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Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:05:00 -
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Like the HAV truce, I'm proposing a heavy truce. I once enjoyed facing other heavies, but as a sign of protest, let's not shoot each other.
Give a red dot heavy a bro fist, and continue on your way. |
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:10:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:And as you two "bro fist" I'm running both of you over in a MLT LAV.
Not if the mountain camping tanks get you first |
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:11:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Yeah, heavies should be killing anyone that isn't also a heavy, screw those logistics guys, right?
Nah screw logis. They should hide when a red dot heavy shows up to brofist |
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:26:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Sign me under Sloth9230, but only while I'm in a heavy suit
lol... mistakes happen. |
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:39:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Like the HAV truce, I'm proposing a heavy truce. I once enjoyed facing other heavies, but as a sign of protest, let's not shoot each other. Give a red dot heavy a bro fist, and continue on your way. Of course, if a heavy fires on you, don't just stand there and take it lol Signed the Truce:Polish Hammer 100 proof Hollow M Ling Lance 2ballzStrong I refuse and will enjoy gunning you all down ;) Gotta enjoy being somewhat effective while I can! <3
Being effective... you mean now in this build? Yea!
We gotta see how effective we are in Uprising |
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:42:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:I'm sorry but I can't do this
Gotta do what you gotta do what you gotta do.
In all seriousness though, in the heat of battle I don't think heavies would be able to distinguish anyway. This is more for lulz and comradery than anything.
The heavies going into Uprising I give them props. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 00:01:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:The truce would help HAV tankers out - they're expensive fortresses that pwn one another for us infantry. But heavies? You'll not have it so easy being none agressive to a heavy who'll potentially own your team mates. ... sounds great for a pub actually...
Ok I changed the wording and meaning of the thread. I honestly didn't expect people to sign lol |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 00:10:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:Exmaple Core wrote: i regret to say that i am not going heavy. As much as i loved the class and chasing ppl down, shooting them in the back as they run in fear and walking over who stay i want to win at the game. Not going assult cuz its OP but not ethire of the classes. I wish you luck my heavy bretheren! KILL ALL OF THEM!!! <3 <3
butbutbutbutbutbut ....YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!
Yea we're sad Maple won't be heavy with us... he's moved on to a better place |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 00:24:00 -
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flesth wrote:I have to think about this, if every heavies do it, then fair to say i will, i let you know
Sign to protest the HMG over nerf.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 00:33:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:flesth wrote:I have to think about this, if every heavies do it, then fair to say i will, i let you know Sign to protest the HMG over nerf. Sorry, not signing this either. CCP has numbers of where and what weapon kills what suit where carrying what and decided the information lead to this. I'm going to see where it goes with everything else before hopping aboard this train. I have high hopes LLAV's fix on healing is going to turn us into slayers of fear like in the past.
You're an optimistic one. Sadly I'm not. I'm a cynical pessimist. Heavies got nerfed every build. I understand why a range nerf, I understand no SS skill, I don't understand the dmg nerf however.
You can't take away range, and take away dmg the same time and call that balance.
I said I'll wait and see come Uprising, and I am. I'm only going off what they said in the patch notes. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 00:38:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:DSTDH.
At least if this nerf is as bad as it sounds, then the only way to go is up.
Every build has seen a heavy nerf... don't know when this "up" might come, if it ever |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 00:46:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: You can't take away range, and take away dmg the same time and call that balance.
*Two weeks later* CCP guy 1: Everyone on the forums keeps saying HMGs suck now CCP guy 2: Do you think it was the range or damage nerf? CCP guy 1: I don't know CCP guy 2: What do you mean you "don't know"? CCP guy 1: Well, we nerfed both at the same time... so we didn't get to see what would happen if we only nerfed one CCP guy 2: So how do we fix this then? CCP guy 3: increase ROF? *gets backhanded* CCP guy 4: Ehh, they're just heavies, who cares.
lol |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 00:57:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:DS 10 wrote:DSTDH.
