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Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.25 21:52:00 -
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Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Zitro saw a tank die, so as far as he's concerned, the build is a complete failure. Nope look at the hp of the tank, the same for the most part depending on skills. Unless av damage has been lowered or resistance has been buffed tanks are toys. They could of even buff the reps for modules which I doubt they would do. I wish my toys enabled me to maintain a 25+ KDR We all have the same toys yet I was the only one to get that ratio with my tanks, it's my skill that make tanks look easy. Remember that noob Don't see many dedicated foot soliders with that high of a KDR. Your toy (skilled as you are) allows you to leverage over 25 clones to your one on average. Cry me a river.
How many other tankers have my ratios? Answer one and thats metro but i have more wins and kills. I am pointing out how the game mechanics haven't seem to change with the little gameplay we saw. Do try to pay attention and stop crying to me, I'm not your boyfriend |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2883
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Posted - 2013.04.25 21:56:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Zitro saw a tank die, so as far as he's concerned, the build is a complete failure. Nope look at the hp of the tank, the same for the most part depending on skills. Unless av damage has been lowered or resistance has been buffed tanks are toys. They could of even buff the reps for modules which I doubt they would do. I wish my toys enabled me to maintain a 25+ KDR We all have the same toys yet I was the only one to get that ratio with my tanks, it's my skill that make tanks look easy. Remember that noob
Also vanilla ambush helps |
Tidaen
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
51
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:02:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote: How many other tankers have my ratios? Answer one and thats metro but i have more wins and kills. I am pointing out how the game mechanics haven't seem to change with the little gameplay we saw. Do try to pay attention and stop crying to me, I'm not your boyfriend
Why start a forum thread if you didn't want a little conversation? What you pointed out was that tanks were little more than toys, implying them to be items of amusement or offering few advantages that couldn't be met with dropsuits alone. This is demonstrably false as the combat statistics of skilled tankers are on average higher than those who rely on dropsuits alone. I made no comments regarding stale gameplay or static mechanics, in this regard I actually agree with you. |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
52
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:40:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:All the building feel more alive now too. That is because you are a fanboy, from the gameplay it looks like the same. HMG didn't overheat, AR kicks like a baby in the womb, and vehicles look like toys
called passive skills, look it up, same goes for the AR's
with proffiecency, should never have to worry bout overheating/kick |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
52
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:40:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:All the building feel more alive now too. That is because you are a fanboy, from the gameplay it looks like the same. HMG didn't overheat, AR kicks like a baby in the womb, and vehicles look like toys Nope, definately looks better. But he does have to be a fanboy now, its in the contract.
LMAO |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
150
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Hmgs did overheat on my testing runs. At with sharpshooter 5 AR is amazing Tactical rifle acog scope is OMG. Brach ARs can kill again. And having a full charge on you forge gunner gives you away, its a very bright white ball. Fk yea my breach ar isnt useless anymore |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
115
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Posted - 2013.04.25 22:50:00 -
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Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Zitro saw a tank die, so as far as he's concerned, the build is a complete failure. Nope look at the hp of the tank, the same for the most part depending on skills. Unless av damage has been lowered or resistance has been buffed tanks are toys. They could of even buff the reps for modules which I doubt they would do. I wish my toys enabled me to maintain a 25+ KDR We all have the same toys yet I was the only one to get that ratio with my tanks, it's my skill that make tanks look easy. Remember that noob Don't see many dedicated foot soliders with that high of a KDR. Your toy (skilled as you are) allows you to leverage over 25 clones to your one on average. Cry me a river. If you are able to replicate that success with any other weapon, then I will admit my mistake and bow before your awesome skill.
At a much higher ISK cost, i really love how ppl forget that part when they try to throw back KDR as the be all end all stat to justify something being OP/UP |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1540
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:05:00 -
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HMG is not OP so be quiet |
Skittles McDuckett
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:11:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Zitro saw a tank die, so as far as he's concerned, the build is a complete failure. Nope look at the hp of the tank, the same for the most part depending on skills. Unless av damage has been lowered or resistance has been buffed tanks are toys. They could of even buff the reps for modules which I doubt they would do. I wish my toys enabled me to maintain a 25+ KDR We all have the same toys yet I was the only one to get that ratio with my tanks, it's my skill that make tanks look easy. Remember that noob
Ok, betting pool is over! Who bet on 20 posts before Zitro called someone a noob? I think it was Iron Wolf Sabre... Please see Kaine/kane Spero for your ISK. |
Skittles McDuckett
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:16:00 -
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I wish my toys enabled me to maintain a 25+ KDR[/quote] We all have the same toys yet I was the only one to get that ratio with my tanks, it's my skill that make tanks look easy. Remember that noob [/quote]
Don't see many dedicated foot soliders with that high of a KDR. Your toy (skilled as you are) allows you to leverage over 25 clones to your one on average. Cry me a river. If you are able to replicate that success with any other weapon, then I will admit my mistake and bow before your awesome skill.[/quote]
At a much higher ISK cost, i really love how ppl forget that part when they try to throw back KDR as the be all end all stat to justify something being OP/UP[/quote]
Even though I don't like Zitro... and I mean, I REALLY DON'T LIKE HIM.... I have to give him props... It doesn't matter if he is in a tank or running around with a laser rifle, he has no problem achieving an insane KDR. He can tank and he has gun game. I was in a match against him last night and he went 25-0 with a laser rifle if I remember correctly. |
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Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
476
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:17:00 -
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Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote: How many other tankers have my ratios? Answer one and thats metro but i have more wins and kills. I am pointing out how the game mechanics haven't seem to change with the little gameplay we saw. Do try to pay attention and stop crying to me, I'm not your boyfriend
Why start a forum thread if you didn't want a little conversation? What you pointed out was that tanks were little more than toys, implying them to be items of amusement or offering few advantages that couldn't be met with dropsuits alone. This is demonstrably false as the combat statistics of skilled tankers are on average higher than those who rely on dropsuits alone. I made no comments regarding stale gameplay or static mechanics, in this regard I actually agree with you.
