Hasn't been nerfed, but these players are so used to Sharpshooter Proficiency 5 giving them ridiculous range that it feels that ways. This will help to make the tactical a much better option.


Also lol, my troll thread may have been taken seriously.

You'll probably like the Caldari Gauss rifles then, which have higher range. Or at least that's how he made it sound. Removing sharpshooter sounds like a step in the right direction, but I reserve judgements until 5.14

Still trying figure out this map lol, Ashland?

AR is plasma based, so its short range.

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/forums/lineharvest_skirmish_thumb.jpg

H'mm, it's kind of hard to tell, but that doesn't seem like a nerf. Has anyone tried with no points Sharpshooter?

15% does make quite a bit of difference.

I wonder, can you at least hit people on D? Probably not

The furthest I've gone into ARs is Operation III. I put a GEK on the Assault - Frontline suit and I kitten everything except protobears.

Heavies are dead because I harrass them from long range then sprint into medium range, strafing, and they can't even take out my shields.

Shotgunners? Plz. You need corners to get to me and even then, my spray in close-range is almost as devastating as your wall of lead, unless you're in a scout suit.

Other assault rifles? Throw grenades and run away.

Mass drivers: get up close and shoot.

Lasers: same as MD.

Forge gunners: kill

Nova knife: Laugh and kill

Snipers: Get OHKOd, go sniper hunting, kill

It's effortless, man. EFFORTLESS! I suck at FPS games, and typically go 4 - 16 (this happened yesterday when I got smashed by shotgunners, trying to use a shotgun and failing miserably), but when I equip the AR suddenly a magical force bestows me with uber accuracy and extreme reflexes because suddenly I'm not dying and killing kittenloads of redberries!

My K/D is above 1 only because of the AR. If I had decided to stick to another weapon exclusively, I would have been in pain. This range decrease creates situations which ARE NOT OPTIMAL for the AR. Currently, there are almost no situations where this is the case.

Range boosting modules will probably arrive on the scene in a few years. Wait til them.

So sorry your toy got taken away.

Huh?

15% = 0.15

30 something effective range for ARs, and 80 is the farthest it'll go.. I think. That's 34.5ish and 92 "M" respectively.

The gallente rifle should've always been close range, high DPS tbh. That's their racial style.

According to the stream today the Minmatar rifle will be the closest match to the AR we know today, focused on balance and versatility. Which is how it should be.

Exactly, he gallente AR fires bolts of plasma, which dissipate after a short range.

everybody should probably postpone their celebration/mourning.

the op says from the ROOF of C, to the CRU. that's a fairly tall roof, thus increasing the total distance beyond what the top down map shows, by a fairly large amount. because, you know... angles.

Dude, are you shitting me? It's got the highest DPS in the game, second only to the HMG. No other weapon can dish out that kind of damage - I gave up trying to specialize in the CQC Scout and started using the Assault Rifle. I just hit Proficiency 1 and already I'm downing other players in as little as TEN ****ING BULLETS!

And don't even get me started on the poor Heavies who can't get out of the way of my wall of death.

Assault Rifle NEEDED this range reduction - it's not supposed to be a God Mode weapon and it sure as **** isn't meant to have 100+ meters of effective range with the kind of damage it puts out.

I changed over to the Assault Rifle and my KDR shot up DRAMATICALLY. I even went three matches in a row without dying. As a CQC Scout, that would never happen. As a Heavy, that would never happen. If anything, this just gives the players all the more reason to SPECIALIZE into a ROLE - not be a King of All Trades.

crazy how ARs had so much range now they cant shoot from C to the edge of the map and theyre crying? madness.

SS was too powerful. turned the Duvolle into a sniper.

First:
Crying about a nerf before it happens? This is truly the internets.

Second:
with the range you showed, that doesn't look like a nerf to me. I don't think the regular AR that I have can shoot that far right now,

I love how everyone is mad about the AR "losing" range, when it is all weapons that are going back to their original range. The only real change is those "pro" players that had an unfair range boost due to sharpshooter proficiency 5 are going to be in range of everyone they used to kill for the simple fact the other people couldn't hit them. So enjoy these last few weeks everyone that has your immortal range increase, because come May 6th you are brought into range of everyone, and the tears are going to be delicious.

Sharpshooter nerf, great nerf. Now time to get more damage nerfs by upping the stacking modifier on multiple damage mods. The removal of the weaponry damage boost is a good first step in that area.

No it wasn't. My alt is heavy only and it can't hit **** with an AR unless it is basically right in front of it. On that same map the AR with no sharpshooter increase will barely shoot from corner to corner under the platform in the center of the map. Learn to play scrubs, your range advantage is going by-by.

I don't understand the problem.

1 - The weapon is more balanced now.

2 - If you don't like it, May 6th will be here very soon so you can respec.

I'm happy with range nerf, if indeed sharpshooter was removed. Sorry but the skill made weapons range nonsense. ARs hitting me at my LR range. My LR hitting snipers across map. Shotguns...lol.

If indeed the AR is plasma based then why do you complain? Check eve online. Plasma weapons are blasters. Blasters have short range. Yes it's name is AR. But it doesn't shoot ballistic rounds. It's hybrid plasma rounds.

That and even with no sharpshooter it's range was way to far.

You want an AR with long range wait for mimnatar AR since that one will actually work like an AR in real life since its an actual ballistic weapon. I think that's another reason why so much complaining is going on. They are stating a weapon that doesn't exist should be exactly like a weapon that does exist just because it shares a name.

Will you have to get head shots with the scrambler rifle cause if not that's where I'm going.

In all honesty it doesn't matter as the scrambler rifle will just replace the AR, also I remember in one of the panels where they showed all the new weapons they described the gallante AR as a "Short to Medium Range". That struck me as they might b nerfing it. Looks like they have.

Whoa whoa whoa! You mean to tell me that other weapons will actually be viable? Laser Rifles will have a place in the new build?

Sign me up! I spec'd into ARs this last cap to give them a proper try. Good lord they're stupidly good. Specialist weapons might be a little better in their proper situations, but the AR is more than a competent match for every one of them, and they're so much more versatile. I'm sorry that they're making DUST into something more than a one weapon game.

Actually, no I'm not. Good on you, CCP.

Keep the tears coming.

Keep crying nerd.