I have a 10.5 and rising K/D and I barely make money running proto suits while other full proto players I know make upwards of 5m a day, I usually die more than them but get a proportional more amount of kills, some days I LOSE money. that's ridiculous.


EDIT: I forgot this major point, they get 500 WP 10-1 and get about 200k ISK I get 30 kills and 3 deaths with 1500+ WP and only get 400k ISK. that's the real issue. the game feeds noobs.

My subs get punished for being aggressive.....

Amen, I only aim to please

I'm still pretty new, but it's enjoyable. More enjoyable than this thread, that's for sure

Too ADD to read, I write my own material of that nature anyways

I've yet to learn anything like that, but I definitely want to, there's just so many fun things you can do Patience I suppose I'm not very social so the meeting people is touch and go at best, but I practice when and where I can lol :p

Take that, thread.

I've looked around fetlife but there seems to be like no activity in my area, whenever I do go on and look around. I just haven't seen much activity in general, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

As a side note, this is a good example of why we need a message feature on these forums >_<

Plain stupid.

Ignore my earlier posts where I say I die 0 times in almost all matches?

Its not about how much isk I make vs how much I lose. Its the fact that there's no incentive to even bother PLAYING. No incentive to get a great score. No incentive to field my great gear even if I die ZERO times.

I make similar money afking in the mcc.

Think before you post. READ before you post.

TBF, most of these guys seem to be looking at the game from the perspective of instant battles being the meat and potatoes of the game, and at "proto gear" as the incentive for actually playing the game. I don't think they really yet see the bigger picture of the meta game, and how insignificant high sec instant battles for a couple hundred thousand ISK are likely to be.

I may speak for myself, I may have people who agree with me, but regardless, I think we need to have some important additions to the game: contracts.

We are MERCENARIES. We fight battles for MONEY.

I think, when we join a game, we should see some sort of contract.

50k ISK for simply enlisting in a battle.
another 150k ISK for winning the battle.
Bonuses for specific things that the employer wants out of the match. Do they want all of the railgun emplacements to survive the battle? 40k ISK bonus. Maybe they could have a rate they pay you for depleting the enemy's resources. Each kill will net you a quarter of that suit's cost. Killing a Bolas is worth 50k each.

tldr; I want contracts for our battles that inform us what we're getting paid and how to get bonuses. It'd be an easy addition to the game because they must have SOME system deciding how much we get paid, and some transparency in that system would be nice. People who want to play the system to make money can do so, that's just the free market, and it can be balanced pretty easily.

I can not believe that this thread is 8 pages long. There was nothing to say after reading the OP.

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