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Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
492
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:59:00 -
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This seems backwards. The laser rifle is waaaay worse than the HMG. Particularly the Viziam!
Why then, CCP, didn't you note any changes to the Laser rifle?
Honestly, all the HMG needed was a bit faster build-up of heat. Range nerf, thats .... acceptable. But damage as well? thats just overkill.
Please CCP, nerf the laser (too).
Also, I predict a buff to the HMG, or at the very least, a new heavy weapon, in future patches. |
Logi Bro
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
1285
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Posted - 2013.05.03 21:59:00 -
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Last I checked, the Viziam WAS nerfed. Have they changed it since then? |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty
EoN.
213
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:00:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Last I checked, the Viziam WAS nerfed. Have they changed it since then?
It is broke. CCP even admitted to it.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
349
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:01:00 -
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Clearly, the patch notes do not enumerate all of the changes.
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Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty
EoN.
213
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:03:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Clearly, the patch notes do not enumerate all of the changes.
If it did this forum would probably crash. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
1380
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:03:00 -
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30% damage reduction and Sharpshooters gone. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
391
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:10:00 -
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Well, they tuned back the laser "zoom" and changed the sights, for all we know this cripples it.
Also HMG needed a range nerf, badly. HMG's effective range overlapped AR's effective range far too much, and now that nobody has the ability to increase range via skills and we are all at a permanent set range, HMG's hopefully won't be able to out DPS an AR player at longer ranges. Cause lets face it, HMG gets more accurate with prolonged fire, while AR gets less accurate with fire (and kicks like a mule)... mix that with overlapping effective ranges, gave the advantage to HMG at a distance they shouldn't be able to reach very well. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1323
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:13:00 -
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lol and i thought HMG's are allready garbage. |
Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
188
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:15:00 -
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Proto laser now does 15 damage. |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
328
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:16:00 -
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Iron sights...... on a laser.....O.o |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3667
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:17:00 -
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WRONG
Viziam gas 15 base damage now, and all laser rifles have an ironsight with less zoom. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
492
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:36:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:WRONG
Viziam gas 15 base damage now, and all laser rifles have an ironsight with less zoom.
link for proof please? It wasn't in the patch notes.. |
Llan Heindell
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
35
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:41:00 -
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Laser are not OP, dmg mods stacking without penalty are.
Complain about the right thing OP and you'll be heard.
Llan Heindell. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1114
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:43:00 -
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Nerf lasers indefinitely. ?....damahe buildup should only apply once the laser hits the enemy. Add some skill to the weapon |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS
Orion Empire
55
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:51:00 -
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Llan Heindell wrote:Laser are not OP, dmg mods stacking without penalty are.
Complain about the right thing OP and you'll be heard.
Llan Heindell.
How about searching the forum for "DMG mod stacking penalty confirmed"
I forget which Dev it was but has been via IRC channel that stacking penalties are working. The problem is the UI displaying incorrect data.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3813
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:53:00 -
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Confirms the Patchnotes are FAR from complete. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
493
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:00:00 -
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Llan Heindell wrote:Laser are not OP, dmg mods stacking without penalty are.
Complain about the right thing OP and you'll be heard.
Llan Heindell.
You're lucky Another Heavy SOB corrected you, I would have been far less kind. Try researching a bit before you try to flame someone who knows what they are talking about.
Also, yeah Iron Wolf, I get it.
Since you're Mr. In-The-Know, just how much are we missing? would you say that isn't even half the changes? And i'm not talking "tweaked the position of the gallente scout suits big toe 1nm to the left" changes, I mean notable weapon buffs/nerfs, etc.
Also, Disregard individual skills as well, what's left? :D |
tribal wyvern
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
830
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:11:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:This seems backwards. The laser rifle is waaaay worse than the HMG. Particularly the Viziam!
Why then, CCP, didn't you note any changes to the Laser rifle?
Honestly, all the HMG needed was a bit faster build-up of heat. Range nerf, thats .... acceptable. But damage as well? thats just overkill.
Please CCP, nerf the laser (too).
Also, I predict a buff to the HMG, or at the very least, a new heavy weapon, in future patches.
Encourages using damage mods. You fail to realize that the damage nerf is stock, if you want more damage........use modules |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3667
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Posted - 2013.05.03 23:16:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:WRONG
Viziam gas 15 base damage now, and all laser rifles have an ironsight with less zoom. link for proof please? It wasn't in the patch notes..
Wolfman confirmed a long while ago the damage thing in IRC and that it was 15 in Uprising. He said the 20 was actually an error. Also, you can see the laser rifle ironsights in action in some gameplay video taken from Fanfest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J7JJ-QWSx8 . |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
353
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Posted - 2013.05.04 01:15:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:WRONG
Viziam gas 15 base damage now, and all laser rifles have an ironsight with less zoom. link for proof please? It wasn't in the patch notes..
Yeah, my point is that the patch notes aren't all inclusive. There's probably a lot not mentioned. Until we actually test the new build, no one can say what' op or not, what's a nerf or not, or what works or not.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
21
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Posted - 2013.05.04 01:17:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:This seems backwards. The laser rifle is waaaay worse than the HMG. Particularly the Viziam!
Why then, CCP, didn't you note any changes to the Laser rifle?
Honestly, all the HMG needed was a bit faster build-up of heat. Range nerf, thats .... acceptable. But damage as well? thats just overkill.
Please CCP, nerf the laser (too).
Also, I predict a buff to the HMG, or at the very least, a new heavy weapon, in future patches.
the laser has been changed as well. |
new hulk
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
90
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Posted - 2013.05.04 01:22:00 -
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tribal wyvern wrote:Orin the Freak wrote:This seems backwards. The laser rifle is waaaay worse than the HMG. Particularly the Viziam!
Why then, CCP, didn't you note any changes to the Laser rifle?
Honestly, all the HMG needed was a bit faster build-up of heat. Range nerf, thats .... acceptable. But damage as well? thats just overkill.
Please CCP, nerf the laser (too).
Also, I predict a buff to the HMG, or at the very least, a new heavy weapon, in future patches. Encourages using damage mods. You fail to realize that the damage nerf is stock, if you want more damage........use modules
Hey Heavys Only Have One High Slot.Lol |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
61
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Posted - 2013.05.04 01:43:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Confirms the Patchnotes are FAR from complete.
Then what the hell is the point in providing patch notes to begin with? Misleading by omission.
The laser will be getting a big nerf, purely by the fact that sharpshooter is being removed. The lasers range sucks without sharpshooter. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
156
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Posted - 2013.05.04 02:22:00 -
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The laser has been changed in the update...heat build up and iron sights but I'm not going to waste my time looking for the link when you can do it just as easy |
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