DUST Search - Confused... Are new suits and weapons coming out at release or not?

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Jin Robot wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

VLIGHT5 wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

You people really should just listen to the actual presentation instead of just looking at the pictures and assuming.

ITEMS THAT ARE COMING:

scrambler rifle
flaylock pistol
plasma cannon

Minmatar light frame (scout)
Amarr medium frame (logistics, assault)
Gallente medium frame (logistics, assault)

EDIT: There is also a massive graphics improvement, more maps, a new mode variation, revamped skill system, revamped menus, PLANETARY CONQUEST, revamped faction warfare system, and various tweaks to existing items and systems.

So basically they're just adding a few things and calling it an official release

I don't think you appreciate how big planetary conquest is, or how much the graphics have improved, or how important all the changes were. Sure having lots more items at launch would be great, but this is still a lot of things.

Since PC is kinda the whole point of the game, its like saying we finally put meat on your burger. I think CCP erred in the hype, ppl just expected more, specially since we have been staring at the icon for MAV for ever. Me myself I think uprising is a great start to what will be continuous support and content improvement. My advice is for CCP to walk the hype/reality line a little bit differently in the future as ppl will have unrealistic expectations if they dont.

Can't blame CCP for people's bad comprehension. The entire Dust 514 keynote was about things that are coming next update, in fact it was all stuff that we already knew before, there was no hyping far off things.
The presentation with the images of the full lineup of suits, guns, and vehicles, they said upfront that this is stuff coming in the future, and not in Uprising. Anyone who actually paid attention to the presentations instead of just looking at the pictures would not have any such confusion. Even when talking about the future, they made the distinction between the near future (6. months to a year), and the far future (over the next few years) so we understand when it is reasonable to expect something.


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Jin Robot Polar Gooks 336	Posted - 2013.04.29 00:53:00 - [1] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: VLIGHT5 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: You people really should just listen to the actual presentation instead of just looking at the pictures and assuming. ITEMS THAT ARE COMING: scrambler rifle flaylock pistol plasma cannon Minmatar light frame (scout) Amarr medium frame (logistics, assault) Gallente medium frame (logistics, assault) EDIT: There is also a massive graphics improvement, more maps, a new mode variation, revamped skill system, revamped menus, PLANETARY CONQUEST, revamped faction warfare system, and various tweaks to existing items and systems. So basically they're just adding a few things and calling it an official release I don't think you appreciate how big planetary conquest is, or how much the graphics have improved, or how important all the changes were. Sure having lots more items at launch would be great, but this is still a lot of things. Since PC is kinda though whole point of the game, its like saying we finally put meat on your burger. I think CCP erred in the hype, ppl just expected more, specially since we have been staring at the icon for MAV for ever. Me myself I think uprising is a great start to what will be continuous support and content improvement. My advice is for CCP to walk the hype/reality line a little bit differently in the future as ppl will have unrealistic expectations if they dont.
Jin Robot Polar Gooks 336	Posted - 2013.04.29 02:08:00 - [2] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Jin Robot wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: VLIGHT5 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: You people really should just listen to the actual presentation instead of just looking at the pictures and assuming. ITEMS THAT ARE COMING: scrambler rifle flaylock pistol plasma cannon Minmatar light frame (scout) Amarr medium frame (logistics, assault) Gallente medium frame (logistics, assault) EDIT: There is also a massive graphics improvement, more maps, a new mode variation, revamped skill system, revamped menus, PLANETARY CONQUEST, revamped faction warfare system, and various tweaks to existing items and systems. So basically they're just adding a few things and calling it an official release I don't think you appreciate how big planetary conquest is, or how much the graphics have improved, or how important all the changes were. Sure having lots more items at launch would be great, but this is still a lot of things. Since PC is kinda the whole point of the game, its like saying we finally put meat on your burger. I think CCP erred in the hype, ppl just expected more, specially since we have been staring at the icon for MAV for ever. Me myself I think uprising is a great start to what will be continuous support and content improvement. My advice is for CCP to walk the hype/reality line a little bit differently in the future as ppl will have unrealistic expectations if they dont. Can't blame CCP for people's bad comprehension. The entire Dust 514 keynote was about things that are coming next update, in fact it was all stuff that we already knew before, there was no hyping far off things. The presentation with the images of the full lineup of suits, guns, and vehicles, they said upfront that this is stuff coming in the future, and not in Uprising. Anyone who actually paid attention to the presentations instead of just looking at the pictures would not have any such confusion. Even when talking about the future, they made the distinction between the near future (6. months to a year), and the far future (over the next few years) so we understand when it is reasonable to expect something. Blame is not the right word. I would say the task of shaping peoples expectations falls to them. I was only commenting because I too was misguided a little because I watched interviews where the devs consistently made statements about big things coming, and then its not very big content wise. People dont consider graphical improvements big news(grass and polish is kinda expected) AAA game right?, menu screens and color skins are not big news, PC is not big news, as I said, it is the game. So a couple weapons and suits is the content part. Dont get me wrong, I think this update is a good start, and thats the hype line I would have taken if I was CCP. Less glamorous, but hard to misinterpret.