At least if this nerf is as bad as it sounds, then the only way to go is up. Every build has seen a heavy nerf... don't know when this "up" might come, if it ever I think the statistics are terribly skewed by players running super cheap suits to maximize ISK gain. Of course heavies are going to shred these guys. It probably doesn't help that anytime you kill someone with a HMG they go cry on the forums about how they lost a 1v1 and they shouldn't have.
Yip.
This was pointed out months ago, but i guess CCP ignored that feedback.
std heavy >>>> std assault
Adv heavy > adv assault
Proto assault >>>>>>>>>>>Proto heavy
Anyway man, these things were pointed out way back when, and CCP ignored it, so it's a wait and see game atm. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 01:28:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: You can't take away range, and take away dmg the same time and call that balance.
*Two weeks later* CCP guy 1: Everyone on the forums keeps saying HMGs suck now CCP guy 2: Do you think it was the range or damage nerf? CCP guy 1: I don't know CCP guy 2: What do you mean you "don't know"? CCP guy 1: Well, we nerfed both at the same time... so we didn't get to see what would happen if we only nerfed one CCP guy 2: So how do we fix this then? CCP guy 3: increase ROF? *gets backhanded* CCP guy 4: Ehh, they're just heavies, who cares? Ccp guy 1: wait so your telling me the heavy has more base health but does less dmg at less range? That doesnt sound too bad.... Ccp guy 2: well yes. We buffed the health by like 75 so now they can take more dmg. Ccp guy 1: wait..... 75? Thats like.... 2 shots from a duvolle.... wtf is that supposed to do? Ccp guy 2: like I said dont worry. The assault players fund this game.... beaides they will prob come onto the forums and QQ about heavies having too much health.... Ccp guy 1: do you think we should tell them about the spool time shdbxien ed ichdnsixjbd Ccp guy 2: wtf happened? Ccp guy 3: ccp guy 1 has been reprimanded... I smashed his face into the keyboard to remind him we only only release certain information....
I'm liking this little skit...sounds like it's based on a true story |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 01:55:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:OP 5-6 Heavies a game is dead breed huh? Everybody get your swimming trunks on yet another Heavy cry thread!!! They were just content yesterday how they finally got their buff but wait of course that's not enough. They need more health more damage and jet packs with fireball breath that does 5k splash with 30M splash range. Lol let's swim in the heavy tears!
Would love to see these 5-6 heavies a game you speak of. Probably 2-3... if you're lucky, and probably terrible heavies too. Usually you see heavies in Type 2 suit also...so lol. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 02:08:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:OP 5-6 Heavies a game is dead breed huh? Everybody get your swimming trunks on yet another Heavy cry thread!!! They were just content yesterday how they finally got their buff but wait of course that's not enough. They need more health more damage and jet packs with fireball breath that does 5k splash with 30M splash range. Lol let's swim in the heavy tears! Would love to see these 5-6 heavies a game you speak of. Probably 2-3... if you're lucky, and probably terrible heavies too. Usually you see heavies in Type 2 suit also...so lol. Lol, yes you are right only 2 heavies a game LMFAO get good fatboy.
How about you get good enough to start in a 8v8 game for PFBHz against a good team?
I like how you're an avg player, yet act like you're the ****. Kid, you're nothing special. Don't come here be all arrogant cuz of the tag you have
Btw, telling people "get good" is a weak troll...even by DUST forum standard. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 02:35:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Must be nice living in lala land. You speak as if you know the situation with me. Yet you know NOTHING. I will let you keep thinking you are something great and I am just this nobody who sucks at dust yet maintains membership in a top corp :)
I didn't say I was great, nor did I say "get good"... so I don't know where you get I'm great... but since you said it, thanks!
