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Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 204	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:11:00 - [1] - Quote Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR?
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2779	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:12:00 - [2] - Quote I hate you all. Jk. Free cookies. Tissue for your tears?
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 180	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:13:00 - [3] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? LOL Prime example of a player who thinks Heavies are a Slayer role. Jump please note this.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 241	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:13:00 - [4] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? The AR's getting a severe nerf too bro. No more SS and no more weaponry means med range and lower damage for the AR. So my thinking is that CCP is going to nerf everything into the ground until we might as well be using slingshots and pointy sticks.
Mary Sedillo XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 13	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:14:00 - [5] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? I would take you more seriously when you learn to spell. Play the game, learn the builds, and counter. I don't want CCP to make everyone gods (and Assault folks are far from invincible). Play the build, and get a team. This isn't COD where you can just run-and-gun solo play and expect to be top.
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 175	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:17:00 - [6] - Quote slypie11 wrote: The AR's getting a severe nerf too bro. No more SS and no more weaponry means med range and lower damage for the AR. So my thinking is that CCP is going to nerf everything into the ground until we might as well be using slingshots and pointy sticks. The no more SS and weaponry affects every weapon though, but the only weapon mentioned as getting a specific nerf in the patch notes is the HMG which is why everyone is complaining about dead heavies but hopefully its only a minor nerf to balance the cheaper cost for the HMG.
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 209	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:32:00 - [7] - Quote ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? LOL Prime example of a player who thinks Heavies are a Slayer role. Jump please note this. Point out were i implied heavys are slayers. Im saying assults are the only needed class in the game and they are effective at ALLLL roles. You would know, you play assult AR. 22kd? Sooo were did i say that a heavy is a slayer? hmm, Assult slayer master?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1189	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:34:00 - [8] - Quote Nerfing the range AND damage is not balance. It's one or the other, but doing both? Basically made heavies a walking turd.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 241	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:35:00 - [9] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: The AR's getting a severe nerf too bro. No more SS and no more weaponry means med range and lower damage for the AR. So my thinking is that CCP is going to nerf everything into the ground until we might as well be using slingshots and pointy sticks. The no more SS and weaponry affects every weapon though, but the only weapon mentioned as getting a specific nerf in the patch notes is the HMG which is why everyone is complaining about dead heavies but hopefully its only a minor nerf to balance the cheaper cost for the HMG. exactly, I was just disproving the OPs point that ARs are not getting nerf. So eventually, all weapons will have the same stats and do 1 damage per shot and then everyone will be happy because no one will die.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1189	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:35:00 - [10] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? LOL Prime example of a player who thinks Heavies are a Slayer role. Jump please note this. Point out were i implied heavys are slayers. Im saying assults are the only needed class in the game and they are effective at ALLLL roles. You would know, you play assult AR. 22kd? Sooo were did i say that a heavy is a slayer? hmm, Assult slayer master? I won't argue with assault players. If they can't 1v1 everything, they cry about it.

Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 74	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:35:00 - [11] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? dude i hope CCP sees this cuz their sucking, big ones...
Icy Tiger Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 1378	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:36:00 - [12] - Quote Why are you mad about the range nerf then?
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 74	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:37:00 - [13] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? LOL Prime example of a player who thinks Heavies are a Slayer role. Jump please note this. Point out were i implied heavys are slayers. Im saying assults are the only needed class in the game and they are effective at ALLLL roles. You would know, you play assult AR. 22kd? Sooo were did i say that a heavy is a slayer? hmm, Assult slayer master? I won't argue with assault players. If they can't 1v1 everything, they cry about it. what AR users want to do is solo proto tanks..
