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Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1013	Posted - 2013.05.01 18:39:00 - [1] - Quote www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjMwiqmBs1o#t=5m18s So Jenza just showed us that you are invisible, completely, directly after spawning and still so until you move. Is this already, an AFK exploit for those who care?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1189	Posted - 2013.05.01 18:40:00 - [2] - Quote Doubtful since they said they planned to fix AFKing, not improve on it
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 344	Posted - 2013.05.01 18:40:00 - [3] - Quote Shhhhh Edit: actually I am sure AFKers would figure that out in about half a sec.
Rynx Sinfar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 535	Posted - 2013.05.01 18:43:00 - [4] - Quote Seems pretty easy to put a time limit on it if it is an issue. Even 10 seconds is a ton of time but nothing for AFKing. Also your still vulnerable to nades and etc.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1013	Posted - 2013.05.01 18:44:00 - [5] - Quote I'm really hoping CPM is taking note. I'm sure I heard one of them mention that they'll purposefully look for flaws in the system and ways it can be abused. Well, here's one.
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 231	Posted - 2013.05.01 18:44:00 - [6] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjMwiqmBs1o#t=5m18s So Jenza just showed us that you are invisible, completely, directly after spawning and still so until you move. Is this already, an AFK exploit for those who care? I am sure it will be the same as EVE with a timer.
Nightbird Aeon Ahrendee Mercenaries 127	Posted - 2013.05.01 18:47:00 - [7] - Quote In EVE, when a ship jumps through a gate from one system to another, the ship arrives "cloaked". Moving or hostile action will drop the close and let that ship be targeted. The cloak will also expire after 30 seconds.... so the ship will appear 30 seconds after jumping anyway. I don't know for sure, but as they have a track record with this kind of mechanic, I would assume that there is a similar "cloak-expiration-timer" mechanic to be applied as part of uprising.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 268	Posted - 2013.05.01 18:59:00 - [8] - Quote ah so I wasn't the only one thinking this, but hopefully the worst reward system in games ever has been fixed so AFK does not reward well or at all.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1349	Posted - 2013.05.01 19:03:00 - [9] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjMwiqmBs1o#t=5m18s So Jenza just showed us that you are invisible, completely, directly after spawning and still so until you move. Is this already, an AFK exploit for those who care? You hold your gate cloak in EVE for 1 minute after going through. I would imagine Dust would have a similar limitation installed.
Odiain Suliis The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 147	Posted - 2013.05.01 19:05:00 - [10] - Quote In one of the keynote/DUST related vids DEV said that the spawn 'cloak' only lasts few seconds. If I remember correctly about 1-3sec.
Llan Heindell One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 19	Posted - 2013.05.01 19:06:00 - [11] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: I'm really hoping CPM is taking note. I'm sure I heard one of them mention that they'll purposefully look for flaws in the system and ways it can be abused. Well, here's one. Edit: Yes a timer would be an easy fix, but Jenza never mentioned it and said that it only deactivates with movement. So that should probably be fixed to be a timer, as in before it is even released. As we all should be. We are Beta testers. Our job is to experience the bugs before the commercial release and report them to CCP. Llan Heindell.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 268	Posted - 2013.05.01 19:14:00 - [12] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjMwiqmBs1o#t=5m18s So Jenza just showed us that you are invisible, completely, directly after spawning and still so until you move. Is this already, an AFK exploit for those who care? You hold your gate cloak in EVE for 1 minute after going through. I would imagine Dust would have a similar limitation installed. maybe a 5 minute cloak in the MCC because its like warping into 1.2 super padded wall high sec where hugs are to dangerous and thus outlawed. right? now for trolls aside. if the reward system isn't fixed then the cloaking adds nothing to it and AFKers are just going to keep going.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 150	Posted - 2013.05.01 19:23:00 - [13] - Quote Who cares?
