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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:11:00 -
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I'm seeing more and more lately people calling out that the Forge gun will be useless because of the light Plasma cannon. Now let me ask you a question: Does the Plasma cannon have a projectile that moves almost instantly across the battlefield? Does it hit EXACTLY where you aim? (I.E does the projectile moves forward without being affected by gravity?) Does it have multiple shots in its clip?
Let me give you a hint: NO
The Forge Gun is more or less Sniper AV, it can hit tanks across the battlefield with high precision. The Plasma cannon projectile drops very quickly and is comparatively slow to both the swarms and the forge gun, it also has to be reloaded after each shot. Please stop being stupid by saying that the Plasma cannon will replace the FG. |

Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:12:00 -
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I farted. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:13:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:I farted. Good to know. |

Sleepy Zan
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:15:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:I farted. smells like eggs bro, **** this I need to get out of this thread. |

J-Lewis
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:16:00 -
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Also it doesn't do as much damage as the forge. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:19:00 -
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I see it took exactly one comment to derail this thread. |

Wombat in combat
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:31:00 -
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I played around with the Plasma Cannon and got pretty disappointed. Mainly by how long it takes to reload. And I was playing on all lvl 5s character.
I tested it against a Madrugar and it was about as effective as standard AV nades (I know it's intended for shield tanks but didn't get the chance to test that). I also tested it on infantry and it was even less effective than the forge gun at that. |

Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:34:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I'm seeing more and more lately people calling out that the Forge gun will be useless because of the light Plasma cannon. Now let me ask you a question: Does the Plasma cannon have a projectile that moves almost instantly across the battlefield? Does it hit EXACTLY where you aim? (I.E does the projectile move forward without being affected by gravity?) Does it have multiple shots in its clip?
Let me give you a hint: NO
The Forge Gun is more or less Sniper AV, it can hit tanks across the battlefield with high precision. The Plasma cannon projectile drops very quickly and is comparatively slow to both the swarms and the forge gun, it also has to be reloaded after each shot. Please stop being stupid by saying that the Plasma cannon will replace the FG. Actually, if you watch the footage we have so far you can see that it can fire more than one shot before reloading, but your other points still stand. All those spouting doom for the Forge also have to keep in mind that it's a Light Weapon, which would automatically imply it likely does less damage than a Forge.
Let's just hope the Plasma Cannon gets Swarm damage and Swarms get a damage reduction and a flight speed boost. Maybe then we'll actually have balanced AV. |

Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:36:00 -
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I think I pooped myself.. :( |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:37:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm seeing more and more lately people calling out that the Forge gun will be useless because of the light Plasma cannon. Now let me ask you a question: Does the Plasma cannon have a projectile that moves almost instantly across the battlefield? Does it hit EXACTLY where you aim? (I.E does the projectile move forward without being affected by gravity?) Does it have multiple shots in its clip?
Let me give you a hint: NO
The Forge Gun is more or less Sniper AV, it can hit tanks across the battlefield with high precision. The Plasma cannon projectile drops very quickly and is comparatively slow to both the swarms and the forge gun, it also has to be reloaded after each shot. Please stop being stupid by saying that the Plasma cannon will replace the FG. Actually, if you watch the footage we have so far you can see that it can fire more than one shot before reloading, but your other points still stand. All those spouting doom for the Forge also have to keep in mind that it's a Light Weapon, which would automatically imply it likely does less damage than a Forge. Let's just hope the Plasma Cannon gets Swarm damage and Swarms get a damage reduction and a flight speed boost. Maybe then we'll actually have balanced AV. I watched that footage. No projectile comes out when he doesn't use his ammo. It seems like he stopped holding the R1 button the cancel the shot, which you can see by looking at the meter that fills up near the ammo counter. Only when he actually fired did it fully fill up. |
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Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I see it took exactly one comment to derail this thread.
It's not hard to derail a topic that is entirely speculation on a build none of us have yet. Some people just like to waste time in a ruder, more condensed form. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:41:00 -
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Snaps Tremor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I see it took exactly one comment to derail this thread. It's not hard to derail a topic that is entirely speculation on a build none of us have yet. Some people just like to waste time in a ruder, more condensed form. Its not speculation. Its the knowledge gathered from what the devs said + gameplay footage. |

Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:45:00 -
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the plasma cannon is more of an rpg style gun. fit it on a scout and kill any missile or railgun tank by kiting. also nice for the on the go lav kills.
The forge will still have its place as longrange tankbuster. |

Snaps Tremor
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Snaps Tremor wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I see it took exactly one comment to derail this thread. It's not hard to derail a topic that is entirely speculation on a build none of us have yet. Some people just like to waste time in a ruder, more condensed form. Its not speculation. Its the knowledge gathered from what the devs said + gameplay footage.
Tea leaves and tarot until we get stats and hands-on experience. |

Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:48:00 -
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Watched the footage in frame by frame mode. It seems the PL is bugged. |

Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1335
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:51:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I'm seeing more and more lately people calling out that the Forge gun will be useless because of the light Plasma cannon. Now let me ask you a question: Does the Plasma cannon have a projectile that moves almost instantly across the battlefield? Does it hit EXACTLY where you aim? (I.E does the projectile move forward without being affected by gravity?) Does it have multiple shots in its clip?
Let me give you a hint: NO
The Forge Gun is more or less Sniper AV, it can hit tanks across the battlefield with high precision. The Plasma cannon projectile drops very quickly and is comparatively slow to both the swarms and the forge gun, it also has to be reloaded after each shot. Please stop being stupid by saying that the Plasma cannon will replace the FG.
Having tried plasma canon i can assure you that the forge gun still is a way better weapon than the plasma launcher. As it should be.
Plasma canon does less damage, and is certainly harder to master regarding aiming at moving objects. |

Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.30 14:53:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm seeing more and more lately people calling out that the Forge gun will be useless because of the light Plasma cannon. Now let me ask you a question: Does the Plasma cannon have a projectile that moves almost instantly across the battlefield? Does it hit EXACTLY where you aim? (I.E does the projectile move forward without being affected by gravity?) Does it have multiple shots in its clip?
Let me give you a hint: NO
The Forge Gun is more or less Sniper AV, it can hit tanks across the battlefield with high precision. The Plasma cannon projectile drops very quickly and is comparatively slow to both the swarms and the forge gun, it also has to be reloaded after each shot. Please stop being stupid by saying that the Plasma cannon will replace the FG. Actually, if you watch the footage we have so far you can see that it can fire more than one shot before reloading, but your other points still stand. All those spouting doom for the Forge also have to keep in mind that it's a Light Weapon, which would automatically imply it likely does less damage than a Forge. Let's just hope the Plasma Cannon gets Swarm damage and Swarms get a damage reduction and a flight speed boost. Maybe then we'll actually have balanced AV.
I dont like this! we been thinkin alike and agreeing on **** too much lately! stop it....stop it now! 
On a srs note if the swarms still do more dmg then yes id prefer the bolded alot more Still the ideal non scrub swarms would be having to maintain a lock on and speed up flight time |

Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2646
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:12:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Actually, if you watch the footage we have so far you can see that it can fire more than one shot before reloading, but your other points still stand. All those spouting doom for the Forge also have to keep in mind that it's a Light Weapon, which would automatically imply it likely does less damage than a Forge.
Let's just hope the Plasma Cannon gets Swarm damage and Swarms get a damage reduction and a flight speed boost. Maybe then we'll actually have balanced AV. It's actually been confirmed that the Plasma Cannon only holds one shot and has to be reloaded each time. I believe it was posted by Jenza - deifnitely showed up in her thread about Fanfest, anyway.
Also, people are forgetting that the description specifies a sharp damage falloff over range, so it's not going to be effective over long distances even when it does reach the target - which it usually won't unless you're right on top of them. |

Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
136
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Posted - 2013.04.30 16:28:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm seeing more and more lately people calling out that the Forge gun will be useless because of the light Plasma cannon. Now let me ask you a question: Does the Plasma cannon have a projectile that moves almost instantly across the battlefield? Does it hit EXACTLY where you aim? (I.E does the projectile move forward without being affected by gravity?) Does it have multiple shots in its clip?
Let me give you a hint: NO
The Forge Gun is more or less Sniper AV, it can hit tanks across the battlefield with high precision. The Plasma cannon projectile drops very quickly and is comparatively slow to both the swarms and the forge gun, it also has to be reloaded after each shot. Please stop being stupid by saying that the Plasma cannon will replace the FG. Actually, if you watch the footage we have so far you can see that it can fire more than one shot before reloading, but your other points still stand. All those spouting doom for the Forge also have to keep in mind that it's a Light Weapon, which would automatically imply it likely does less damage than a Forge. Let's just hope the Plasma Cannon gets Swarm damage and Swarms get a damage reduction and a flight speed boost. Maybe then we'll actually have balanced AV. I dont like this! we been thinkin alike and agreeing on **** too much lately! stop it....stop it now!  On a srs note if the swarms still do more dmg then yes id prefer the bolded alot more Still the ideal non scrub swarms would be having to maintain a lock on and speed up flight time Actually, the swarm missile buff is shown in the gameplay footage. I'll leave that there and let you find it.  |
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