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 177	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:38:00 - [14] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: The AR's getting a severe nerf too bro. No more SS and no more weaponry means med range and lower damage for the AR. So my thinking is that CCP is going to nerf everything into the ground until we might as well be using slingshots and pointy sticks. The no more SS and weaponry affects every weapon though, but the only weapon mentioned as getting a specific nerf in the patch notes is the HMG which is why everyone is complaining about dead heavies but hopefully its only a minor nerf to balance the cheaper cost for the HMG. exactly, I was just disproving the OPs point that ARs are not getting nerf. So eventually, all weapons will have the same stats and do 1 damage per shot and then everyone will be happy because no one will die. I am confused are you saying AR's are getting nerfed? Forgive my lack of comprehension im ill.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 245	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:39:00 - [15] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: The AR's getting a severe nerf too bro. No more SS and no more weaponry means med range and lower damage for the AR. So my thinking is that CCP is going to nerf everything into the ground until we might as well be using slingshots and pointy sticks. The no more SS and weaponry affects every weapon though, but the only weapon mentioned as getting a specific nerf in the patch notes is the HMG which is why everyone is complaining about dead heavies but hopefully its only a minor nerf to balance the cheaper cost for the HMG. exactly, I was just disproving the OPs point that ARs are not getting nerf. So eventually, all weapons will have the same stats and do 1 damage per shot and then everyone will be happy because no one will die. I am confused are you saying AR's are getting nerfed? Forgive my lack of comprehension im ill. Well, not directly nerfed, but they're getting weaponry and sharpshooter removed, which is probably what made them seem OP in the first place.
Medic 1879 The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 177	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:40:00 - [16] - Quote @slypie11 I get you now.
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 213	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:42:00 - [17] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: The AR's getting a severe nerf too bro. No more SS and no more weaponry means med range and lower damage for the AR. So my thinking is that CCP is going to nerf everything into the ground until we might as well be using slingshots and pointy sticks. The no more SS and weaponry affects every weapon though, but the only weapon mentioned as getting a specific nerf in the patch notes is the HMG which is why everyone is complaining about dead heavies but hopefully its only a minor nerf to balance the cheaper cost for the HMG. exactly, I was just disproving the OPs point that ARs are not getting nerf. So eventually, all weapons will have the same stats and do 1 damage per shot and then everyone will be happy because no one will die. I am confused are you saying AR's are getting nerfed? Forgive my lack of comprehension im ill. Noo im saying that every build that was ever dust, Assult players cried about the other classes and those classes got nerfed while the assult class AND AR got buffed. AR is not getting nerfed and will NEVER BE NERFED and nether will the assult class. They will continue to make more ARs and Assult suits and nerf and negelct everything else in the game that isent assult. Look at uprising
PAs Capone The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 54	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:42:00 - [18] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: The AR's getting a severe nerf too bro. No more SS and no more weaponry means med range and lower damage for the AR. So my thinking is that CCP is going to nerf everything into the ground until we might as well be using slingshots and pointy sticks. The no more SS and weaponry affects every weapon though, but the only weapon mentioned as getting a specific nerf in the patch notes is the HMG which is why everyone is complaining about dead heavies but hopefully its only a minor nerf to balance the cheaper cost for the HMG. exactly, I was just disproving the OPs point that ARs are not getting nerf. So eventually, all weapons will have the same stats and do 1 damage per shot and then everyone will be happy because no one will die. I am confused are you saying AR's are getting nerfed? Forgive my lack of comprehension im ill. Well, not directly nerfed, but they're getting weaponry and sharpshooter removed, which is probably what made them seem OP in the first place. But everyone is having the SS and weaponry removed. So if they are getting removed equally then basically the stats are proportionally the same. Thats why having the base range and damage removed is souch a big issue.
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 184	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:50:00 - [19] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? LOL Prime example of a player who thinks Heavies are a Slayer role. Jump please note this. Point out were i implied heavys are slayers. Im saying assults are the only needed class in the game and they are effective at ALLLL roles. You would know, you play assult AR. 22kd? Sooo were did i say that a heavy is a slayer? hmm, Assult slayer master? Its not what you said its how you play. I have played with you and against you. The heavy is not a run and gun slayer, yet I continually see you chasing down players. It might work in pubs, but it not effective playstyle in CBs or against good players. Furthermore, I cannot hold down objectives like a heavy. My strength is mobility, so I will never be anchored down. What's your weakness again Core? Core your badass player don't get me wrong. IMO suits have roles and this Nerf places the heavy into a more defensive role. Maybe we don't need a damage, but I think we did need range.
Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 213	Posted - 2013.05.03 20:57:00 - [20] - Quote ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? LOL Prime example of a player who thinks Heavies are a Slayer role. Jump please note this. Point out were i implied heavys are slayers. Im saying assults are the only needed class in the game and they are effective at ALLLL roles. You would know, you play assult AR. 22kd? Sooo were did i say that a heavy is a slayer? hmm, Assult slayer master? Its not what you said its how you play. I have played with you and against you. The heavy is not a run and gun slayer, yet I continually see you chasing down players. It might work in pubs, but it not effective playstyle in CBs or against good players. Furthermore, I cannot hold down objectives like a heavy. My strength is mobility, so I will never be anchored down. What's your weakness again Core? Core your badass player don't get me wrong. IMO suits have roles and this Nerf places the heavy into a more defensive role. Maybe we don't need a damage, but I think we did need range. Your right im not saying theres anything wrong with assult or anything. And tbh it is the CB that matter, the taking of districts. I dont base my oppinions and specualtions off of pub stomping, its easy to go 30 or 40 and 0 in pubs. i base my speculations off of crazy good players like yourself. you and the other players that are great at dust play assult, you guys take advantage of the assult class because it is 100% better than the others and you guys know it. When i put my ideas and numbers up its their to compare against ppl as skilled as you, its ppl who are like you who are in corp battles not scrubs. Theres no way a heavy or scout can confidently oppose a solid assult suit and a great player using one. Shotgun to HMG, it just dosent happen. Assult classes enable you and others to kill everyone you see like its a joke. OP classes and broken game mechanics is my weakness

Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 407	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:00:00 - [21] - Quote meh, gonna play the game before I make a decision.... definitely going assault though, the only class CCP has never **** up. If heavy is **** this build, expect to see no changes until next build.
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 109	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:02:00 - [22] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: meh, gonna play the game before I make a decision.... definitely going assault though, the only class CCP has never **** up. If heavy is **** this build, expect to see no changes until next build. The heavy is fine.
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 404	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:08:00 - [23] - Quote Protoman Is God wrote: Captain-Awesome wrote: meh, gonna play the game before I make a decision.... definitely going assault though, the only class CCP has never **** up. If heavy is **** this build, expect to see no changes until next build. The heavy is fine. So is the CreoDron.
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 184	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:12:00 - [24] - Quote Captain-Awesome wrote: meh, gonna play the game before I make a decision.... definitely going assault though, the only class CCP has never **** up. If heavy is **** this build, expect to see no changes until next build. We don't need anymore support ARs Anyways this thread has gotten to cereal for my liking. Time for a IMP public announcement.
Muramasa Armads Defensores Doctrina 4	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:21:00 - [25] - Quote This is certainly an interesting nerf to my favorite class. The only thing I can think of that would justify this kind of nerf to Heavies is the sentinel suit bonus which is 5% reduction to weapon feedback damage per level. Weapon feedback is vague, but if it means weapons do 5% less damage to sentinel heavies than this nerf makes perfect sense because a sentinel Heavy could easily reduce all damage done to it by 25% if that passive skill was maxed out. If weapon feedback is just protection from splash damage of a weapon than CCP just dealt the Heavy class a crippling blow along with Tanks this build. I would like to advise my fellow heavies to not panic and instead ask CCP for specifics about the weapon feedback passive skill.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 529	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:26:00 - [26] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? LOL Prime example of a player who thinks Heavies are a Slayer role. Jump please note this. Point out were i implied heavys are slayers. Im saying assults are the only needed class in the game and they are effective at ALLLL roles. You would know, you play assult AR. 22kd? Sooo were did i say that a heavy is a slayer? hmm, Assult slayer master? Its not what you said its how you play. I have played with you and against you. The heavy is not a run and gun slayer, yet I continually see you chasing down players. It might work in pubs, but it not effective playstyle in CBs or against good players. Furthermore, I cannot hold down objectives like a heavy. My strength is mobility, so I will never be anchored down. What's your weakness again Core? Core your badass player don't get me wrong. IMO suits have roles and this Nerf places the heavy into a more defensive role. Maybe we don't need a damage, but I think we did need range. Your right im not saying theres anything wrong with assult or anything. And tbh it is the CB that matter, the taking of districts. I dont base my oppinions and specualtions off of pub stomping, its easy to go 30 or 40 and 0 in pubs. i base my speculations off of crazy good players like yourself. you and the other players that are great at dust play assult, you guys take advantage of the assult class because it is 100% better than the others and you guys know it. When i put my ideas and numbers up its there to compare against ppl as skilled as you, its ppl who are like you who are in corp battles not scrubs. Theres no way a heavy or scout can confidently oppose a solid assult suit and a great player using one. Shotgun to HMG, it just dosent happen. Assult classes enable you and others to kill everyone you see like its a joke. OP classes and broken game mechanics is my weakness I challenged you and every cry baby heavy to spec AR if its so op and broken. I have enough sp to spec 2 suits fine, if you can prove AR is what you say it is I will play heavy all day. If not just go cry and watch some romantic comedies while eating a gallon of ice cream
Hollow M Ling Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:31:00 - [27] - Quote Zitro spend your points after the respec to test what the Heavy is like then tell us about it.
