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Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 77	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:02:00 - [1] - Quote I have been looking at the crystal ball, aka sisi, and I noticed a small change that I haven't seen anybody mention. Weaponry Skill Notably, the skill is now missing the 2% per level bonus to infantry weapons. Now the only thing I can think of is that this is a 10% across the board nerf to infantry damage potential unless the weapons damage has been adjusted upwards accordingly. If this has been talked about already, I'm sorry didn't notice it. But if not, what do people think about this?
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 117	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:03:00 - [2] - Quote A step in the right direction.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 192	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:04:00 - [3] - Quote finally ars get a little weaker. since they get the most out of the boost other than snipers. :D.
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 77	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:06:00 - [4] - Quote As a tanker, I approve of it myself. To me it means AV is a little weaker and a small buff to HAV's if infantry weapons haven't been adjusted accordingly.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 981	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:07:00 - [5] - Quote What the fudge man! So now all it does is unlock stuff?
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 192	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:08:00 - [6] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: What the fudge man! So now all it does is unlock stuff? yes if this is true. Awesome sauce.
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 77	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:09:00 - [7] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: What the fudge man! So now all it does is unlock stuff? That is what it would look like. I don't personally like skills that all they do is unlock new stuff, they should have an effect on some stuff, even if just reduced fitting costs of damage mods or infantry weapons. Something, but it is an interesting change none the less.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 981	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:14:00 - [8] - Quote Casius Hakoke wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: What the fudge man! So now all it does is unlock stuff? That is what it would look like. I don't personally like skills that all they do is unlock new stuff, they should have an effect on some stuff, even if just reduced fitting costs of damage mods or infantry weapons. Something, but it is an interesting change none the less. I'm fine with weapons doing less damage, but I personally hate skills that do nothing aside from unlock stuff, so I'm kind of split on this. Edit: Wait... so what unlocks damage modules now? Don't those fall under the weaponry skill?
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 77	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:18:00 - [9] - Quote It probably still unlocks damage mods, just can't tell from sisi.
BobThe843CakeMan Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 192	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:21:00 - [10] - Quote Casius Hakoke wrote: It probably still unlocks damage mods, just can't tell from sisi. no the specific weapon skills probably unlock tht weapon types damage mods like light weapon operation gets light weapon damage mods.

BASSMEANT ZionTCD 213	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:24:00 - [11] - Quote LOOOOOOOOOOOL all this because you guys got beat up by militia gear? how bad are you gonna whine when WE break out the protoad gear? oh wait. that's when you are gonna ask for the proto gear nerf. way ahead of ya!! Peace B
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 78	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:24:00 - [12] - Quote BobThe843CakeMan wrote: Casius Hakoke wrote: It probably still unlocks damage mods, just can't tell from sisi. no the specific weapon skills probably unlock tht weapon types damage mods like light weapon operation gets light weapon damage mods. Could be, I couldn't tell you one way or the other. But with the lack of other information the simplest explanation makes the most sense. Having said that, yours might be simpler than mine as it does make a lot of sense and would also further help force specialization.
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 78	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:25:00 - [13] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOL all this because you guys got beat up by militia gear? how bad are you gonna whine when WE break out the protoad gear? oh wait. that's when you are gonna ask for the proto gear nerf. way ahead of ya!! Peace B What are you talking about?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 981	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:29:00 - [14] - Quote Casius Hakoke wrote: BASSMEANT wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOL all this because you guys got beat up by militia gear? how bad are you gonna whine when WE break out the protoad gear? oh wait. that's when you are gonna ask for the proto gear nerf. way ahead of ya!! Peace B What are you talking about? He's saying Militia gear won't take out proto gear as easily now, which is true, but it's also true that proto gear will now take a little longer to take everything else out. I'd say it all evens out.
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 78	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:41:00 - [15] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Casius Hakoke wrote: BASSMEANT wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOL all this because you guys got beat up by militia gear? how bad are you gonna whine when WE break out the protoad gear? oh wait. that's when you are gonna ask for the proto gear nerf. way ahead of ya!! Peace B What are you talking about? He's saying Militia gear won't take out proto gear as easily now, which is true, but it's also true that proto gear will now take a little longer to take everything else out. I'd say it all evens out. Thanks for clarifying, I didn't understand at all what he was talking about. But sounds good, militia gear should have a very difficult time taking out proto gear unless the militia gear wearing person knows what he's doing and the proto one does not.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 119	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:44:00 - [16] - Quote Yeah, can't wait for the CoDex build to be done.
BASSMEANT ZionTCD 213	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:53:00 - [17] - Quote next up on the request list: Random Bullet Spread!!! Peace B
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 78	Posted - 2013.04.26 01:59:00 - [18] - Quote Edit: Deleted useless post.
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 114	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:13:00 - [19] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: next up on the request list: Random Bullet Spread!!! Peace B You wouldn't.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 158	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:20:00 - [20] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Casius Hakoke wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: What the fudge man! So now all it does is unlock stuff? That is what it would look like. I don't personally like skills that all they do is unlock new stuff, they should have an effect on some stuff, even if just reduced fitting costs of damage mods or infantry weapons. Something, but it is an interesting change none the less. I'm fine with weapons doing less damage, but I personally hate skills that do nothing aside from unlock stuff, so I'm kind of split on this. Edit: Wait... so what unlocks damage modules now? Don't those fall under the weaponry skill? If its a different skill its probably called something like "weapon upgrade handling" or something silly like that.

Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 158	Posted - 2013.04.26 02:21:00 - [21] - Quote Casius Hakoke wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Casius Hakoke wrote: BASSMEANT wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOL all this because you guys got beat up by militia gear? how bad are you gonna whine when WE break out the protoad gear? oh wait. that's when you are gonna ask for the proto gear nerf. way ahead of ya!! Peace B What are you talking about? He's saying Militia gear won't take out proto gear as easily now, which is true, but it's also true that proto gear will now take a little longer to take everything else out. I'd say it all evens out. Thanks for clarifying, I didn't understand at all what he was talking about. But sounds good, militia gear should have a very difficult time taking out proto gear unless the militia gear wearing person knows what he's doing and the proto one does not. militia suit with x1 flux nade = profit
Casius Hakoke Fenrir's Wolves 80	Posted - 2013.04.26 12:55:00 - [22] - Quote Just bumping to see if there are any different opinions from last night on now.
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2013.04.26 13:29:00 - [23] - Quote Logibros get a slight buff? Honestly I hate skill that do nothing but unlock, but at least this cuts the damage somewhat.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 984	Posted - 2013.04.26 18:11:00 - [24] - Quote I just noticed the "handheld weapon upgrades" skill in the keynotes video, I'm guessing that's where Damage mods and the passive bonus are going.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 608	Posted - 2013.04.26 19:13:00 - [25] - Quote It almost seems like they're trying to nerf passive, core skills in general. I'm not a fan, but I guess I can see the logic behind it. CCP probably doesn't want militia super-soldiers with maxed core skills running around pubstomping newberries. RIP BPO Bandit
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2013.04.26 19:15:00 - [26] - Quote Casius Hakoke wrote: I have been looking at the crystal ball, aka sisi, and I noticed a small change that I haven't seen anybody mention. Weaponry Skill Notably, the skill is now missing the 2% per level bonus to infantry weapons. Now the only thing I can think of is that this is a 10% across the board nerf to infantry damage potential unless the weapons damage has been adjusted upwards accordingly. If this has been talked about already, I'm sorry didn't notice it. But if not, what do people think about this? Wow, CCP really is listening to all the assault fanboys. Heavy weapons at level 5? Nobody is going to go for that. Well done, CCP. You listen, but to a select few.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2013.04.26 21:57:00 - [27] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOL all this because you guys got beat up by militia gear? how bad are you gonna whine when WE break out the protoad gear? oh wait. that's when you are gonna ask for the proto gear nerf. way ahead of ya!! Peace B At least militia ARs won't be able to solo me in a heavy suit.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2013.04.26 21:59:00 - [28] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: next up on the request list: Random Bullet Spread!!! Peace B Something that every person in every military around the world would laugh at? They'll probably do it.


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