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Posted - 2013.05.04 02:58:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I love you heavies bc we have a common enemy: the AR -toting cod bois. Luckily they'll be gone when blops 3 comes out. +1
haha |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:37:00 -
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I sense a thread lock coming due to being way off topic... |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:00:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:You are aware that this kind of thread does not give any valid feedback on anything right? :P
lolfeedback
We gave feedback threads in the correct section of the forums on numerous occasions for a couple months. Not QQ threads, but actual feedback.
CCP went and nerf the DMG, and range of the HMG lol.
Hey, good times. Not even mad at this point, just amazed
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:09:00 -
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At least Proto suits aren't 250k anymore |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:18:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:You still updating the list of names?
yea, trying to. I know i'm missing a couple atm.
Edit: Updated |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:42:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:You still updating the list of names? yea, trying to. I know i'm missing a couple atm. Edit: Updated HEY! heavy RIGHT here!
haha sowy
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:44:00 -
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Mark0h wrote:Can I partially sign on? Heavy is my secondary role, and who doesn't like smoking fatties as a fatty?
if you're against the HMG nerf, yes. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:46:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:You still updating the list of names? yea, trying to. I know i'm missing a couple atm. Edit: Updated My name is still not there? general Tiberius1 and I are not the same person.
aright, done |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:59:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:I would prefer they stuck to looking at game habits and statistics instead of going off of a heart wrenching feels post.
All this qq is a bit too early. Should be saved until a few days after May 6th.
Going off patch notes. A nerf is a nerf, don't matter how people try to spin it, or to convince others to play the build before expressing an opinion.
It's the General Discussion sub forum, so we are discussing what the patch notes said about reduced range, and reduced damage on the HMG.
Opinions aren't meant to be facts, but rather an expression of what one is thinking about a situation. QQ or not, people have a right to express their opinion. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:07:00 -
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Don Von Hulio wrote:The notes are so vague though lol And you know, the patch list most likely doesnt even list all the changes because they became tired of typing it out or like watching people jump to conclusions as they clench for the worst. just found this and lol'd thinking about today
Reduced range, and reduced damage on HMG
Seems straight forward to me. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:14:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Don Von Hulio wrote:The notes are so vague though lol And you know, the patch list most likely doesnt even list all the changes because they became tired of typing it out or like watching people jump to conclusions as they clench for the worst. just found this and lol'd thinking about today Reduced range, and reduced damage on HMG Seems straight forward to me. You have to agree, I mean the range nerf was okay but the damage nerf was not needed
agreed. Especially when most complained about the range. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:43:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:lol AR got pretty much the same nerf but the cost of our weapon didn't decrease. :/ I thought most people agreed the HMG was OP anyways. You still have 1k hp now your suites cost the same as assaults.
who's talking about suits? What does HP have to do with HMG?
Really? i didn't see in the patch notes "Reduced Assault rifle range, Reduced Assault Rifle damage." In fact Tact. AR got a buff...so yeeeaaah.
If we DID see that, there would be a ton of threads. AR's didn't get sharpshooter... no mention of AR range nerf. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:58:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:we havn't even seen the numbers on the buffs yet. Heavies currently are able to kill 2 people easily in a 2v1 engagement with that being justified by their price tag. CCP reduced the cost to the same amount as the assault therefore reduced their effectiveness.
I don't know what numbers have to do with with the wording.
Nerfs = Reduced (...)
Buffs = Increased (...)
2v1? Standard suits, yes. A proto heavy has to do a damn fine job to 1v1 a proto assault. Not saying it's impossible, but it's less likely.
I don't see what pricing has to do with anything I'm talking about. They buffed the Tact. AR, does that mean you should pay more for it? |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:10:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:It depends on the distance however in mid to cqc heavies take it over assaults. The stream of death from HMG is instant if you aim good.
their are a lot of heavies that i know if I enter CQC with I have no chance of surviving because i'll have to reload to kill them.
