I was reading the forums and it sounds like both shield control and field mechanics are both going to turn into something different and the 5% bonus to shield/armour skills will be gone.

I know there will be certain suits to get the bonus but not a general blanket skill for all suits

Is this true?

I hopes that's not true, but if it is... Dammit CCP! We told you to add more passive skills, not less! Should I kiss Combat Engineering and Circuitry goodbye too?

Hello CoD 514!

This better not be your way of making things "fairer" for new players!

*rant over*

Like I said, I hope that's not true.

Personally, I'm a believer that there should be no passive boosts to hp or damage in competitive shooters. So i'd be fine with this. It also doesn't really matter because in the long run everyone will have all the same skills so they'll just cancel each other out. That's why it's better to use suits/weapons/modules as the primary delivery device for passive bonuses, because you can't equip every item at once. I think this is what CCP is trying to do and it should make the game better.

I can all but guaranty this is not true. I was mathing some screen shots from fanfest of the fitting windows and came up with the numbers 72/72/73/72 for each complex shield extender added to the Assault CK.0 (caldari proto assault). While complex shield mods could have gotten buffed to 72HP, 72 also matches a 20% increase in shield capacity and is the only explanation for the errant 73hp increase on one of the CSE(bonus got rounded up instead of down.)


ALL HAIL THE POWER OF MATHING!!

Do you really want to go up against someone with a damage mod stacked Duvolle without a passive bonus to your shields and armor?

Do you really want to go up against someone with a damage mod stacked Duvolle without a passive bonus to your shields and armor?

I hopes that's not true, but if it is... Dammit CCP! We told you to add more passive skills, not less! Should I kiss Combat Engineering and Circuitry goodbye too?

Hello CoD 514!

This better not be your way of making things "fairer" for new players!

*rant over*

Like I said, I hope that's not true.

@cosgar the passives always have.

unless you can prove me wrong.

it kinda is in a way making it fairer for new players

But squad play will trump all in the end

but in all honesty what if you where that new player
learning how the game works is a challenge in it self
and then when you finally figure it out you find out that every one you are up against
has 25% more amour and shield and is able to fit 25% more into there suit fit complex mods and they are running suits with more slots than you with the addition of proto weps (but proto vs militia weps are not much diff atm)

It's kind of hard to speak to such a situation because there's so many things that go into it. Such as a duv without SS should be much less if a threat. Also, complex shield mods still account for the majority of passively boosting shields. Basically there's so much balancing going on and much more that is probably needed, but in the long run I am in favor of lessening passive boosts through skills and potentially giving more items small passive attributes.

With changing sharpshooter and weaponry, and giving racial suit bonuses, it appears this is what CCP is going for.

Edit: just to be clear, when I talk about lessening passives, I mean mostly just for hp and dmg.

Shield control doesn't increase shield extenders HP, they still just add 66hp. BAM sucker! The same is true for Field Mechanics.

I was reading the forums and it sounds like both shield control and field mechanics are both going to turn into something different and the 5% bonus to shield/armour skills will be gone.

I know there will be certain suits to get the bonus but not a general blanket skill for all suits

Is this true?

Shield control doesn't increase shield extenders HP, they still just add 66hp. BAM sucker! The same is true for Field Mechanics.

Yeah, I'm not in game right now but a logi dropsuit has 125 base shields. With lvl 5 shield control, it's 156.25. If I put 3 complex extenders on my A-Series I have 354.25 and not 403.75 shields. Also, if shield extenders were affected by shield control, a complex extender would give you +82.5 shields. I'm only adding decimals because they obviously don't get rounded down. Anyone who's been down to 0 armor can speak for that.

Pakoosh, pakoosh!!, PAKOOSH!!!
Dead Duvolle AR user.

Militia shotgun

you are right they dont get rounded in down in reality but by your own admission they do get rounded down as displayed.

you could be right and if you are shield extenders got buffed to 72hp