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 212	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:31:00 - [28] - Quote http://24.media.tumblr.com/0a9d40da47ff29a217e057320c974757/tumblr_mldtdbQsGZ1s9j8ldo1_500.gif
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 490	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:35:00 - [29] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? shhh, you'll **** off CCP with all that logic you're throwing around
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 529	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:36:00 - [30] - Quote Hollow M Ling wrote: Zitro spend your points after the respec to test what the Heavy is like then tell us about it. Heavy is and always will be fine as long as you know hot to play your role

100 proof G I A N T EoN. 4	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:36:00 - [31] - Quote all guns lost ss & wpnry skills yes, but HMGs got BASE dmg & rng reduction too. understand.?.? also "weapon feedback" can only mean 1 thing IMO, & thats dmg done to you from overheating a weapon.. wich then leads me to believe HMGs may do dmg when overheated.. not 100% on that but there is new overheat animations on all heat build up weapons..
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Unclaimed. 490	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:41:00 - [32] - Quote Mrmaple Core wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? LOL Prime example of a player who thinks Heavies are a Slayer role. Jump please note this. Point out were i implied heavys are slayers. Im saying assults are the only needed class in the game and they are effective at ALLLL roles. You would know, you play assult AR. 22kd? Sooo were did i say that a heavy is a slayer? hmm, Assult slayer master? Its not what you said its how you play. I have played with you and against you. The heavy is not a run and gun slayer, yet I continually see you chasing down players. It might work in pubs, but it not effective playstyle in CBs or against good players. Furthermore, I cannot hold down objectives like a heavy. My strength is mobility, so I will never be anchored down. What's your weakness again Core? Core your badass player don't get me wrong. IMO suits have roles and this Nerf places the heavy into a more defensive role. Maybe we don't need a damage, but I think we did need range. Your right im not saying theres anything wrong with assult or anything. And tbh it is the CB that matter, the taking of districts. I dont base my oppinions and specualtions off of pub stomping, its easy to go 30 or 40 and 0 in pubs. i base my speculations off of crazy good players like yourself. you and the other players that are great at dust play assult, you guys take advantage of the assult class because it is 100% better than the others and you guys know it. When i put my ideas and numbers up its there to compare against ppl as skilled as you, its ppl who are like you who are in corp battles not scrubs. Theres no way a heavy or scout can confidently oppose a solid assult suit and a great player using one. Shotgun to HMG, it just dosent happen. Assult classes enable you and others to kill everyone you see like its a joke. OP classes and broken game mechanics is my weakness I challenged you and every cry baby heavy to spec AR if its so op and broken. I have enough sp to spec 2 suits fine, if you can prove AR is what you say it is I will play heavy all day. If not just go cry and watch some romantic comedies while eating a gallon of ice cream [/quote] ahem, i SAW you running heavy back in closed beat, but not anymore. why is that? oh yes, cause Zitro never uses nerfed items
Hollow M Ling Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:41:00 - [33] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Hollow M Ling wrote: Zitro spend your points after the respec to test what the Heavy is like then tell us about it. Heavy is and always will be fine as long as you know hot to play your role Trust me I know my Heavy. But the problem that people worry about is if the Heavy will be less effective then it is now. Also have you asked your heavies what they think? They got good Heavy game so they can give a bit more insight.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 249	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:43:00 - [34] - Quote I have a full AR spec in addition to my full HMG spec and it's broke as a joke. Thousand times easier than HMG. Thanks for playing.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 156	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:45:00 - [35] - Quote If someone playing assault catches a heavy in the open and its not cqc the heavy deserves to die a heavy was not created for open environments that was the point of a heavy just as tanks need teamwork to stay alive or atleast play smart
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. CRONOS. 135	Posted - 2013.05.03 21:54:00 - [36] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Hollow M Ling wrote: Zitro spend your points after the respec to test what the Heavy is like then tell us about it. Heavy is and always will be fine as long as you know hot to play your role As long as you are satisfied with not making any money .... Assault , Logi ,even the nerfed tanks will always have the highest WP contributions and making that dough . Heavies ....sent to the kiddie table with the Dropship pilots. Being moved to a defensive role is all well and good but until I get WP's for soaking up bullets it really doesn't pay the bills.