Skipper Jones ZionTCD Unclaimed. 30	Posted - 2013.05.01 20:18:00 - [14] - Quote It deactivates. In the keynote when Nulabors "corp" attacked fox four's "corp" they spawned in the MCC and the cloak deactivated even though they did not move.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1016	Posted - 2013.05.01 20:27:00 - [15] - Quote Skipper Jones wrote: It deactivates. In the keynote when Nulabors "corp" attacked fox four's "corp" they spawned in the MCC and the cloak deactivated even though they did not move. Good to know @ Robot Devil: The AFK'er says "who cares"
Icy Tiger Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 1317	Posted - 2013.05.01 20:29:00 - [16] - Quote Why are we worried about the cloak? Isn't AFK Farming itself a much bigger issue? Remove the 5 sp/s thing, make it active WP collection only, or, if you don't move for 45 s, game kicks you out.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 152	Posted - 2013.05.01 20:49:00 - [17] - Quote It is pointless. If they want to do it let them. It does not hurt me or anyone else in the game, also we can leave matches if you are dying to someone who is afk. It is not that big of a deal.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 152	Posted - 2013.05.01 20:58:00 - [18] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Skipper Jones wrote: It deactivates. In the keynote when Nulabors "corp" attacked fox four's "corp" they spawned in the MCC and the cloak deactivated even though they did not move. Good to know @ Robot Devil: The AFK'er says "who cares" I have never been away from my controller while being in a match. I don't cheat, boost, exploit, afk or any other activity that one could consider anything but pure game play. I may not be good but I do play when I am on an I don't quit battles because of other people or corps. I play 100%. Who cares if they are afk? Leave the battle if it is that bad.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 356	Posted - 2013.05.01 21:08:00 - [19] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Skipper Jones wrote: It deactivates. In the keynote when Nulabors "corp" attacked fox four's "corp" they spawned in the MCC and the cloak deactivated even though they did not move. Good to know @ Robot Devil: The AFK'er says "who cares" I have never been away from my controller while being in a match. I don't cheat, boost, exploit, afk or any other activity that one could consider anything but pure game play. I may not be good but I do play when I am on an I don't quit battles because of other people or corps. I play 100%. Who cares if they are afk? Leave the battle if it is that bad. yeah that sounds like an ideal solution. I just now spent an entire match (i would say sorry whoever was on my team but they won) with two players i did not know AFKing in the MCC out of curiosity. 17k SP, thats sucks and in no way would i want to play a game were that could happen. I literally did not move the whole match. I had no idea how broken that was.... and you say leave it alone, no way. that will hurt the game greatly.
Vethosis Universal Allies Inc. 9	Posted - 2013.05.01 21:28:00 - [20] - Quote bojo can u help me in game whenever u can
Icy Tiger Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 1323	Posted - 2013.05.01 21:31:00 - [21] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: It is pointless. If they want to do it let them. It does not hurt me or anyone else in the game, also we can leave matches if you are dying to someone who is afk. It is not that big of a deal. Yes it is, these guys are taking up slots on the team, valuable slots that could be filled by someone willing to win.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 1026	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:26:00 - [22] - Quote Vethosis wrote: bojo can u help me in game whenever u can Sure thing, anything for a fellow UAI merc. Send me mail regarding the whats and the whos
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 153	Posted - 2013.05.02 07:57:00 - [23] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: It is pointless. If they want to do it let them. It does not hurt me or anyone else in the game, also we can leave matches if you are dying to someone who is afk. It is not that big of a deal. Yes it is, these guys are taking up slots on the team, valuable slots that could be filled by someone willing to win. It is no different that sitting cloaked afk in a system for a day, causes tears but not much more. Yes it may sometimes cause a loss but who cares? The battles we fight now are random and pointless and to say that some douches are ruining the game is a bit much. If they were corpmates or if the battle had a point then I would say yes it is a problem but as for right now it doesn't matter. These people either can't compete and think that the little bit of extra SP will help or are people who are good and don't need it. Either way it doesn't effect the game as it is right now. People afk in tanks all the time, how are we going to combat that? Sitting at a checkpoint waiting on reds is basically afk, people are doing it just to hear everyone cry on the forums.

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