Here is a quick question, have you played a tank as your primary role? If not please do not pretend you know tanks than. I have and know what they are capable of. Just because you get smashed by tanks so easily doesn't make tanking easy. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
115
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:18:00 -
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Skittles McDuckett wrote:Quote:I wish my toys enabled me to maintain a 25+ KDR Quote:We all have the same toys yet I was the only one to get that ratio with my tanks, it's my skill that make tanks look easy. Remember that noob Quote:Don't see many dedicated foot soliders with that high of a KDR. Your toy (skilled as you are) allows you to leverage over 25 clones to your one on average. Cry me a river. If you are able to replicate that success with any other weapon, then I will admit my mistake and bow before your awesome skill. Quote:At a much higher ISK cost, i really love how ppl forget that part when they try to throw back KDR as the be all end all stat to justify something being OP/UP Even though I don't like Zitro... and I mean, I REALLY DON'T LIKE HIM.... I have to give him props... It doesn't matter if he is in a tank or running around with a laser rifle, he has no problem achieving an insane KDR. He can tank and he has gun game. I was in a match against him last night and he went 25-0 with a laser rifle if I remember correctly.
Nah he's just a tryhard who uses easy iwin button stuff, next you'll see him in a shotty. |
Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:19:00 -
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Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Parson Atreides wrote:Zitro saw a tank die, so as far as he's concerned, the build is a complete failure. Nope look at the hp of the tank, the same for the most part depending on skills. Unless av damage has been lowered or resistance has been buffed tanks are toys. They could of even buff the reps for modules which I doubt they would do. I wish my toys enabled me to maintain a 25+ KDR We all have the same toys yet I was the only one to get that ratio with my tanks, it's my skill that make tanks look easy. Remember that noob Don't see many dedicated foot soliders with that high of a KDR. Your toy (skilled as you are) allows you to leverage over 25 clones to your one on average. Cry me a river. If you are able to replicate that success with any other weapon, then I will admit my mistake and bow before your awesome skill.
Bow Down *Beyonce voice* |
Skihids
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
1214
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:20:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: And having a full charge on you forge gunner gives you away, its a very bright white ball.
Can you see it from a dropship? |
ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
173
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:21:00 -
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I was also not very impressed, and I was there.
However, I need to play it and it test before I can confirm more. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1540
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Posted - 2013.04.25 23:23:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Tidaen wrote:Mr Zitro wrote: How many other tankers have my ratios? Answer one and thats metro but i have more wins and kills. I am pointing out how the game mechanics haven't seem to change with the little gameplay we saw. Do try to pay attention and stop crying to me, I'm not your boyfriend
Why start a forum thread if you didn't want a little conversation? What you pointed out was that tanks were little more than toys, implying them to be items of amusement or offering few advantages that couldn't be met with dropsuits alone. This is demonstrably false as the combat statistics of skilled tankers are on average higher than those who rely on dropsuits alone. I made no comments regarding stale gameplay or static mechanics, in this regard I actually agree with you. Here is a quick question, have you played a tank as your primary role? If not please do not pretend you know tanks than. I have and know what they are capable of. Just because you get smashed by tanks so easily doesn't make tanking easy.