Also you can't expect the cost of the weapon the come down dramatically without the stats following. I also imagine CCP has the numbers to back up these alterations to the HMG.
I can tell you have never played as a heavy in a competitive match.
Proto Assault >>>>> Proto heavy
^ this topic was discussed for a loooong time. In a perfect world with perfect balance that should not be the case in CQC, but it was.
So now they nerfed the dmg, so that balance, has not changed.
You argument about cost is flawed...please. If that logic was correct, then the Proto Heavy suit is suppose to cost more than 250k, since it got 75hp more.
So they reduced the price to lower the damage? That's what you're saying? Then why hasn't the price of suits gone up.
CCP don't work with numbers, they work with QQ threads on the forums. Assault players cried about it for months, so heavies decided to cry about a buff for months. Seems the Assault criers won this battle. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:20:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:
Still doesn't justify the dmg and range nerf.
One or the other, but ******* up both ****s up the balance. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:34:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Deluxe Edition wrote:It depends on the distance however in mid to cqc heavies take it over assaults. The stream of death from HMG is instant if you aim good.
their are a lot of heavies that i know if I enter CQC with I have no chance of surviving because i'll have to reload to kill them.
Also you can't expect the cost of the weapon the come down dramatically without the stats following. I also imagine CCP has the numbers to back up these alterations to the HMG. I can tell you have never played as a heavy in a competitive match. Proto Assault >>>>> Proto heavy ^ this topic was discussed for a loooong time. In a perfect world with perfect balance that should not be the case in CQC, but it was. So now they nerfed the dmg, so that balance, has not changed. You argument about cost is flawed...please. If that logic was correct, then the Proto Heavy suit is suppose to cost more than 250k, since it got 75hp more. So they reduced the price to lower the damage? That's what you're saying? Then why hasn't the price of suits gone up. CCP don't work with numbers, they work with QQ threads on the forums. Assault players cried about it for months, so heavies decided to cry about a buff for months. Seems the Assault criers won this battle. ..... I've played a lot of heaviesm and I know the good ones who can aim at a strafing player melts assault players, unless the heavy is giving away frees headshots (LOL @ Crouching heavies). The heavies I play who actually strafe take usually take more than a clip to kill and I've seen heavies fire continuously through 2 of my AR clips.
The problem is not aiming... the problem was shooting spitballs. I don't know where your argument is going anymore, or if you even still have one. If you played as a heavy against good players you'll know where I'm coming. As it is, you sound like you played allot of pubs with a heavy...which is lol.
Every heavy can mow down std / mil suits all day long without a sweat in pub games. The problem was seen at a competitive level where the Proto heavy suits were borderline useless and the HMG struggles to kill a shield tanked assault player shooting at you with 3+ dmg mods. The only thing I can say we had on our side was the range we had when invested in SS... that people cried over.
The dmg of an HMG was over rated, simply cuz people didn't take into consideration the bullet spread. DPS DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BULLET SPREAD. Even if you're aiming at someone, you're missing.
So the numbers are meaningless. If the HMG had a tighter spread, then maybe I can go along with the dmg nerf. But there's no mention of that. So as far as I can see, the suit got slightly better, it got cheaper, but our bread and butter got nerfed.
I don't see the justification of it. Again, my problem is nerfing both at the same time.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:41:00 -
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:[a shield tanked assault player shooting at you with 3+ dmg mods. Sorry Lance, but I must point out that that's impossible ATM. Those incoming Caldari Logis though...
lol yea i was in 2 minds there |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:45:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:cool, a list of CoD kids thinking they should be able to kill everything from accross the map with the HMG proto HMG has an optimal range of 40m proto AR has an optimal range of 39m HMG low range? cool story bro if you want to see what is low range, try out the SMG, 15m optimal range. that is low range.
lol... good one. Optimal range? You probably talking about the Assault HMG... yeeeaaah nobody uses that for a reason, it sucks.