Muramasa Armads Defensores Doctrina 4	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:00:00 - [37] - Quote I was just told by a friend what weapon feedback is going to do and it was not what I was hoping for. He told me that IGÇÖm going to take less damage when my gun burns up, so itGÇÖs not going to be helpful at all. This nerf is definitely a harsh blow to the Heavy class. The only good thing about this is that Heavy will be the hardest class to use next build and take the most skill.
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 529	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:04:00 - [38] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: ahem, i SAW you running heavy back in closed beat, but not anymore. why is that? oh yes, cause Zitro never uses nerfed items I spec and try out every suit/vehicle, something you scrubs don't understand. Heavy is fine just learn how to play and you might be in a better corp
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 529	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:07:00 - [39] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Hollow M Ling wrote: Zitro spend your points after the respec to test what the Heavy is like then tell us about it. Heavy is and always will be fine as long as you know hot to play your role As long as you are satisfied with not making any money .... Assault , Logi ,even the nerfed tanks will always have the highest WP contributions and making that dough . Heavies ....sent to the kiddie table with the Dropship pilots. Being moved to a defensive role is all well and good but until I get WP's for soaking up bullets it really doesn't pay the bills. Than spec something else if you want WP, this isn't a charity. Oh you play as a heavy here is some free WPs, Now as for making money, I do it with every class except tanks. Heavies are cheap compared to tanks so maybe you should learn how to not die or have a logi partner
Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 529	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:09:00 - [40] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I have a full AR spec in addition to my full HMG spec and it's broke as a joke. Thousand times easier than HMG. Thanks for playing. Lol I can stupid things too, but the fact that I don't know your name makes me laugh thanks for that

Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 188	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:10:00 - [41] - Quote Muramasa Armads wrote: This is certainly an interesting nerf to my favorite class. The only thing I can think of that would justify this kind of nerf to Heavies is the sentinel suit bonus which is 5% reduction to weapon feedback damage per level. Weapon feedback is vague, but if it means weapons do 5% less damage to sentinel heavies than this nerf makes perfect sense because a sentinel Heavy could easily reduce all damage done to it by 25% if that passive skill was maxed out. If weapon feedback is just protection from splash damage of a weapon than CCP just dealt the Heavy class a crippling blow along with Tanks this build. I would like to advise my fellow heavies to not panic and instead ask CCP for specifics about the weapon feedback passive skill. Son, you need to get your facts checked. Weapon feedback damage means the damage you take for overheating your weapon... which never happens for an HMG.
undeadsoldier90 Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 328	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:10:00 - [42] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I have a full AR spec in addition to my full HMG spec and it's broke as a joke. Thousand times easier than HMG. Thanks for playing. Lol I can stupid things too, but the fact that I don't know your name makes me laugh thanks for that Go away zitro you are not welcome in fatty QQ threads!
undeadsoldier90 Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 328	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:11:00 - [43] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Muramasa Armads wrote: This is certainly an interesting nerf to my favorite class. The only thing I can think of that would justify this kind of nerf to Heavies is the sentinel suit bonus which is 5% reduction to weapon feedback damage per level. Weapon feedback is vague, but if it means weapons do 5% less damage to sentinel heavies than this nerf makes perfect sense because a sentinel Heavy could easily reduce all damage done to it by 25% if that passive skill was maxed out. If weapon feedback is just protection from splash damage of a weapon than CCP just dealt the Heavy class a crippling blow along with Tanks this build. I would like to advise my fellow heavies to not panic and instead ask CCP for specifics about the weapon feedback passive skill. Son, you need to get your facts checked. Weapon feedback damage means the damage you take for overheating your weapon... which never happens for an HMG. LOL
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 250	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:18:00 - [44] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I have a full AR spec in addition to my full HMG spec and it's broke as a joke. Thousand times easier than HMG. Thanks for playing. Then why don't I see any other good AR users in game? There are only a handful that I can think of off the top of my head and I know them all by name. So many people say the AR is easy mode yet this entire playerbase sucks at this game with an AR. Seriously I can only name maybe 25 AR users that drop 25-50 kills in ambush on a regular basis. If the AR is so easy then lets see this playerbase get competitive. I have a feeling I am going to be waiting for a long time.
