DUST Search - Spawn Immunity

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

If the spawn point you're using is being camped, DON'T USE IT.

It really is that simple.

In Skirmish, your team always - ALWAYS - has at least one spawn the enemy team can't camp and hit you inside. Usually 2.

In Ambush, your team gets spawn-camped when you control a CRU or an Uplink and the enemy team locate it and don't destroy/hack it. If you choose to spawn there, it's your faul the enemy killed you, because you chose to spawn there. If you don't want to spawn there, use the "random spawn" option (button prompt for this is shown at the bottom of the screen - press square).

The current iteration of the new spawn system in Ambush still has issues, and often you'll be spawned at a CRU or next to an Uplink because there are more teammates in that area than anywhere else on the map, and the spawn system prioritises spawning near teammates as being more important than spawning away from enemies, but when they fix that (and I hope they do), you'll find yourself better able to spawn in a safer part of the map.

The spawn cloak should help as well, but I don't think it's as important.

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Rosethorns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.28 12:52:00 - [1] - Quote I really like this game, being a huge ME fan, this game has that feel to it a bit. Among some other little things I dont quite like about the game, the most outstanding one is the spawning. I HATE SPAWN CAMPERS/FARMERS! I is utterly annoying, cheap, and unfair to be killed before you can even spawn. I think it is just ridiculous how people will just sit near some cloning stations and just pick off the guys coming through; and the thing about it is you are completely vunerable during the whole duration of your materialization. I wish that the devs would put in a short spawn immunity, if only a few seconds worth, enough time to materialize, look around at your surroundings, and act accordingly. I have...shamefully I might add...raged quit a few games because of this matter alone. Its just a very cheap tactic and I believe a short spawn immunity wouldn't be so bad. Please, what is the community's thoughts on this matter or am I just the only one really paying attention to this?
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. CRONOS. 132	Posted - 2013.04.28 12:55:00 - [2] - Quote Didn't watch the keynote eh ? Well good news coming for you May 6.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 45	Posted - 2013.04.28 12:56:00 - [3] - Quote i think you should use spawn uplinks and dont spawn in places that have a bunch of red dots standing next to it waiting for you to spawn and i will be waiting at the CRUsand camped objectives untill you figure out how to do that
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 380	Posted - 2013.04.28 12:56:00 - [4] - Quote may 6th will make you spawn invisible until u move
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 161	Posted - 2013.04.28 12:57:00 - [5] - Quote 1. Paragraphing 2. Its already fixed and slated to arrive in the Uprising build May 6th 3. Invisibility cloak 4. You will probably still die alot
Rosethorns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.28 12:57:00 - [6] - Quote Ahhh missed the keynote actually..well that is very relieving...very much so!
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 45	Posted - 2013.04.28 12:57:00 - [7] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: may 6th will make you spawn invisible until u move but not immune to damage... so yoru still going to die before you spawn... it will just require more work on my part
The Rohypnol Kid Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 7	Posted - 2013.04.28 12:58:00 - [8] - Quote Rosethorns wrote: I really like this game, being a huge ME fan, this game has that feel to it a bit. Among some other little things I dont quite like about the game, the most outstanding one is the spawning. I HATE SPAWN CAMPERS/FARMERS! I is utterly annoying, cheap, and unfair to be killed before you can even spawn. I think it is just ridiculous how people will just sit near some cloning stations and just pick off the guys coming through; and the thing about it is you are completely vunerable during the whole duration of your materialization. I wish that the devs would put in a short spawn immunity, if only a few seconds worth, enough time to materialize, look around at your surroundings, and act accordingly. I have...shamefully I might add...raged quit a few games because of this matter alone. Its just a very cheap tactic and I believe a short spawn immunity wouldn't be so bad. Please, what is the community's thoughts on this matter or am I just the only one really paying attention to this? It may be cheap but its war
Rosethorns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:00:00 - [9] - Quote ....well its something. Guess i will just see ppl spray and pray around the clone units now....
Emi Love The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 49	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:01:00 - [10] - Quote Question for chances and gelan. Are you two eve pilots? To the OP, they have made it so when you spawn in you are invisible for a few seconds or until you move..

Crash Monster Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:02:00 - [11] - Quote Perhaps they should only cloak you on the dedicated spawn points -- I don't see a problem spawn camping on the rest of the map. You spawn up-field you are taking a risk anyway.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 380	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:04:00 - [12] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: may 6th will make you spawn invisible until u move but not immune to damage... so yoru still going to die before you spawn... it will just require more work on my part they won't see u so u can line up ur shots when ur invisible and shoot
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 45	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:04:00 - [13] - Quote Emi Love wrote: Question for chances and gelan. Are you two eve pilots? To the OP, they have made it so when you spawn in you are invisible for a few seconds or until you move.. yes and no, i play off and on as a solo frig pilot in low doing fac war using PI for passive income. used to be a ninja salvager at one point as well.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 45	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:05:00 - [14] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: may 6th will make you spawn invisible until u move but not immune to damage... so yoru still going to die before you spawn... it will just require more work on my part they won't see u so u can line up ur shots when ur invisible and shoot you have to move to line up your shots... moving makes you visable... try again
Gelan Corbaine BetaMax. CRONOS. 132	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:07:00 - [15] - Quote Emi Love wrote: Question for chances and gelan. Are you two eve pilots? Aye...... I am
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 161	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:07:00 - [16] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: Draxus Prime wrote: may 6th will make you spawn invisible until u move but not immune to damage... so yoru still going to die before you spawn... it will just require more work on my part they won't see u so u can line up ur shots when ur invisible and shoot you have to move to line up your shots... moving makes you visable... try again I seen them in the video looking around and staying cloaked. But once he took a step it went away. BUT, there is a work around, just have someone with a scanner set with you and scan them down as they spawn in.
Rosethorns Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:07:00 - [17] - Quote ^^ thats true...im sure they are gonna work out the little stuff.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 380	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:07:00 - [18] - Quote the maps are huge now(bigger then battlefield 3) and also all cru's have scanners to show enemys around it so spawn camping will be alot harder
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 45	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:09:00 - [19] - Quote Don Von Hulio wrote: BUT, there is a work around, just have someone with a scanner set with you and scan them down as they spawn in. this
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 1278	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:20:00 - [20] - Quote I just realised something fantastic about cloaking, I can reds over by accident "wait what? Why did I just get a kill?" "Dude a body just appeared behind your LAV." "Waitaminute, did I just run over a cloaked suit? LMAO"

Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 48	Posted - 2013.04.28 13:23:00 - [21] - Quote also the equipment cloaks wont hide your scan profile... no idea if this applys to spawn cloaks though
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2633	Posted - 2013.04.28 14:09:00 - [22] - Quote If the spawn point you're using is being camped, DON'T USE IT. It really is that simple. In Skirmish, your team always - ALWAYS - has at least one spawn the enemy team can't camp and hit you inside. Usually 2. In Ambush, your team gets spawn-camped when you control a CRU or an Uplink and the enemy team locate it and don't destroy/hack it. If you choose to spawn there, it's your faul the enemy killed you, because you chose to spawn there. If you don't want to spawn there, use the "random spawn" option (button prompt for this is shown at the bottom of the screen - press square). The current iteration of the new spawn system in Ambush still has issues, and often you'll be spawned at a CRU or next to an Uplink because there are more teammates in that area than anywhere else on the map, and the spawn system prioritises spawning near teammates as being more important than spawning away from enemies, but when they fix that (and I hope they do), you'll find yourself better able to spawn in a safer part of the map. The spawn cloak should help as well, but I don't think it's as important.
Peter Hanther Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 39	Posted - 2013.04.28 14:13:00 - [23] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: If the spawn point you're using is being camped, DON'T USE IT. It really is that simple. In Skirmish, your team always - ALWAYS - has at least one spawn the enemy team can't camp and hit you inside. Usually 2. In Ambush, your team gets spawn-camped when you control a CRU or an Uplink and the enemy team locate it and don't destroy/hack it. If you choose to spawn there, it's your faul the enemy killed you, because you chose to spawn there. If you don't want to spawn there, use the "random spawn" option (button prompt for this is shown at the bottom of the screen - press square). The current iteration of the new spawn system in Ambush still has issues, and often you'll be spawned at a CRU or next to an Uplink because there are more teammates in that area than anywhere else on the map, and the spawn system prioritises spawning near teammates as being more important than spawning away from enemies, but when they fix that (and I hope they do), you'll find yourself better able to spawn in a safer part of the map. The spawn cloak should help as well, but I don't think it's as important. They also made some other nice changes. spawn areas have a detection radius and will in fact show if reds are there camping it. They were always meant to do that but their was a bug preventing it from working
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 382	Posted - 2013.04.28 14:16:00 - [24] - Quote gbghg wrote: I just realised something fantastic about cloaking, I can reds over by accident "wait what? Why did I just get a kill?" "Dude a body just appeared behind your LAV." "Waitaminute, did I just run over a cloaked suit? LMAO" when cloak becomes equipment u should get more wp for killing a cloaked guy
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Unclaimed. 484	Posted - 2013.04.28 15:27:00 - [25] - Quote The Rohypnol Kid wrote: Rosethorns wrote: I really like this game, being a huge ME fan, this game has that feel to it a bit. Among some other little things I dont quite like about the game, the most outstanding one is the spawning. I HATE SPAWN CAMPERS/FARMERS! I is utterly annoying, cheap, and unfair to be killed before you can even spawn. I think it is just ridiculous how people will just sit near some cloning stations and just pick off the guys coming through; and the thing about it is you are completely vunerable during the whole duration of your materialization. I wish that the devs would put in a short spawn immunity, if only a few seconds worth, enough time to materialize, look around at your surroundings, and act accordingly. I have...shamefully I might add...raged quit a few games because of this matter alone. Its just a very cheap tactic and I believe a short spawn immunity wouldn't be so bad. Please, what is the community's thoughts on this matter or am I just the only one really paying attention to this? It may be cheap but its war Just wanted to second this. i'm not a fan of spawn camping myself. But I am when I'm under contract as a mercenary. In that situation i consider it a duty to my employer to obliterate the enemy as quickly and unfairly as possible. If i could find a way to inject those CRUs with a neurotoxin I would. So, although I understand where you're coming from, Rosethorns, I have to disappoint. But it's not personal, just business. Die Well.
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 980	Posted - 2013.04.28 15:28:00 - [26] - Quote Rosethorns wrote: I really like this game, being a huge ME fan, this game has that feel to it a bit. Among some other little things I dont quite like about the game, the most outstanding one is the spawning. I HATE SPAWN CAMPERS/FARMERS! I is utterly annoying, cheap, and unfair to be killed before you can even spawn. I think it is just ridiculous how people will just sit near some cloning stations and just pick off the guys coming through; and the thing about it is you are completely vunerable during the whole duration of your materialization. I wish that the devs would put in a short spawn immunity, if only a few seconds worth, enough time to materialize, look around at your surroundings, and act accordingly. I have...shamefully I might add...raged quit a few games because of this matter alone. Its just a very cheap tactic and I believe a short spawn immunity wouldn't be so bad. Please, what is the community's thoughts on this matter or am I just the only one really paying attention to this? Don't spawn near enemies? its not like you have a completely safe spot to spawn in.....


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