If you knew anything, lol, then you would know at range the HMG tickles...BULLET SPREAD.
Didn't know that? well you learn something new everyday
Oh, I like how you bring up CoD kids, when the majority of players in this game uses the assault suit with assault rifles...
Didn't realize CoD had a heavy class with an HMG in it |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 07:55:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Jack McReady wrote:cool, a list of CoD kids thinking they should be able to kill everything from accross the map with the HMG proto HMG has an optimal range of 40m proto AR has an optimal range of 39m HMG low range? cool story bro if you want to see what is low range, try out the SMG, 15m optimal range. that is low range. lol... good one. Optimal range? You probably talking about the Assault HMG... yeeeaaah nobody uses that for a reason, it sucks. If you knew anything, lol, then you would know at range the HMG tickles...BULLET SPREAD. Didn't know that? well you learn something new everyday perfect example of someone with no clue that wants HMG kill stuff accross the map HMG is not supposed to kill people accross the map. and no, 40m is the range of the regular proto HMG...
What are you trying to say?
I never said it was suppose to kill across the map... where did i say that? I admitted that WITH SHARPSHOOTER the range was decent. But you didn't read and understand. I see that's a recurring theme on this forum.
Do you even understand what the nerf is? The nerf is base range and base dmg. Meaning HMG range WITHOUT Sharpshooter, in addition to a nerf to the damage.
If you would read, and indeed understood what I was saying, you would have seen my problem was with nerfing BOTH at the same time.
Nerfing one or the other would have been far better than gimping the weapon like that.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 08:22:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Your numbers is not taking into consideration bullet spread, so it's meaningless. because the HMG is not more accurate the longer it fires. because the HMG is meant to touch th AR domain. oh wait. anyway, you will still do more damage than anyone up close, what is your point again? the heavy receives an isk buff, which means, it will now cost the same as everything else. you will still deal the most damage in your domain aka close range area denial and still be the toughest out of everyone and it costs you the same amount of isk. or do you suggest that you should get more then everyone else when you pay the same amount of isk? *quickedit* btw, not the optimal range will be reduced. the max range aka falloff will be reduced... optimal will be the same as it was.
Lol...another misconception about accuracy increasing the longer it fires. It takes a while to get accurate yes, but not the longer you fire = more accuracy. The longer you fire, the more recoil you start to get.
I don't know where you're getting my presumptions from. All I said was nerfing both range and dmg was a bad idea and here you're asking if I want to pay something same amount of ISK for something... ???
Well considering CCP didn't say if it was max range or optimal range, you're making stuff up.
Again, I'm just going by what I read. What I read suggests range in general, optimal, and max.
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Posted - 2013.05.04 08:55:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Well considering CCP didn't say if it was max range or optimal range, you're making stuff up.
read patch notes and yes, everything has to do with isk. welcome to new eden. you are not supposed to get more from less isk than everyone else.
I misread patchnote...guess seeing "reduced range and dmg" is all that matters. Still can't justify nerfing both the same time.
So you're saying currently my 250K proto suit means I have a tank? Pretty sure it has the same stats as a B- series.
So it's alright if my suit is over priced, but all of a sudden it's "you are not supposed to get more from less isk than everyone else"... double standards.
Again, using price as logic fails. They added 75 more HP to the suit, so that means my suit SHOULD cost 250K++ right? Your logic says I'm not suppose to get more for less ISK.
I still say, range and dmg nerf was overkill
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Posted - 2013.05.04 11:07:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:Some people just don't understand what the role of a heavy is. You are not slayers, you are bullet sponges, tanks, distraction, the ones who supress, the ones who take the damage while the killers do the killing, if my word is not enough, go ahead and pay a visit to the class description. Wait untill you play the build and judge afterwards if you are underpowered or not. And also, thanks for calling me a noob, I love you too. Adapt or die.
I stopped reading when you said "distractions".
Sorry, but any class that is classified as a "distraction" is a joke.