Mary Sedillo XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 15	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:20:00 - [45] - Quote Does anyone notice that the name for the Assault is... the Assault? It implies that it does that role and is meant to do that well. Capturing points and killing other infantry. Its role is general. It kills. The suit is fast, but not as specialized as the others. People cry about it, and I understand why they may do it more than other games. The vehicles aren't free, their outfits are not free. Does it make it okay though to do it to no end? I don't think so. Assault class is operating as it should, the AR is functioning as it should and rebalances will just make the experience richer. Want to down an Assault fast? Equip flux grenades and fire away.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 391	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:30:00 - [46] - Quote Hey, maybe now heavies will actually use the HMG less and start doing what they were designed to do... AV. Seems CCP has to ween you guys off your point-n-click cannons so you can do what assault players end up having to do now (yup... AV). I think it's a pretty big hint hint from CCP, it's only a few steps away from them saying "Hey fatties, get off your lazy HMG butts and start doing AV!" Also patch notes say that heavy suits will cost the same as assault suits with same meta. So CCP listened to you guys there.
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. CRONOS. 135	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:47:00 - [47] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: As long as you are satisfied with not making any money .... Assault , Logi ,even the nerfed tanks will always have the highest WP contributions and making that dough . Heavies ....sent to the kiddie table with the Dropship pilots. Being moved to a defensive role is all well and good but until I get WP's for soaking up bullets it really doesn't pay the bills. Than spec something else if you want WP, this isn't a charity. Oh you play as a heavy here is some free WPs, Now as for making money, I do it with every class except tanks. Heavies are cheap compared to tanks so maybe you should learn how to not die or have a logi partner [/quote] Maybe it changes in Uprising but running heavy is hardly cheap.... Not dying isn't the problem . It's pure logic. If WP determines my payout yet I only get WP's for killing things then affecting my ability to kill things in turn effects my payout. If I'm stuck guarding a point and sure I can drive people away from the point but unless I kill each and every one ... I'm not being paid . Meanwhile the Logi keeping me up is being paid hand and foot from resupplies,revives, and healing along with killing , not that I begrudge him of that cause I love my logi bros . Meanwhile Assaults being more mobile are able to go out and fight more and kill more . On top of that they also are able to get revives, or resupply points depending on what they are carrying . The point is the Logi and Assault would far outpace the heavy in WP production so the heavy would always end up with the smaller piece of the pie . That's my point . If I'm to be forced into a guard role then pay me for guarding . Suppression WPs would do wonders.
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. CRONOS. 135	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:55:00 - [48] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Hey, maybe now heavies will actually use the HMG less and start doing what they were designed to do... AV. Seems CCP has to ween you guys off your point-n-click cannons so you can do what assault players end up having to do now (yup... AV). I think it's a pretty big hint hint from CCP, it's only a few steps away from them saying "Hey fatties, get off your lazy HMG butts and start doing AV!" Also patch notes say that heavy suits will cost the same as assault suits with same meta. So CCP listened to you guys there. But then they nerfed all the tanks making them run away leaving me with no prey ...
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1604	Posted - 2013.05.03 22:58:00 - [49] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? they need to fix the heavy or nerf the AR
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 696	Posted - 2013.05.03 23:02:00 - [50] - Quote Welp, that's it. CCP has finally convinced me to stop running a heavy. At least they're giving me a new Amarr suit as they are murdering the old one.