I have no idea how to use a tank |
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort
The Lions Guard
53
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Posted - 2013.04.26 00:23:00 -
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i use the militia ones and watch them get smashed all the time
but muraders? i need to be on a squad of FG using heavies to have a hope in hell of poping them |
Tidaen
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
52
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Posted - 2013.04.26 02:17:00 -
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Ok, how about this. In the hopes of trying to salvage something useful from this thread. Explain to me why tanks are ineffective, or at least not as effective as they should be. I fully acknowledge that Zitro's skill is largely the reason for his impressive stats, but I don't understand how his weapon of choice could be considered underpowered - while you are pretty much living proof that in the right hands it is very effective. Educate me. |
Mr Zitro
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
478
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Posted - 2013.04.26 15:22:00 -
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Tidaen wrote:Ok, how about this. In the hopes of trying to salvage something useful from this thread. Explain to me why tanks are ineffective, or at least not as effective as they should be. I fully acknowledge that Zitro's skill is largely the reason for his impressive stats, but I don't understand how his weapon of choice could be considered underpowered - while you are pretty much living proof that in the right hands it is very effective. Educate me. You must be new here, there is this nice little search button that allows you to look up the many threads by good tankers as why tanks are underpowered. Now to do some homework and stop asking dumb questions. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
511
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:13:00 -
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Mr Zitro wrote:Tidaen wrote:Ok, how about this. In the hopes of trying to salvage something useful from this thread. Explain to me why tanks are ineffective, or at least not as effective as they should be. I fully acknowledge that Zitro's skill is largely the reason for his impressive stats, but I don't understand how his weapon of choice could be considered underpowered - while you are pretty much living proof that in the right hands it is very effective. Educate me. You must be new here, there is this nice little search button that allows you to look up the many threads by good tankers as why tanks are underpowered. Now to do some homework and stop asking dumb questions.
Ignore Zitro, he's been crying for tanks buffs since he started the game. We all know tanks are a dominant force and need a much deserved nerf. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3713
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:15:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: And having a full charge on you forge gunner gives you away, its a very bright white ball.
Can you see it from a dropship?
I did but the guy on the roof. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3714
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:20:00 -
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Zitro was from an era where tanks could could eat nearly the combined firepower of an entire team, turn around and murder the entire team. And orbital strikes did not scratched them at all. This was the era when CCP believed table did not need support of the team. |
Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1254
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Posted - 2013.04.27 15:26:00 -
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The only major problem with tanks right now is that they're weak, but do some serious damage. The whole role itself is catered to a glass cannon role. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1555
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:45:00 -
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IRuby Heart wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Tidaen wrote:Ok, how about this. In the hopes of trying to salvage something useful from this thread. Explain to me why tanks are ineffective, or at least not as effective as they should be. I fully acknowledge that Zitro's skill is largely the reason for his impressive stats, but I don't understand how his weapon of choice could be considered underpowered - while you are pretty much living proof that in the right hands it is very effective. Educate me. You must be new here, there is this nice little search button that allows you to look up the many threads by good tankers as why tanks are underpowered. Now to do some homework and stop asking dumb questions. Ignore Zitro, he's been crying for tanks buffs since he started the game. We all know tanks are a dominant force and need a much deserved nerf.
Use AV |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
314
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:21:00 -
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Zitro running lasers now...... what has new eden come to...... I feel as though the universe is a bit darker.... seeing zitro's name float above a suite and not an armored fart coffin is something I have been waiting for.... props z for stepping out of the tank and takingto the dirt with the us "noobs". Now just drop the viz and pick up an AR..... |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1556
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:25:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:Zitro running lasers now...... what has new eden come to...... I feel as though the universe is a bit darker.... seeing zitro's name float above a suite and not an armored fart coffin is something I have been waiting for.... props z for stepping out of the tank and takingto the dirt with the us "noobs". Now just drop the viz and pick up an AR.....
I thought you were going to use a LR on me |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
100
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:27:00 -
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Skittles McDuckett wrote:Mr Zitro wrote:Nice to know you guys can finger paint and all but what does that have to do with making the game mechanics better? This is me being nice Awww... you deserve a hug for being nice. Oh, and just to beat you to it, yes, I am nothing but a dirty scrub, newb, trash, yadda yadda, etc. A noob that talks it self down? They are evolving! |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
314
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:30:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Zitro running lasers now...... what has new eden come to...... I feel as though the universe is a bit darker.... seeing zitro's name float above a suite and not an armored fart coffin is something I have been waiting for.... props z for stepping out of the tank and takingto the dirt with the us "noobs". Now just drop the viz and pick up an AR..... I thought you were going to use a LR on me
Kinda done with with it... to easy prefer AR or scrambler pistols. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1556
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:31:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Zitro running lasers now...... what has new eden come to...... I feel as though the universe is a bit darker.... seeing zitro's name float above a suite and not an armored fart coffin is something I have been waiting for.... props z for stepping out of the tank and takingto the dirt with the us "noobs". Now just drop the viz and pick up an AR..... I thought you were going to use a LR on me Kinda done with with it... to easy prefer AR or scrambler pistols.
sweet |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
481
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:32:00 -
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This is all pointless.
The important question is: Did they fix the core shooter mechanics? If they didn't then the game is still mickey mouse and a crappy new player experience, regardless of noob-farming with tanks.
I'm betting they did fix the core mechanics. |
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