WP = ISK. No kills, no WP... distracting enemies has no WP.
I'm entertaining this comment cuz it's one of the funniest things I've read so far. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 11:21:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: I stopped reading when you said "distractions".
Sorry, but any class that is classified as a "distraction" is a joke.
WP = ISK. No kills, no WP... distracting enemies has no WP.
I'm entertaining this comment cuz it's one of the funniest things I've read so far.
I am glad you are "entertaining" this comment even though I don't know how you actually do that. Maybe its your bad grammar. Either ways, you obviously have never heard of the role tank on an MMO, right? Low to medium damage, able to take a beating while the DPS does the damage dealing. But since you have no experience in that, let me pull out wikipedia for you, maybe you can get a little educated.
Lol...compares an MMO on PC to a FPS on console, and calls it balance. GG
You can't compare 2 games, 2 different genres at that, and justify the balancing. The mere fact that you call a class a distraction shows how much of a joke you think the class is.
You didn't answer me about how are we suppose to get WP? We get nothing for suppression, loldistracting.
May as well put heavies out there wearing a clowns hat. Why bother with an HMG? If we're not suppose to kill, give us a weapon that does NO damage to armor
Also, please quote me where I called you a "noob". |
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Ric Barlom wrote:I'm gonna drop this "R Bomb" here too as it managed to calm down the heated emotions in one of the other heavy threads too. Courtesy of yours truly.
Please don't copy / paste a wall of txt like that from one thread to another... I mean, i saw it in the other thread, and answered. No need to paste it here again
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Deranged Disaster wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Lol...compares an MMO on PC to a FPS on console, and calls it balance. GG You can't compare 2 games, 2 different genres at that, and justify the balancing. The mere fact that you call a class a distraction shows how much of a joke you think the class is. You didn't answer me about how are we suppose to get WP? We get nothing for suppression, loldistracting. May as well put heavies out there wearing a clowns hat. Why bother with an HMG? If we're not suppose to kill, give us a weapon that does NO damage to armor Also, please quote me where I called you a "noob". You didn't call me noob, I saw someone that did so I put it up there, don't be so sensitive. Again, MMO is an MMO no matter where it plays. The moment this game launched as a tactical based MMOfps it was bound to have classes and roles and your role is to take damage. You can make hybrids by putting damage modifiers on for larger damage output in order to get "WP" even though I don't believe that a teamplayer cares more about WP instead of winning, showing me how much you love your team. And about that clown hat, consider wearing it. Your "constructive" feedback cannot be taken seriously so might aswell get something nice out of it.
Hold up. This is a FPS, first and foremost. First Person Shooter. Everyone sees this and it is recognized as this. Yes it's also an MMO, but people not gonna see gameplay and say "Hey, that's a nice MMO!" It's a shooter.
Dmg mods on a heavy suit... riiiight. The new suit has 1 highslot.
In corp battles I don't care about WP, but in pubs WP = ISK = supporting myself.
lol...telling me about being a teamplayer. You even know WHY I'm a heavy? You even know how many roles I played in the beta? You even know how many corp battles i was in?
I'm a heavy cuz my team needed a heavy. I was the generic assault player running around with his AR. We need a heavy, and here I am. During the beta I tried every role minus vehicles, so I know a thing or two about roles and their purpose.
Who said this was ever about feedback??? Where did I ever say that??? You even read the title of the thread?! Where does it say i'm giving feedback?
Not sure if serious at this point, cuz yeaaah. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 11:57:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Hold up. This is a FPS, first and foremost. First Person Shooter. Everyone sees this and it is recognized as this. Yes it's also an MMO, but people not gonna see gameplay and say "Hey, that's a nice MMO!" It's a shooter.
Dmg mods on a heavy suit... riiiight. The new suit has 1 highslot.