Mr Zitro Imperfects Negative-Feedback 529	Posted - 2013.05.03 23:09:00 - [51] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: Mr Zitro wrote: Than spec something else if you want WP, this isn't a charity. Oh you play as a heavy here is some free WPs, Now as for making money, I do it with every class except tanks. Heavies are cheap compared to tanks so maybe you should learn how to not die or have a logi partner Maybe it changes in Uprising but running heavy is hardly cheap.... Not dying isn't the problem . It's pure logic. If WP determines my payout yet I only get WP's for killing things then affecting my ability to kill things in turn effects my payout. If I'm stuck guarding a point and sure I can drive people away from the point but unless I kill each and every one ... I'm not being paid . Meanwhile the Logi keeping me up is being paid hand and foot from resupplies,revives, and healing along with killing , not that I begrudge him of that cause I love my logi bros . Meanwhile Assaults being more mobile are able to go out and fight more and kill more . On top of that they also are able to get revives, or resupply points depending on what they are carrying . The point is the Logi and Assault would far outpace the heavy in WP production so the heavy would always end up with the smaller piece of the pie . That's my point . If I'm to be forced into a guard role then pay me for guarding . Suppression WPs would do wonders. Again this is all about play style, can I keep up with war points in pubs yes I can get top 3-5. Can I keep up with other top slayer like reg proto, etc? No but can I make more of an impact by defending key areas! That's the price of a heavy and if you play to your strengths you can be efficient.
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. CRONOS. 135	Posted - 2013.05.03 23:17:00 - [52] - Quote Mr Zitro wrote: Again this is all about play style, can I keep up with war points in pubs yes I can get top 3-5. Can I keep up with other top slayer like reg proto, etc? No but can I make more of an impact by defending key areas! That's the price of a heavy and if you play to your strengths you can be efficient. So can I ......in this build . The question is will I be able to do the same doing way less damage while people are sprint strafing away from me . What good is getting WP's for killing when you are easily avoided ?
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 156	Posted - 2013.05.04 02:16:00 - [53] - Quote Haha everything has been nerfed sooo adapt or die
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 249	Posted - 2013.05.04 02:27:00 - [54] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Hey, maybe now heavies will actually use the HMG less and start doing what they were designed to do... AV. Seems CCP has to ween you guys off your point-n-click cannons so you can do what assault players end up having to do now (yup... AV). I think it's a pretty big hint hint from CCP, it's only a few steps away from them saying "Hey fatties, get off your lazy HMG butts and start doing AV!" Also patch notes say that heavy suits will cost the same as assault suits with same meta. So CCP listened to you guys there. Actually, we were designed for AV and AI. Its just that now we won't be good at AI. Anyway, making a class purely AV is completely unfair, since no one brings out tanks because they're too expensive. Anyway, try out heavies for a while, hmgs are far from point and click cannons, especially since there is no click. That's what the AR is for.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 170	Posted - 2013.05.04 02:29:00 - [55] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: slypie11 wrote: The AR's getting a severe nerf too bro. No more SS and no more weaponry means med range and lower damage for the AR. So my thinking is that CCP is going to nerf everything into the ground until we might as well be using slingshots and pointy sticks. The no more SS and weaponry affects every weapon though, but the only weapon mentioned as getting a specific nerf in the patch notes is the HMG which is why everyone is complaining about dead heavies but hopefully its only a minor nerf to balance the cheaper cost for the HMG. exactly, I was just disproving the OPs point that ARs are not getting nerf. So eventually, all weapons will have the same stats and do 1 damage per shot and then everyone will be happy because no one will die. I am confused are you saying AR's are getting nerfed? Forgive my lack of comprehension im ill. Noo im saying that every build that was ever dust, Assult players cried about the other classes and those classes got nerfed while the assult class AND AR got buffed. AR is not getting nerfed and will NEVER BE NERFED and nether will the assult class. They will continue to make more ARs and Assult suits and nerf and negelct everything else in the game that isent assult. Look at uprising The assault class has had everything nerfed and buffed just like every thing else. The problem is that you only see what helps or hurts you and not what is good for the entire game. You are a feared heavy and you should not fall into this trap. It will be tweaked and we will have balance once again.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 6	Posted - 2013.05.04 02:56:00 - [56] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? More to the point related in your title. I don't think CCP has a balancing style for DUST. At the moment it seems based their EvE experience....also it is based on EvE players who came here in closed beta and gave their opinions....but it is haphazard at best. This will change and i imagine pretty quickly. Either CCP will keep listening to EvE players on how to run a "AAA" FPS (AAA is their words not mine) which will fail to bring in the FPS players...or it will begin to listen to FPS players and change the balancing so it is focused on player skill rather then nerfs and buffs and SP and gear. My guess is that CCP is not dumb and will figure it out when they push Uprising out the door and into the hands of new players. The ultimate direction will be toward giving weapons and weapon abilities to what an FPS player wants. And an FPS player wants his weapons to match his FPS skills to be only limited by how well he can master their use. Right now weapons are based on how long you have been here or some lame "balancing" metric which discourages FPS players. FPS player flanks another player hits him first and hits him hard then that other player hops in the air, turns lethargically around and 3 shots the better player....yeah an FPS player will not stay here for that...will not accept to be beat not because of skill but because the other player has been here longer and accumulated more SP and ISK.
