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Sigberct Amni
Defensores Doctrina
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:24:00 -
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Let's reflect that in the after battle stats. Ideally, I'd like to see these stats highlighted above kills, deaths and the KDR.
1) Warpoints earned per death ratio
2) ISK/AUR destroyed per death ratio
3) ISK/AUR lost per death ratio
4) ISK/AUR destroyed/lost efficiency percent compared to rest of team
5) ISK/AUR destroyed/lost efficiency percent compared to everyone in the match
Basically, if Dust is about mercenaries, the only stats that matter are ISK/AUR related stats. Let WPD take the place of KDR to give a better (not perfect) measure of combat skill. Then, let the money talk and the bullshit walk.
Put KDR in small print somewhere off to the side of the stats screen to appease the CODdies, BF'ers and MAGbbys. |
slypie11
Planetary Response Organisation
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:25:00 -
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coming soon |
Sigberct Amni
Defensores Doctrina
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:30:00 -
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You forgot the Gäó |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:35:00 -
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First off, how dare you blaspheme by equating MAGgots with dumbass CoD and BF fanboys.
Secondly, didn't you know, we're not actually mercenaries, we're convicted criminals sentenced to warzone rehabilitation.
It's true, if you don't believe me, here's some proof:
We get paid after every battle based on the amount of murder and mayhem we can inflict on the other team of convicts. |
hooc roht
Black Soul Choir
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:40:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Let's reflect that in the after battle stats. Ideally, I'd like to see these stats highlighted above kills, deaths and the KDR.
1) Warpoints earned per death ratio
2) ISK/AUR destroyed per death ratio
3) ISK/AUR lost per death ratio
4) ISK/AUR destroyed/lost efficiency percent compared to rest of team
5) ISK/AUR destroyed/lost efficiency percent compared to everyone in the match
Basically, if Dust is about mercenaries, the only stats that matter are ISK/AUR related stats. Let WPD take the place of KDR to give a better (not perfect) measure of combat skill. Then, let the money talk and the bullshit walk.
Put KDR in small print somewhere off to the side of the stats screen to appease the CODdies, BF'ers and MAGbbys.
Awesome suggestions.
KDR is fun and all but it really has nothing to do with being a Dust merc. CCP wants us to roleplay an immortal mercenary clone ghost in their sandbox...how about giving us the right tools to do it properly then.
If i am selling my skills to EVE players i would assume i am getting payed to win and hold ground any which way i can....even if that means dying a lot. |
Sigberct Amni
Defensores Doctrina
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:41:00 -
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I only mentioned mag because there is a fairly large community of them here. Consider it a complement that they even get included. I mean how long did that game even last?
/derail
more isk/aur destroyed and lost stats, less 'elite fps' leader board poop.
hooc roht wrote:Awesome suggestions.
KDR is fun and all but it really has nothing to do with being a Dust merc. CCP wants us to roleplay an immortal mercenary clone ghost in their sandbox...how about giving us the right tools to do it properly then.
If i am selling my skills to EVE players i would assume i am getting payed to win and hold ground any which way i can....even if that means dying a lot.
Absolutely. Why do EVE players give a **** about how many blueberries I can spawn kill with a proto rail tank from the mountains? They need to know what happens with my money and my corps money.
Am I a liability? Are we worth it? |
Akira Regendorf
Conspiratus Immortalis
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:51:00 -
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Here is a pick of the after battle report from fanfest, much better than what we have now, but definitely want some isk destroyed and isk lost figures, don't know if this can be viewed for every player in the match or not |
Scramble Scrub
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:15:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Let's reflect that in the after battle stats. Ideally, I'd like to see these stats highlighted above kills, deaths and the KDR.
