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Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:14:00 -
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Is Overpower!
Am I the first? Yaaay. I take some advantage over the next build and I complain about all the new stuff.
New overpower stuff coming in the next build. Then wait 3 month to see some "balance".
LOVE Dust 514! |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:49:00 -
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Actually, you seriously aren't the first. Back in codex (last build of closed beta) someone made a thread as soon as the concept art came out.
Anyway, I don't think it will be as OP as everyone legitimately thinks- 3 shot clip, and the video showed a prototype one being used. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:58:00 -
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You have to own a time machine to be the first person to complain about any and every aspect of this game, so... |
Frew2
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.14 05:41:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or these other F2P games coming this year.........
Planetside 2 (19 GOTY Awards)
Coming to PS4 this year...
Jin Robot wrote:You have to own a time machine to be the first person to complain about any and every aspect of this game, so...
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Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.14 05:44:00 -
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Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Is Overpower!
Am I the first? Yaaay. I take some advantage over the next build and I complain about all the new stuff.
New overpower stuff coming in the next build. Then wait 3 month to see some "balance".
LOVE Dust 514!
Chill patch 1.3 will drop before months end, ps its a balancing patch |
Flawless Mirage
Valhalla Gardains
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Posted - 2013.07.14 06:49:00 -
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Heh. in the end though, he's right. |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.07.14 09:28:00 -
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Shadow of War88 wrote:Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote:Is Overpower!
Am I the first? Yaaay. I take some advantage over the next build and I complain about all the new stuff.
New overpower stuff coming in the next build. Then wait 3 month to see some "balance".
LOVE Dust 514! Chill patch 1.3 will drop before months end, ps its a balancing patch
You know this post is super old?? |
n00b tube
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:05:00 -
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You'll never take me alive!!!! *BOOM* *BOOM* *BOOM* |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
229
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Posted - 2013.07.14 10:21:00 -
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They just need to bring the PG/CPU use in line with other proto sidearms. In terms of damage it isn't OP compared to other proto sidearms. Definitely doesn't need a strong nerf...people simply need to switch on their brains and come up with counters, counters that really already exist if you bother thinking about it. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
339
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:09:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:They just need to bring the PG/CPU use in line with other proto sidearms. In terms of damage it isn't OP compared to other proto sidearms. Definitely doesn't need a strong nerf...people simply need to switch on their brains and come up with counters, counters that really already exist if you bother thinking about it. Btw, I'm making a prediction here: IF they nerf the flaylock too much, tons of people will switch to the proto SMG or SP...at which point we'll get a ton of "OMGOMGOMGOMwhinewhinewhineSMG/SPisOPPPPPPP" threads Why? Because in terms of damage they really aren't any worse than the flaylock, they just need different tactics to make it work.
Those tactics being...Flaylock: spam trigger, aim at feet... Scrambler pistol: Don't trigger spam, aim for face.
Your argument doesn't hold much water considering the lack of 2.5M 220HP splash damage on SMGs and Scrambler pistols.... |
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
229
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:12:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:They just need to bring the PG/CPU use in line with other proto sidearms. In terms of damage it isn't OP compared to other proto sidearms. Definitely doesn't need a strong nerf...people simply need to switch on their brains and come up with counters, counters that really already exist if you bother thinking about it. Btw, I'm making a prediction here: IF they nerf the flaylock too much, tons of people will switch to the proto SMG or SP...at which point we'll get a ton of "OMGOMGOMGOMwhinewhinewhineSMG/SPisOPPPPPPP" threads Why? Because in terms of damage they really aren't any worse than the flaylock, they just need different tactics to make it work. Those tactics being...Flaylock: spam trigger, aim at feet... Scrambler pistol: Don't trigger spam, aim for face. Your argument doesn't hold much water considering the lack of 220HP splash damage on SMGs and Scrambler pistols....
But both those guns have other advantages versus the flaylocks. The SMG user doesn't automatically die if he misses and the scrambler pistol is way better at range. And even accounting for that, in terms of damage they aren't far off.
Trying to balance weapons based on single shot damage alone is ridiculous!! |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:30:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:They just need to bring the PG/CPU use in line with other proto sidearms. In terms of damage it isn't OP compared to other proto sidearms. Definitely doesn't need a strong nerf...people simply need to switch on their brains and come up with counters, counters that really already exist if you bother thinking about it. Btw, I'm making a prediction here: IF they nerf the flaylock too much, tons of people will switch to the proto SMG or SP...at which point we'll get a ton of "OMGOMGOMGOMwhinewhinewhineSMG/SPisOPPPPPPP" threads Why? Because in terms of damage they really aren't any worse than the flaylock, they just need different tactics to make it work. Those tactics being...Flaylock: spam trigger, aim at feet... Scrambler pistol: Don't trigger spam, aim for face. Your argument doesn't hold much water considering the lack of 220HP splash damage on SMGs and Scrambler pistols.... But both those guns have other advantages versus the flaylocks. The SMG user doesn't automatically die if he misses and the scrambler pistol is way better at range. And even accounting for that, in terms of damage they aren't far off. Trying to balance weapons based on single shot damage alone is ridiculous!!
How far have you skilled into each of these weapons? Admittedly proto Scramblers are very strong but require high skill. The SMG at proto is also pretty powerful and is much more forgiving. The Flay at proto level is absurdly powerful, and requires very little skill to be very successful.
On the subject of range the Flaylock outshines them all, At basic level the Flay has a 59m optimal, 20 on the Scrambler, 21 on the SMG. Granted that 59M is also it's effective and absolute, so the Scrambler and SMG may go farther but the Flay carries it's Max damage much farther.
Finally if you really don't think it's much more powerful than other sidearms, just skill into the proto.
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
229
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:36:00 -
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I had knives and SMG at lvl4 proficiency before the optional respec...and now have flaylocks and the SP at the same level. They're all really powerful but require different tactics. In terms of damage and effectiveness they're all pretty much on par. The knife requires the most skill though. For the past few weeks I have dumped the FL in favor of the SP because it's so much more consistent and effective at range while not really sacrificing much damage up close.
The only thing I would really change is the PG/CPU use of proto flaylocks as it isn't in line with other proto sidearms.
FYI, I haven't used a light weapon in weeks other than the militia swarm and forge gun with damage mods....cheap anti-vehicle setup.
PS: To claim the flaylock is more effective at range is NONSENSE! It's super inconsistent and due to bullet flight time you'll only kill dumb opponents that move in predicable patters....which mean the gun isn't OP, it's more about opponents being morons |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
365
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Posted - 2013.07.14 11:47:00 -
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If the fixes for the Flaylock comes in early September... this thread should be framed for prosperity, as one of the more accurate predictions in Dust 514 history. |
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