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Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:12:00 -
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hey CCP,
w/ new suits on the way, i noticed all logi "passive" bonuses are a "+1hp to armor repair rate per level". Does that mean once you hit your proto suit you will have a built in +5 armor rep W/O needing a module; or would it be +5 on any armor repair module? |
Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
190
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:14:00 -
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Also are we getting painted yellow to encourage snipers to pick us off first? |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:25:00 -
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Or does it increase the effectiveness of the armor repair tool? o.O |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
357
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:30:00 -
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I'd like to know what this means as well |
Doyle Reese
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:40:00 -
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* Amarr Logistics
* Logistics Suit Bonus: +1 HP to dropsuit armor repair rate per level
* Amarr Logistics Bonus: +5% to efficacy of armor repairer modules per level
Let's use this as an example, from my interpretation, what this means is:
"+1 HP to dropsuit armor repair rate per level" when you use ANY Logistic Suit (any race)
"+5% to efficacy of armor repairer modules per level" when you use Amarr Logistic Suit
EDIT: Reading the post inside the topic! But yeah, I think it means the amount you heal from anything, (ie., enemies using Repair Guns on you and modules) |
Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:41:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Or does it increase the effectiveness of the armor repair tool? o.O
that came to mind; but i quickly dismissed the idea; as then it basically says all logi's must run a repair tool. If look at assault passive skill; it benefits them all w/o a penalty (as "requiring" to use a piece of equipment is a penalty in this case to make use of this bonus) |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
18
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:05:00 -
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If you look at the dropsuit stats, it has a column for 'armor repair rate'.
Almost positive that by matching the terms, it means all logi suits are getting passive armor reps without modules.
The amarr one confuses me a little, however they dont say 'Remote Repair Tools or Equipment" and the term, "Modules" is consistent with passive armor repair modules in the 'dropsuit modules' section of the market.
From what I can see... amarr logis will have passive armor reps without a module, and then if they decide to equip a module on top of that, they will have increased passive reps (not increased reps for repair tools).
Of course this is all conjecture but its what I'm thinking from just matching terms on dropsuits and in the market. |
NeoWraith Acedia
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:09:00 -
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Doyle Reese wrote:...
"+1 HP to dropsuit armor repair rate per level" when you use ANY Logistic Suit (any race)
I read it that way too, so if we're right... then we could get up to 20 HP/S
That's a lot of HP though... |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die
139
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:09:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Or does it increase the effectiveness of the armor repair tool? o.O
Seconded!
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Mark0h
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
5
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:13:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:If you look at the dropsuit stats, it has a column for 'armor repair rate'.
Almost positive that by matching the terms, it means all logi suits are getting passive armor reps without modules.
The amarr one confuses me a little, however they dont say 'Remote Repair Tools or Equipment" and the term, "Modules" is consistent with passive armor repair modules in the 'dropsuit modules' section of the market.
From what I can see... amarr logis will have passive armor reps without a module, and then if they decide to equip a module on top of that, they will have increased passive reps (not increased reps for repair tools).
Of course this is all conjecture but its what I'm thinking from just matching terms on dropsuits and in the market.
>.>? You repair stuff with a repair tool, pretty sure its adding a single point to armor repair per sec to repair tools.
Or I am way wrong and for some reason Logis are getting a core passive +5 Armor hp a sec, which is like having a Complex self armor repair without having to fit one. Plus repair tools arnt Modules, they are Equipment. |
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
24
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:38:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:hey CCP,
w/ new suits on the way, i noticed all logi "passive" bonuses are a "+1hp to armor repair rate per level". Does that mean once you hit your proto suit you will have a built in +5 armor rep W/O needing a module; or would it be +5 on any armor repair module?
it will probably be a bonus to the passive module, so the upper tier (assuming it stays as it is now) will repair 10 hp a second.
a repair tool would be considered a remote module. |
Gersh Raven beta
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
118
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Posted - 2013.05.04 11:27:00 -
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We definitely need an answer on this. the wording is confusing |
Jebus McKing
DUST University
Ivy League
48
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Posted - 2013.05.04 11:38:00 -
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The way I understand it is once you hit level 5 Logi skill you get an inbuilt 5 HP/s armour repper when using a Logi suit. And if you go Amarr Logi every armour repper module you use (NOT equipment) gets an efficacy bonus. So I guess it will be kinda easy for Logis to get a 20 HP/s armour repair rate, which makes armour tanking somewhat useful now compared to shield tanking. |
bcs1a
ROYAL SQUAD
15
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Posted - 2013.05.04 19:22:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Or does it increase the effectiveness of the armor repair tool? o.O
if it works as it does in EvE it will add to the effectiveness of your repair tool.
at least that's how I read it...
o/
Bill |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
358
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:27:00 -
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bcs1a wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Or does it increase the effectiveness of the armor repair tool? o.O if it works as it does in EvE it will add to the effectiveness of your repair tool. at least that's how I read it... o/ Bill
That would be a bonus to remote repairing. That's not how it's written here. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
291
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:32:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Also are we getting painted yellow to encourage snipers to pick us off LAST?
Edit forgot to mention I reall want to know this aswell.
FYP snipers look for points, if you revive someone than its free points to kill them again. and stopping the logi from doing other stuff and standing there in the open. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2677
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:20:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Doyle Reese wrote:...
"+1 HP to dropsuit armor repair rate per level" when you use ANY Logistic Suit (any race)
I read it that way too, so if we're right... then we could get up to 20 HP/S That's a lot of HP though...
I'm pretty sure using a Logi suit will give you the highest-level bonus of any Logi suit you're skilled in, and they won't stack the way you're suggesting. If they DO, awesome, but I doubt it. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
77
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Posted - 2013.05.05 02:50:00 -
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I would like to know if you could stack 4 generic "logi suit bonuses", though that's a huge SP sink. I also think it's unclear if the "logi suit bonus" applies outside the racial variant. If you skilled into Gallente Logistics, what are your logistic suit options outside of Gallente logistics? Militia suits? Because Gallente Medium frames aren't logistics suits. I'm not sure what the point of calling the bonus "logistic suit bonus" is otherwise though - if it is race specific then that's a huge text error. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2677
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:16:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:I would like to know if you could stack 4 generic "logi suit bonuses", though that's a huge SP sink. I also think it's unclear if the "logi suit bonus" applies outside the racial variant. If you skilled into Gallente Logistics, what are your logistic suit options outside of Gallente logistics? Militia suits? Because Gallente Medium frames aren't logistics suits. I'm not sure what the point of calling the bonus "logistic suit bonus" is otherwise though - if it is race specific then that's a huge text error.
It's huge to stack any one or two to level 5, but it's MUCH less huge to stack all of them to level 2 or 3 before maxing out the preferred option, and that will still - if they stack - give you 11 - 14 HP/s regen rate without needing any modules equipped. If they stack like this, I'm definitely going Logi-crazy. While also saying, "yeah they're OP. That's why I AM one". |
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