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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:10:00 -
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I have a 10.5 and rising K/D and I barely make money running proto suits while other full proto players I know make upwards of 5m a day, I usually die more than them but get a proportional more amount of kills, some days I LOSE money. that's ridiculous. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:15:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Punished for poor economic sense. Protosuits aren't meant to be sustainable, dying at all will slow down your ISK growth rate.
name one game where you get 10 kills and lose money. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:21:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Maybe spend some more on higher-end modules or something... that might help.
My mods are all proto. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 01:21:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Punished for poor economic sense. Protosuits aren't meant to be sustainable, dying at all will slow down your ISK growth rate. name one game where you get 10 kills and lose money. Dust 514. But only with idiots dumb enought to run proto every game.
Crush you in game later kthxbai. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:20:00 -
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Re Warping Shooter wrote:Earning ISK in ambush is much more easy. Since the matches are usually short, the game takes the amounts of WP and Kills you have made and focuses it on ISK, or thats how I think it works.
If you run around with the Millitia AR, you can easily take down scouts, bad-fitted logistics, weak heavies, and other normal assaults, thats how it woks with MAR + Farming.
I know. I play ambush. 30+ kills is like every other game for me. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:25:00 -
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low genius wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Punished for poor economic sense. Protosuits aren't meant to be sustainable, dying at all will slow down your ISK growth rate. name one game where you get 10 kills and lose money. eve.
how about when 3 of those are equal to your ship? |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:47:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:the game feeds noobs. They are pub matches and are not meant for you. Or at least not meant for you to play in proto gear. Actually i think it is pretty well designed from a game standpoint. You cannot get rich farming Barrens in World of Warcraft and you can't get rich messing around in the Eve starter areas. This is pretty basic MMO design. Why should Dust be any different?
I do the same thing as everyone else only at a quicker pace, why should I be punished for being quick? |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:48:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Ignoring the fact that you act handle your money, how is this a problem? Aggression should be unpunishable?
I do handle my money very well, nothing I have doesn't get used. I do the same as other people but lose money because I do it at a quicker pace. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:49:00 -
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Re Warping Shooter wrote:Bro, I dont know why you are whining about your bad economy, that you cant sustain proto suits even if you kill 3000 mercs in the process, blah blah blah.
But no matter what, the ISK will be partially always the same. Today I won a match with 2500 WP and got exactly 300.000 ISK. If you cant farm ISK with MAR its because you dont want to or because you need a duvolle on your hands to do work.
Economy is fine. This post its like seeing somebody cry about being unable to restock 4 tanks at the same time.
I can sustain proto-suits first of all. I end up with like a 7-15 k/d running a 2k suit in skirmish. I can do work without gear ;D |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:54:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:hooc roht wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:the game feeds noobs. They are pub matches and are not meant for you. Or at least not meant for you to play in proto gear. Actually i think it is pretty well designed from a game standpoint. You cannot get rich farming Barrens in World of Warcraft and you can't get rich messing around in the Eve starter areas. This is pretty basic MMO design. Why should Dust be any different? I do the same thing as everyone else only at a quicker pace, why should I be punished for being quick? Why shouldn't you? You're dying more, get better at the game.
I get more kills and warpoints. that's why. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 02:55:00 -
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Re Warping Shooter wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Re Warping Shooter wrote:Bro, I dont know why you are whining about your bad economy, that you cant sustain proto suits even if you kill 3000 mercs in the process, blah blah blah.
But no matter what, the ISK will be partially always the same. Today I won a match with 2500 WP and got exactly 300.000 ISK. If you cant farm ISK with MAR its because you dont want to or because you need a duvolle on your hands to do work.
Economy is fine. This post its like seeing somebody cry about being unable to restock 4 tanks at the same time. I can sustain proto-suits first of all. I end up with like a 7-15 k/d running a 2k suit in skirmish. I can do work without gear ;D THEN WHAT IS THE FREAKING SENSE OF THIS WHOLE POST FFS!
Because it's unfair that I do proportionally the same thing, but make less money. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 03:09:00 -
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Quote: I don't see how those two things are relevant. If you can't make ISK with your dropsuit loadout, you need to either tweek the suit or change your gameplay.
Believe me when I say that the following isn't meant as an insult: This isn't Call of Duty, blindly charging forward to pad your KDR isn't the default way to play. As you've pointed out, your teammates have figured out how to improve, follow their lead and get better at THIS game rather than playing it like a different game and expecting the results you get in that other game. Slow down and think more about your ISK.
