DUST Search - [PLEASE READ] How to stop the criticism

Veiny Throbbing Joystick wrote:

1. Just officially acknowledge the problems, address the issues

It is a really important period for Dust and CCP. We have the birthday of EVE and the DUST514 public release. Everyone is super excited about both and we are voicing our concerns on Dust, to make them better, to make them ours.

I can feel your building PR for the new build and new contents, and that is good!

I can also see your good intention when you try to balance our classes or weapons, and that is good as well!

What it is not good or helpful is what is happening in the forum right now: a lack of CCP acknowledgement of the issues and response to the threads pointing out the issues. We need your response, we need to know you are listening, we need to know you are aware of the problems. Through your breadcrumb communications it is impossible to tell if you ever listens, or even aware of the issues that we are pointing out. It will make it difficult for us to track your progress with your lack of communication and your selective attention to problems.

Thank you for understanding.

PS Not trolling. I really wish CCP become more active in these forums other than making a GM deflecting the problems and make our concerns fall into deaf ears.

TLDR: Need more communication from CCP answering questions and problems.

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Veiny Throbbing Joystick Intara Direct Action Caldari State 45	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:00:00 - [1] - Quote 1. Just officially acknowledge the problems, address the issues It is a really important period for Dust and CCP. We have the birthday of EVE and the DUST514 public release. Everyone is super excited about both and we are voicing our concerns on Dust, to make them better, to make them ours. I can feel your building PR for the new build and new contents, and that is good! I can also see your good intention when you try to balance our classes or weapons, and that is good as well! What it is not good or helpful is what is happening in the forum right now: a lack of CCP acknowledgement of the issues and response to the threads pointing out the issues. We need your response, we need to know you are listening, we need to know you are aware of the problems. Through your breadcrumb communications it is impossible to tell if you ever listens, or even aware of the issues that we are pointing out. It will make it difficult for us to track your progress with your lack of communication and your selective attention to problems. Thank you for understanding. PS Not trolling. I really wish CCP become more active in these forums other than making a GM deflecting the problems and make our concerns fall into deaf ears. TLDR: Need more communication from CCP answering questions and problems.
Veiny Throbbing Joystick Intara Direct Action Caldari State 45	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:04:00 - [2] - Quote I suggest pinning a megathread on the top for each hot topic on the forums, and have CCP respond in it. This will kill the spam threads, also we can be sure that CCP is on track of our concerns.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 107	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:07:00 - [3] - Quote Or they could just let all the whiny self-centered brats QQ and not spend a lot of time and money of the forums compared to developing the game?
Veiny Throbbing Joystick Intara Direct Action Caldari State 45	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:09:00 - [4] - Quote Here are two topics that CCP urgently needs to address: 1. CCP's opinion on Afk farming 2. Heavies getting nerfed being opposed by many It doesn't need to be a solution, it can be an explanation, or something, anything, but CCP cannot be silent on the issues. Do not ignore your player base. Do not try to pretend there isn't a problem. You cannot ignore the problems away.
Veiny Throbbing Joystick Intara Direct Action Caldari State 45	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:14:00 - [5] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Or they could just let all the whiny self-centered brats QQ and not spend a lot of time and money of the forums compared to developing the game? Because unwavering faith in one set of ideology is dangerous and polarizing. This applies to politics, race, religion, etc. At the exclusion of all others, if you think your way is the only way, and have no open mind for other opinions, then your xenophobic and hateful views will only seek to oppress those who are different from you. Think **** and the *** vs. Jews, homosexuals, foreigners, etc. Unless you were what they considered to be in their ideal and conform to their specification, you were rounded up and shipped off to die.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 170	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:30:00 - [6] - Quote Veiny Throbbing Joystick wrote: 1. Just officially acknowledge the problems, address the issues It is a really important period for Dust and CCP. We have the birthday of EVE and the DUST514 public release. Everyone is super excited about both and we are voicing our concerns on Dust, to make them better, to make them ours. I can feel your building PR for the new build and new contents, and that is good! I can also see your good intention when you try to balance our classes or weapons, and that is good as well! What it is not good or helpful is what is happening in the forum right now: a lack of CCP acknowledgement of the issues and response to the threads pointing out the issues. We need your response, we need to know you are listening, we need to know you are aware of the problems. Through your breadcrumb communications it is impossible to tell if you ever listens, or even aware of the issues that we are pointing out. It will make it difficult for us to track your progress with your lack of communication and your selective attention to problems. Thank you for understanding. PS Not trolling. I really wish CCP become more active in these forums other than making a GM deflecting the problems and make our concerns fall into deaf ears. TLDR: Need more communication from CCP answering questions and problems. Thank you for a post I can support. I to would like to hear some feedback on what people are worried about. If these threads are correct and the HAV are totally useless I will Support a buff but if they are just a tweak to cause more dependence on support infantry then I like the changes. Heavy Machine guns were hitting at extreme ranges as with AR and a rang nerf was needed but I do like the idea of a sharp shooter skill for each weapon. I like hardcore games that offer variety and this variety causes tears but is needed. Maybe a 2% increase per level would be fun. I run a logi suit and a heavy sometimes. I am not happy about full release without a full lineup of suits but if this game doesn't drop soon then it will end up being old code in the back of the eve server. We have to give to get and this time heavy suits had to wait I understand frustration on the subject and I feel it will be corrected in time but we have to give them time. Lastly, if I worked for CCP and then read these threads I would not post either. Every other thread is a post describing how they are inept game developers, the game will fail and that they play favorites. Imagine for 5 minutes what it would be like if millions of people judged your work while it was leas than half complete and could give instant feedback without having a finished product or finalized specs