In corp battles I don't care about WP, but in pubs WP = ISK = supporting myself.
lol...telling me about being a teamplayer. You even know WHY I'm a heavy? You even know how many roles I played in the beta? You even know how many corp battles i was in?
I'm a heavy cuz my team needed a heavy. I was the generic assault player running around with his AR. We need a heavy, and here I am. During the beta I tried every role minus vehicles, so I know a thing or two about roles and their purpose.
Who said this was ever about feedback??? Where did I ever say that??? You even read the title of the thread?! Where does it say i'm giving feedback?
Not sure if serious at this point, cuz yeaaah. I can't bother with you anymore, you are arguing for the sake of arguing not for making the game better. So here's an advice. If you want to kill, pick a slayer class. Also, adapt or die. Corp battles don't make you a teamplayer by the way.
I posted in the actual Feedback section on a number of times about real issues with the heavy suits, so have a number of other heavies, and CCP listened. They lowered the price of the proto suit. So please, don't tell me about leaving feedback, I've done that. This thread was NEVER about feedback, hence it's in the General Discussion, so people can discuss...derp.
You can't tell me about being a teamplayer, you don't know me. You have never fought against me, or with me. Before today you probably never even heard of me. So keep your "advice" to yourself
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Posted - 2013.05.04 12:04:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I posted in the actual Feedback section on a number of times about real issues with the heavy suits, so have a number of other heavies, and CCP listened. They lowered the price of the proto suit. So please, don't tell me about leaving feedback, I've done that. This thread was NEVER about feedback, hence it's in the General Discussion, so people can discuss...derp. You can't tell me about being a teamplayer, you don't know me. You have never fought against me, or with me. Before today you probably never even heard of me. So keep your "advice" to yourself Your posts proves how true my previous post was.
lol you're still here? surprise, surprise.
Your post had no point btw, so unless you tell us your point, you've just made another pointless post. Borderline spam tbh |
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Deranged Disaster wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:lol you're still here? surprise, surprise. Your post had no point btw, so unless you tell us your point, you've just made another pointless post. Borderline spam tbh I thought this thread was pointless spam?
Nope. Giving people an outlet to express their disapproval in one thread. Even people who are against heavies. i never told you your input was worthless, or anything. You got to express fully what you wanted to say.
And heavies can protest here, and not create a bunch of threads. |
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I never expected so many people to sign. Tbh, I thought a GM would lock the thread by now.
Brofist to all that signed, INCLUDING the none heavies. |
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Posted - 2013.05.04 12:30:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:Guess i will 'sign' this to get lance off my back.
<3 |
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Acnologia X wrote:dammit was planning to go back and play dust on uprising but after this nerf am having second thoughts signed
I may not agree with the nerf, but I'll play heavy in Uprising and see how it is. Even if it's bad, as someone said earlier "I won't go down without a fight" |
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NeoWraith Acedia wrote:Deranged Disaster wrote:Some people just don't understand what the role of a heavy is. You are not slayers, you are bullet sponges, tanks, distraction, the ones who supress, the ones who take the damage while the killers do the killing, if my word is not enough, go ahead and pay a visit to the class description. Wait untill you play the build and judge afterwards if you are underpowered or not. And also, thanks for calling me a noob, I love you too. Adapt or die. never did answer Lance's question about what heavies are supposed to do to gain ISK. I'll tell you what they're supposed to do, they're supposed to kill, they're supposed to stay at objectives and kill anyone who gets near them. Sure, every now and then you'll get some wannabe rambo mofo who thinks he's just a better assault, but those aren't good heavies, good heavies know their role. their role? It's what people in other games refer to as "campers" lol distractions? GTFOH
lol distractions...
I like your description, with the emphasis on KILL haha
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:30:00 -
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Updated the new names.
Thanks for the continued support |
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Posted - 2013.05.05 17:41:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Still don't see my name on the list.
I do not support the heavy nerf.