1) Warpoints earned per death ratio
2) ISK/AUR destroyed per death ratio
3) ISK/AUR lost per death ratio
4) ISK/AUR destroyed/lost efficiency percent compared to rest of team
5) ISK/AUR destroyed/lost efficiency percent compared to everyone in the match
Basically, if Dust is about mercenaries, the only stats that matter are ISK/AUR related stats. Let WPD take the place of KDR to give a better (not perfect) measure of combat skill. Then, let the money talk and the bullshit walk.
Put KDR in small print somewhere off to the side of the stats screen to appease the CODdies, BF'ers and MAGbbys.
Let me guess. You just don't want to look bad, right? |
Sergamon Draco
Darkstar Mercs
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Posted - 2013.04.26 03:25:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:First off, how dare you blaspheme by equating MAGgots with dumbass CoD and BF fanboys.
Secondly, didn't you know, we're not actually mercenaries, we're convicted criminals sentenced to warzone rehabilitation.
It's true, if you don't believe me, here's some proof:
We get paid after every battle based on the amount of murder and mayhem we can inflict on the other team of convicts.
You did forget to mention that we are condemnet to this little cell between the matches |
Sigberct Amni
Defensores Doctrina
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Posted - 2013.04.26 07:09:00 -
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Scramble Scrub wrote:Let me guess. You just don't want to look bad, right?
You do realize that if your ISK lost stat is higher than your ISK destroyed, it makes you look like a terrible player? So how am I dodging my 'bad' being displayed to the world if it exists?
If we switch to ISK/AUR numbers, then there's no more killing brand new player militia suits en masse with your proto gear only to die to one skillful grenade. But I guess you want to keep the game's 'skill' in crushing newbies. Keep on pubstompin~ |
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trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.26 08:37:00 -
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I'd add wp/hour, or isk destroyed/hour. Alternately clone efficiency per game: kills/deaths, with MCC counting as 150 kills split between team. I only want to know how much the mercs hurt per daily attack in PC. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.26 08:43:00 -
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I'll see about isk destroyed stats. |
Rigor Mordis
Imperial Populicide Legion
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Posted - 2013.04.26 10:57:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Let's reflect that in the after battle stats. Ideally, I'd like to see these stats highlighted above kills, deaths and the KDR.
1) Warpoints earned per death ratio
2) ISK/AUR destroyed per death ratio
3) ISK/AUR lost per death ratio
4) ISK/AUR destroyed/lost efficiency percent compared to rest of team
5) ISK/AUR destroyed/lost efficiency percent compared to everyone in the match
Basically, if Dust is about mercenaries, the only stats that matter are ISK/AUR related stats. Let WPD take the place of KDR to give a better (not perfect) measure of combat skill. Then, let the money talk and the bullshit walk.
Put KDR in small print somewhere off to the side of the stats screen to appease the CODdies, BF'ers and MAGbbys.
I like this idea. KDR, within the current build/system, is ridiculously disproportionate compared to what it would ACTUALLY look like in the big leagues.
I think that the only fans of CoD, BF, MAG, Halo, or any other proven game that would be concerned with their KDR in DUST, are here exploiting the weaknesses in it because they cant hang in the big leagues. 47-0 is meaningless when 75% of your kills are cheaply unearned by killing defenseless spawns and 'tank sniping'.
I think it would reflect performance better if the statistics separated Infantry kills from vehicles kills OR it would be cool if there were a destruction stat that reflected how many vehicles, installations, and structures were destroyed.
And then another support stat and/or an assist stat.
I guess my idea would just separate the WP into different categories. IDK, I think my battle stats would look like this:
K/D Destruction (BOOM) Support (AST) Hacking (HAK) Commissions (COM) WP
BOOM would be all WP from destroying vehicles, installations, and structures. AST tracks all WP from assists, respawns, resupplies, repairs, and whatever else in this category. HAK is pretty self explanatory. COM would note how many WP gained from Squad Leader commissions and Precision Strikes.
Hopefully something along these lines will display in everyone's profile.
It would also be interesting to see the +/- of winners payout vs. losers payout. At the end of every match.
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