Kiro Justice The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:08:00 - [57] - Quote I use AR's from time to time, and I have to kind of agree. Right now, the Duvolle is a sniper rifle. I do however disagree on the idea that "No one else is getting anything in Uprising." Flaylock Pistols - Useable by anyone who can carry a secondary Plasma Cannon Assault Dropships (So fuckin cool looking. Futuristic AC130? Maybe.) Etc. But the point still stands that AR's need a...I don't wanna say Super-Nerf but...They do need a nerf.
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries 117	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:25:00 - [58] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? Lol, CCP screw the TAR, the Breach AR, and put Iron Sight, something that used Stalin when he played Call of Duty with Hittler, there in the second war. CCP did that kind of things because people like you, A HEAVY THAT KILLs 4/5/6 GUYS IN A ROAD at close range cry like now. A HEAVY THAT CAN USES A MILITIA FORGE GUN AND KILL A FULL PROTO GEAR WITH 1 SHOT. Men, for real? Did you even think before say something like this? Do you want to be faster than a scout guy, drop fire balls in the battlefield and be a ***** Dragonborn? Heavies at close range are so ***** destructive and you still can spam bullets at mid distance. I particullary saw you killing more than 5 guys in a road and you're saying that the Assault guy and the AR have the "CCP protection"? Just, LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL
Atikali Havendoorr HERBGROWERS 9	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:51:00 - [59] - Quote DJINN leukoplast wrote: Hey, maybe now heavies will actually use the HMG less and start doing what they were designed to do... AV. Seems CCP has to ween you guys off your point-n-click cannons so you can do what assault players end up having to do now (yup... AV). I think it's a pretty big hint hint from CCP, it's only a few steps away from them saying "Hey fatties, get off your lazy HMG butts and start doing AV!" Also patch notes say that heavy suits will cost the same as assault suits with same meta. So CCP listened to you guys there. We wanted the price to be lowered provided that the stats were the same. The lowered price does not make up for the nerfed HMG. And others have pointed out that a defensive role like guarding an object does not generate any reward. Thus the HMG is useless. Leaving heavys with just the forge gun... skilling into a different suit just for that abomination? Don't think so.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.04 18:52:00 - [60] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: Notice that everything sucks now EXCEPT assult class and AR? In fact, more ARs have been introduced and more assult suits as well. Veryyy awsume for assult players. The other classes dont get anything though. Infact, the other classes in the game are subject to the assults mercy every build. Its true, when the assult players cry on the forums things get nerfed and assult players get buffed. Like this time heavys were a big promblem because the worst assult players cant consistantly kill a heavy 1v1 point blank. This is were the heavy is supposed to win, but assults dont win so it dosent fly. To remedy this heavys get NOTHING upon uprising AND get nerfed. There was an awful lot of tanks killing assult players and the assult players cried on the forums about their ARs not being able to kill tanks. Sooo tanks loose their "proto" vairents for enforcers wich are slower and have less deffence so AV nades can kill them better. Logi? well assults never cried about them they dont change at all. And scout? well they get nerfed too. Dunno why, never hear ppl complain about them being OP i geuss cuz its not an assult suit. Assults ALWAYS get what they want and now DUST AR14 is all about the assult class. Guys, arnt the assult suits OP AF? and the AR? I would take you more seriously when you learn to spell. Play the game, learn the builds, and counter. I don't want CCP to make everyone gods (and Assault folks are far from invincible). Play the build, and get a team. This isn't COD where you can just run-and-gun solo play and expect to be top. you would not take him seriously if he could spell! lol



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