YOU seem to not understand, I do the EXACT same thing as them, kill the same people, same K/D same WP but I get rewarded proportionally LESS money, what they're doing fits them, that's cool, I want to do me. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 03:35:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:His point is that rewards are not proportional to performance. Instead they are flattened by bringing the top down. IRL the curve goes the other direction, which makes this further unintitive.
******* finally someone gets it. thanks noc. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 03:38:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:His point is that rewards are not proportional to performance. Instead they are flattened by bringing the top down. IRL the curve goes the other direction, which makes this further unintitive. But this does not appear to be backed up with any factual information. The metrics by which you determine "performance" will change whether or not the rewards are proportioned properly. When wearing expensive gear, one important performance metric is NOT DYING, assuming you are concerned about your ISK.
Why are they rewarded 150k for getting 100 WP while I'm rewarded 250k for getting 1.5k wp? |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 03:40:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Welcome to new Eden... see if you can keep a 10.5 k/d using a type-II or better yet fill out a BPO Raven Type-1 Suit.
I'll still raise it because I'll change my gameplay lmao. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 03:48:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:His point is that rewards are not proportional to performance. Instead they are flattened by bringing the top down. IRL the curve goes the other direction, which makes this further unintitive. They are proportional to his performance, he died in a protosuit, he lost money. If he had died in a militia suit he would have lost less money. He's complaining that he isn't gaining ISK at a fast enough rate, dying less would increase that rate. Almighty gets 32 kills and earns 500 K ISK for that match, he also died once. Random gets 30 kills and earns 400 K ISk, he didn't die. Almighty got more ISK, but he now has to replace his 200K fitting, so he really only gained 300K for that match. He knows what he has to do to increase his ISK gain rate, die less, but he's being stupid and instead complaining for no reason.
almighty gets 32 kills in a game and dies twice. he gets 500k from the match and loses 400k in suits, 100k profit. random gets 3 kills in a game and dies 15 times. he gets 175k isk and loses 15k in suits, 160k profit.
THIS is my problem and also a very real example. |
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Posted - 2013.04.28 03:55:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:If I don't have infinitely high KDR ratio for some 5-7 matches in a row I go negative.
Do I cry? No.
My K/D is not the important thing here. |
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Posted - 2013.04.30 23:59:00 -
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icdedppul wrote:its elementary school here
your going to get rewarded for showing up, everyone gets a ribbon
do well.. well you get a slightly better ribbon but not by much because then the people with the I participated ribbon would feel bad
I feel you almighty but lets be honest your pretty much stealing candy from babies why do you need a weapon in hte first place just go melee them all
Nice words from someone who very well could be an enemy, thank you lol.
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:28:00 -
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Matakage v3 wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Reiki Jubo wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Punished for poor economic sense. Protosuits aren't meant to be sustainable, dying at all will slow down your ISK growth rate. name one game where you get 10 kills and lose money. Dust 514. But only with idiots dumb enought to run proto every game. Crush you in game later kthxbai. Challenge accepted. We both make new characters, use our 300k worth of skill points, then fight using only Militia gear. This won't be a problem, right? I mean, it's not like your proto-suits and skill points were compensating at all for your skill.
You obviously don't know who I am scrub. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:31:00 -
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Llan Heindell wrote:Own, Are you pubstomping with proto and you're losing muney...? I think I'm gonna cry... Seriously. This is just stupid. You are not being punished for being aggressive, you are being punished for being stupid. Its different. Learn the difference. I hope to kill you in-game to get that delicious suit of yours to give my team some extra ISK in the end. You do know that the Isk you make is related to the damage you caused, ISK wise, don't you? If you don't, then you don't even deserve to wear that black suit of yours. In other words, getting your precious K/D ratio that high, costs you because you are ruining new players fun. (This thread is sad. Lets make a minute of silence for our poor comrade that is not able to make money by pubstomping... NOT.)
ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:
I can sustain proto-suits first of all. I end up with like a 7-15 k/d running a 2k suit in skirmish. I can do work without gear ;D
Seriously? 7-15 with militia gear? And you're saying you can do stuff with them? My pubmatch suits costs around 5k ea. I usually go 15-2/18-4. When the game is really bad I usually get 10-10/12-11. I think you are joking about this whole thread, its just not possible. Live long and prosper. Llan Heindell. \
I change my gameplay according to my suit, so I maintain my k/d and overall kills because deaths really do equate to you losing kills. I prefer to play aggressive.
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