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The dark cloud
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:29:00 -
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Is its just me or is 600HP damage combined with a 7.2 meters blast radius a bit ridicoulus? Its probs one of the most powerfull weapons in the game that can 1 hit kill allmost every dropsuit. And armor tanking doesnt work due to the 30% added damage against armor. So it basically does 780HP vs armor. Means that most heavys are dead or close to die. To balance it the grenades should only have a 5m blast radius like the standard variant. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1089
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:33:00 -
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It does less damage as you get away from the center, it does nothing past those 7.2 meters.
I think... |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
493
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:33:00 -
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The m1s are mini nukes.... The core are actual nukes  |
Berserker007
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
269
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:34:00 -
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they are powerful; yet fine; takes 1.24M SP to get them, and cost 24k a piece. If anything could reduce blast "radius" to 6.6M to give some type of benefit besides just damage increase per level.
Granted w/ new build in 10 days, we are all unsure of how they will perform then |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries
45
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:35:00 -
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Those things tickle my HAV. I really don't care. AV nades however..... |
The dark cloud
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
1284
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:48:00 -
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Berserker007 wrote:they are powerful; yet fine; takes 1.24M SP to get them, and cost 24k a piece. If anything could reduce blast "radius" to 6.6M to give some type of benefit besides just damage increase per level.
Granted w/ new build in 10 days, we are all unsure of how they will perform then
they actually cost 18k a piece and you forget that you get AV and flux grenades aswell for that amount SP at the same time. And i havent seen somebody surviving them. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1089
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:51:00 -
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No, it's just you. |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
262
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:53:00 -
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they dont need a nerf they are fine, everyone needs to stop asking for nerfs...nerf this nerf that...ughh |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
208
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Posted - 2013.04.29 02:53:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Is its just me or is 600HP damage combined with a 7.2 meters blast radius a bit ridicoulus? Its probs one of the most powerfull weapons in the game that can 1 hit kill allmost every dropsuit. And armor tanking doesnt work due to the 30% added damage against armor. So it basically does 780HP vs armor. Means that most heavys are dead or close to die. To balance it the grenades should only have a 5m blast radius like the standard variant.
this will not one hit kill almost every suit, you've obviously not used these very much. any suit with 400 shields can eat one just fine, so a type 2 assault can tank one effectively. you have to be standard or lower, or a lightly tanked heavy to drop in one hit. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
144
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Posted - 2013.04.29 03:32:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Is its just me or is 600HP damage combined with a 7.2 meters blast radius a bit ridicoulus? Its probs one of the most powerfull weapons in the game that can 1 hit kill allmost every dropsuit. And armor tanking doesnt work due to the 30% added damage against armor. So it basically does 780HP vs armor. Means that most heavys are dead or close to die. To balance it the grenades should only have a 5m blast radius like the standard variant. this will not one hit kill almost every suit, you've obviously not used these very much. any suit with 400 shields can eat one just fine, so a type 2 assault can tank one effectively. you have to be standard or lower, or a lightly tanked heavy to drop in one hit.
Ill add that they are well balanced because of fitting cost. Putting one of these on means some definite adjustments to ones fitting. And frankly i never understood why people ask for nerfs when asking for fitting tweaks makes a lot more sense.
Frankly a lot of weapons would have been fine and could have stayed exactly as they were if they just adjusted the CPU/PG requirements so it meant real sacrifice when it comes to creating fits.
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
181
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Posted - 2013.04.29 03:53:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Is its just me or is 600HP damage combined with a 7.2 meters blast radius a bit ridicoulus? Its probs one of the most powerfull weapons in the game that can 1 hit kill allmost every dropsuit. And armor tanking doesnt work due to the 30% added damage against armor. So it basically does 780HP vs armor. Means that most heavys are dead or close to die. To balance it the grenades should only have a 5m blast radius like the standard variant.
OP if you constantly cook all 3 grenades at just one guy. Dust is one of the few shooters I know of that allows more than 1 or 2 lethal/non-lethal grenades to be carried and be so easily resupplied. |
Sontie
Ill Omens
EoN.
235
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Posted - 2013.04.29 03:54:00 -
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You got to look at how they scale with everything else. STD variant will kill most STD dropsuits. ADV granades will kill most ADV suits. Proto should do the same.
Just because your using a proto suit doesn't mean you shouldn't be OHKO'able.
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Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
74
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Posted - 2013.04.29 03:55:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Those things tickle my HAV. I really don't care. AV nades however.....
leave my AV nades alone! |
Sparhawk TheRubyKnigt
pandionXknights
1
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Posted - 2013.04.29 04:00:00 -
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Sontie wrote:You got to look at how they scale with everything else. STD variant will kill most STD dropsuits. ADV granades will kill most ADV suits. Proto should do the same.
Just because your using a proto suit doesn't mean you shouldn't be OHKO'able.
amen to that twice. nothing makes me smile more than creeping up behind a proto assault and OHKO'ing him with my proto breach shotgun with 3x complex damage mods |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
208
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Posted - 2013.04.29 04:16:00 -
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Sontie wrote:You got to look at how they scale with everything else. STD variant will kill most STD dropsuits. ADV granades will kill most ADV suits. Proto should do the same.
Just because your using a proto suit doesn't mean you shouldn't be OHKO'able.
core locus grenades won't even drop the shields on a proto scout, they're not OP at all. |
Sontie
Ill Omens
EoN.
236
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Posted - 2013.04.29 04:23:00 -
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what if it's right under their feet? mmmm, fluxed grenades *slobber* |
TODDSTER024
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
51
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Posted - 2013.04.29 06:35:00 -
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Wait till you throw duds.... |
getu pfool
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1
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Posted - 2013.04.29 06:44:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:Wait till you throw duds....
I know I started throwing duds when I hit lvl 4 grenades I never threw them b4 that and it was the same on 1 if my other chara's when did you start? Might be something to look into ccp. |
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