Your name is 4th from the bottom. |
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Posted - 2013.05.06 14:14:00 -
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Jal R wrote:Damn, 14 pages, I'd thought this topic would've been swept under the rug by now.
You guys have got to wait til Uprising is out before you make judgements on the change of the HMG. For all you know, with the removal of Sharpshooter, the new skill that increases weapon accuracy at longer range may have been too op for HMG's not to suffer a DPS nerf.
As if complaining about it before the fact would change CCP's minds anyway.
See you on the battlefield fellow heavies and don't think for a second that I'll hold fire for a fellow heavy ;)
we don't get a skill to improve accuracy. AR's and SMG's gets a skill to reduce bullet spread...aka the new Sharp Shooter. |
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Lynn Beck wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:is there a chat room for this? i need itt me too please.
Should I create a chat room for this? It's just a sign of protest. DS (the drunk heavy) has a channel he wants to start up called "Heavies" where heavies can go and talk about fits and what not. If anything people can bounce ideas off each other in there.
Possibly get enough info from people to post actual feedback for CCP to take into consideration. |
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Posted - 2013.05.06 22:48:00 -
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Updated. Thanks for putting your name down. |
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Updated guys. Thank you. |
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exolden shadovar wrote:Proto sentinal heavy and I can't do **** after the nerf.....signed
Ouch... I only upgraded the basic heavy to Proto, and have proto HMG's. Played 3-4 games with the heavy, then took the rest of my SP and made an Amarr medium suit.
Having ALLOT more fun with that suit...sadly. Less SP spent, but tons more fun. It saddens me tbh. Really hoping CCP looks into the HMG.
Quite a few people signed this thread, and people that I've never seen post anywhere before. People are THAT affected by the nerf that they come here and sign.
Please CCP, look into the HMG. |
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Posted - 2013.05.07 05:00:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I'm signing this now.
LETS DO ET!!~~~~~~
I'm running assault bro! Allot less ISK being risk, allot more fun playing, and less frustration tbh. I have my Heavy suit class there, but it'll rarely come out now. |
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Posted - 2013.05.08 01:20:00 -
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Updated OP with new name, and a reply from CCP |
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Bazookah Tooth wrote:i'd like to add my name. I was playing through the open beta, and saved up SP to become a Heavy SPECIFICALLY. I don't necessarily mind the damage nerf, or even the range (the faces are priceless running full blast HMG right into a cornered AR) but the area of fire should be smaller. Not dramatically, but enough so that if i am aiming at someone i expect bullets to engage enemy, not the DUST This comes from someone who has logged several hours after buying a new PS3 today because your game burned out my gen 1 and would not let me play any longer then 1 match (or even shutting off while I'm in MQ) I am a dedicated heavy and will play around with it till I run out of ISK but please do something. I promise to try and not shoot any other heavies, same with any logis helping a heavy (but only if your helping a heavy). AND IF YOU ARE AN AR I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN... AND YOUR BUDDIES
At this point you should try and shoot heavies.
Heavies vs Heavies is the most fun. Just putting your name down as protesting the nerf is good enough
The truce is about all heavies coming together, enemies or opponents. Having a cease fire of sorts is counter productive. |
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:yooooooooooooo lance, u not runnin heavy this build? either way, sign me up too, and give me my props as well. and give me another +1 simply bc im the last heavy standing in my corp....
I sank the majority of my SP into it man! I saved some SP just in case. Thankfully i had enough SP to make an OK Assault fit. I still pull out the heavy suit in certain situations and maps, but as it is right now, I've played more assault this build than heavy. |
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:32:00 -
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New names have been added. |
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Adaris Manpher wrote:in. so i will not shoot my fellow heavy just take out his logi lol i like it i do that anyway!
noooooo shoot heavies if you see them lol
We're united here on the forums in our protest. On the battlefield we fight hard everytime. Ran into a good heavy? Send him a msg saying GG, cuz you know his pain lol |
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