedback can and will more often then not help devs, the worst is it wasted a few minutes of reading stacked on the counter complaints of reading time but... they get paid for that, although it doesn`t make their job as enjoyable from the way I`m seeing it if I were in there position I would rather have these feedback threads, also it puts an end to the repetitive threads that went up to that point for that thread. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
200
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:25:00 -
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So I spent a couple of hours playing it and competed in the Tourney where I was in the team that came second so my familiarity of Uprising is 100 percent greater than anyone that didn't go to Fanfest. And I wouldn't even presume to give you a full analysis of how it plays.
The sheer number of things that have been tweaked, altered and repaired and how the game 'feels' to play is too many to list here. And the patch notes don't covey that feeling. I must've been the only guy there who skipped checking the weapons and went straight to the corp UI. None of this can be accurately relayed via YouTube video.
But what's even funnier about all this is that the tourney build and the one being used in the demo PS3 were special internal builds! So forming an analysis based on a video of a build that is different from the one your going to playing in 48 hrs is a waste of time. |
Shouper of BHD
Better Hide R Die
86
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:38:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:So I spent a couple of hours playing it and competed in the Tourney where I was in the team that came second so my familiarity of Uprising is 100 percent greater than anyone that didn't go to Fanfest. And I wouldn't even presume to give you a full analysis of how it plays.
The sheer number of things that have been tweaked, altered and repaired and how the game 'feels' to play is too many to list here. And the patch notes don't covey that feeling. I must've been the only guy there who skipped checking the weapons and went straight to the corp UI. None of this can be accurately relayed via YouTube video.
But what's even funnier about all this is that the tourney build and the one being used in the demo PS3 were special internal builds! So forming an analysis based on a video of a build that is different from the one your going to playing in 48 hrs is a waste of time.
I mentioned the same lines of fanfest etc are not the same because [then I said reasons], I understand that, but the patch notes are solid and can only be changed (like PC) by CCP, restating why it is fine for beta testers to do what they are doing would make me a broken record so I`ll just leave my recent comments for that as well. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
571
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:47:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:The sheer number of things that have been tweaked, altered and repaired and how the game 'feels' to play is too many to list here. And the patch notes don't covey that feeling. I must've been the only guy there who skipped checking the weapons and went straight to the corp UI. None of this can be accurately relayed via YouTube video. This is the exact thing that needed to have been said in the patch notes.
The only significant stat change that they mention is the increase in Tac AR damage and reduction to HMG damage and range when the HMG is already outranged by almost every light weapon in the game.
Of course Heavies are going to flip their ****. It looks like almost nothing's been done. |
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