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 110	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:31:00 - [7] - Quote Veiny Throbbing Joystick wrote: Because unwavering faith in one set of ideology is dangerous and polarizing. This applies to politics, race, religion, etc. At the exclusion of all others, if you think your way is the only way, and have no open mind for other opinions, then your xenophobic and hateful views will only seek to oppress those who are different from you. Think **** and the *** vs. Jews, homosexuals, foreigners, etc. Unless you were what they considered to be in their ideal and conform to their specification, you were rounded up and shipped off to die. What on earth are you smoking? Perhaps, just perhaps, we could play a few games under the new setup before complaining about it. No amount of complaining today will change what is going to happen early next week. Seriously, some of you guys need to get a grip. If, and only if, after playing there turns out to be some statistical concern that matches all the QQing then I imagine CCP will do something about it. A bunch of whiners complaining before they even know what the balance is like, right before launch, is just stupid. However, carry on. If you want to harbor a persecution complex I'll certainly not be the one to stop you.
Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 332	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:36:00 - [8] - Quote Can you please stop posting? Your posts look like they were birthed out of Regnum's and Mr Zitro's past posts....
Veiny Throbbing Joystick Intara Direct Action Caldari State 48	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:44:00 - [9] - Quote Polish Hammer wrote: Can you please stop posting? Your posts look like they were birthed out of Regnum's and Mr Zitro's past posts.... Thanks for thinking of me so highly. I assure you I always do my best.
Polish Hammer Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy 332	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:46:00 - [10] - Quote Veiny Throbbing Joystick wrote: Polish Hammer wrote: Can you please stop posting? Your posts look like they were birthed out of Regnum's and Mr Zitro's past posts.... Thanks for thinking of me so highly. I assure you I always do my best. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Veiny Throbbing Joystick Intara Direct Action Caldari State 52	Posted - 2013.05.04 09:08:00 - [11] - Quote Relevant stuff CCP must not ignore their community anymore Devs must respond to the concerns
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 137	Posted - 2013.05.04 09:11:00 - [12] - Quote Veiny Throbbing Joystick wrote: Relevant stuff CCP must not ignore their community anymore Devs must respond to the concerns Why do they have to? It's just a bunch of people crying about them not being superior anymore.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 425	Posted - 2013.05.04 09:12:00 - [13] - Quote Patch notes gave information, but more unanswered questions. As an online gamer, I find it very rare to see patch notes that don't contain footers from the devs on the intention of specific patches/nerfs and a game mechanic's new intended role after said patch/nerf.
Natu Nobilis Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 172	Posted - 2013.05.04 09:20:00 - [14] - Quote 1 - Criticism will ALWAYS be present. The thing is, they want PRODUCTIVE criticism (Plese pay attention to Feature X making Gameplayelement Y unabalanced) instead of a wave of posts saying "You suck CCP, this game will flunk and i-¦m abandoning ship because now item x is useless. 2 - How the hell can they answer the community? They-¦re working for the expansion LAUNCH! They-¦re quite busy. And even if they weren-¦t, they would reply WHAT to the community? "Play the game and if we find unbalance in our measures, we-¦ll change stuff, like always" 3 - I come to the forum to read people with more knowledge than me making analysis, discussing features, perspectives and for fun. It-¦s frustrating not only as aplayer seeking knowledge, but as a human being, to see the ammount of ignorant / ill faithed / infiltrated saboteurs posting trying to ruin the experience of something that haven-¦t been even launched yet! Not only there are the whinny players used to be spoonfed, but there are also rival companies i here that want the game to fail, and pay $.50 or more per post do distrupt things. CCP is super chill with forum moderation, but things are reaching a level where it wouldbe easier to simply create one single post to concentrate all the complaints about a subject, and close the ones that are created outside it. Make the forums usefull people, not a place where people don-¦t want to come to seek usefull information.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 265	Posted - 2013.05.04 09:22:00 - [15] - Quote Or, radical thinking I know, everyone could actually try playing Uprising for a few days before passing judgment - theorycrafting is a notoriously unreliable profession because people will always overlook something really important. (Such as the flattening of ISK and SP costs across all dropsuits and weapons, including heavies and assaults)
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 339	Posted - 2013.05.04 10:08:00 - [16] - Quote Or wait to play game yourself and then whine. You know... in like... less than 48 hours...
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 396	Posted - 2013.05.04 11:05:00 - [17] - Quote Veiny Throbbing Joystick wrote: -- about how a Kitten would run a company if Kitten had a company to run -- You expect to be taken seriously with that ... uh, name?
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 113	Posted - 2013.05.04 11:11:00 - [18] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: You expect to be taken seriously with that ... uh, name? He seems to generally be a troll alt. Yes, yes, I know, I'm captain obvious.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 30	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:17:00 - [19] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: KalOfTheRathi wrote: You expect to be taken seriously with that ... uh, name? He seems to generally be a troll alt. Yes, yes, I know, I'm captain obvious. He does seem to be the new Regnum PR. I tend to ignore his posts, but I thought this one might be constructive. I was wrong again..
SUGAR-BOO-BOO Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.05.04 15:54:00 - [20] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: QQing You really need to stop using this phrase in every post. It's rather effeminate of you.



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