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Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:01:00 -
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Just sayin, It's not that hard.
Here let me help you:
When a player is dropped off, it spawns a 30-90 second timer where any kills they get give you assist points. (THAT ONE'S FREE!)
Why do this? It encourages the use of drop-ships for 'dropping' instead of overextending these tin cans to try and be warships as you currently make us do -if we want any WP per match. |
Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:50:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:The wp for dropships is being improved, check the 'Advancing the Core" video from Fanfest. What was not said is if it is in Uprising or not, the new build is out of their hands and in Sony QC by now. So, it is either in it already, or will be in next build in 3-6 months.
If it is not in this build, maybe spec something else and train Dropships skills just before the nest build. Wait, that's after launch, so they will be called free expansions. Same thing as builds with a new name. Game will keep improving overtime, they just are confident enough to drop the beta defense May 14th.
The patch notes, wait I can not also.
Right just like they said they'd fix it years ago...
Yes I realize they mentioned recognition of the problem during their Advancing the Core talk. But this is nothing new. And that only spells a time line of 3 months to >1 year.
I'm saying they could put something in place before then. Especially given the fact that in all likelyhood, and according to all known information assault dropships are just higher SP req, flying suicide booths, worse than their current DS brethren. |
Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:52:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:GUYS on may 6th there will be the option to fly "assault dropships" and that basically means you'll have a forward turret that the pilot can shoot himself. The passenger space for this ship is only 4, but I think the trade off is worth it. That's your chance to start making some points, just gotta get used to killing people with the forward guns. That and if you stick a mobile CRU onboard I think that would give you a bunch more points also.
ummm. Good luck running a mobile CRU in assault dropship and managing to survive a couple even militia swarm/FG before you fail to get a kill with the nose gun.
If it has, as it says, less shield, less armor, less PG, less CPU, and 3 turrets.
You jam a MCRU on that thing and you have one expensive clay bird for the enemies target practice. |
Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.28 17:54:00 -
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Sephirian Fair wrote:gbghg wrote:Sephirian Fair wrote:gbghg wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:if dropships still don't have any WP system, there's no reason for them, unless you go Assault and beast out with the front turret. I plan to try this, I expect it to go horribly wrong. With a reduced flight ceiling for Assault Dropships and a mandatory three turrets, I've nearly lost all hope concerning the Assault Dropships being an effective means of Air Support. The only chance they have is if they have insane acceleration and the top speed of an LAV, but CCP's track record with dropships leaves me doubtful, unfortunately. Yeah fitting that thing is going to be horrible, particularly the caldari one, I shudder to think about how little PG it will have to fit tank modules, specially with adv/proto turrets. On top of have lower base Shields/Armor, it's going to be a nightmare trying to find a good fitting. It's going to be as fragile as a vehicle out of Battlefield. It needs to be fast as hell. Speed tanking is going to be the only way to go. The ability to take a hit or two, get the hell out of dodge, and come back in for another run. I just don't think they're going to be fast enough. Just a really bad feeling. I don't think it is going to be fast and agile enough to be effective. But in all seriousness, the three mandatory turrets was possibly the worst possible design decision they could have made with the Assault Dropships. There isn't enough PG to go around and the Caldari one is especially screwed. Once you stick that Scattered Ion Blaster on the front and stick two basic missiles on the sides, you're out of half your PG right there. Unless base CPU and PG values have been increased, it's going to be another very long, very frustrating 3-6 months for pilots. I feel for you guys. I used to be a pilot in previous builds, but CCP took away my Southpaw control scheme this build and I've been grounded since. I was so freakin' excited when I heard of Assault Dropships, but CCP finds it necessary to handicap something that has already such a limited use.
forge guns in general and the abundance(and OPness) of militia forge guns in particular make 'speed tanking' a non-option.
They're too powerful and easy to aim. No speed ever saved a DS from my fg and I suck at first person shooters.
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Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.28 18:13:00 -
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Sephirian Fair wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:forge guns in general and the abundance(and OPness) of militia forge guns in particular make 'speed tanking' a non-option.
They're too powerful and easy to aim. No speed ever saved a DS from my fg and I suck at first person shooters.
In Battlefield, Choppers drop dead in two hits, Jets in a single one. But the best pilots can survive entire matches of Rush or Conquest purely because of their ability to speed tank. (EDIT: And a few proper countermeasure, when they weren't bugged.) The vehicles are fast and agile enough that they can dominate even against the most dedicated AV specialist. But the dropships in Dust are slow as hell and have the acceleration of a god damn armor tank. Give an ace pilot an air vehicle that moves as fast as LAV with some decent acceleration and all he needs is the ability to tank a hit or two and he'll/she'll be good to go.
Also correct me if I'm wrong but in BF there are no forge guns with near instant tracking. Don't they have to use missiles or RPGs? And wouldn't even a heli have flares to throw off heat seeking things? |
Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:"Hey CCP, you have a week to conceptualize, develop, implement, QA test, finalize, send to Sony, let Sony QA test, let Sony finalize and let Sony deploy to add WP for pilots."
You realize Uprising was done a long time ago right? CCP FoxFour stated that they're already working on other things and it's just been waiting for Sony to get their **** together in order to actually deploy the update.
Ask ANYONE who plays Mass Effect 3(weekend events) or Skyrim (DLC) how hard it is to get **** from Sony when compared to any other gaming publisher and you'll understand that this isn't an easy task.
Quit *****ing and just be patient - maybe work on your infantry skills since it's so expensive flying Dropships anyway.
You're cute.
You realize infantry skills and vehicles are being separate in a week so ...
Why are you bringing sony into this? They don't need sony to approve their idea for pilot WP. I think everyone's been patient for a while now. I understand pretty well how difficult this sort of work can be, but for minutia like this it's really not as hard as people make it. Implementing and testing it could be done in a day. However designing the perfect system for WP? That could take forever. Especially if they haven't started it yet.
But they should have at least started the idea process. A year ago. Or two. Or three. |
Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.04.28 23:35:00 -
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It's asking for a band-aid not full release
edit: name calling, caught myself |
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