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Posted - 2013.04.24 09:49:00 -
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Because of the charge shot, you walk around holding it, as soon as you see an enemy you release and I expect 200-300 damage from that, then you just tap it up for the rest of the damage, no-one will be able to outgun this. |
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:03:00 -
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2 words: Heat Buildup... |
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:04:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:2 words: Heat Buildup...
doesn't matter CCP never adds new weapons without them being OP. closed beta vet yo I've learned their tactics. |
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:07:00 -
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Never been killed by it, never used it, never even tested it.
Why dont I complain about those jetpack's Boeing is coming out with in 2050? its about as constructive.
Man that Cyborg president of 2039 really messed up the economy eh? |
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:08:00 -
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Everything in this game is OP to someone, especially AR elitists. It's called balance. When a rock gets introduced to counter your scissors, you have to adapt or get left behind. |
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:2 words: Heat Buildup... doesn't matter CCP never adds new weapons without them being OP. closed beta vet yo I've learned their tactics.
the nova knife would like a word with you. |
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Never been killed by it, never used it, never even tested it.
Why dont I complain about those jetpack's Boeing is coming out with in 2050? its about as constructive.
Man that Cyborg president of 2039 really messed up the economy eh?
5*x=10 what do you think 6*x is gonna be? CCP has a pattern yo <3 |
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:2 words: Heat Buildup... doesn't matter CCP never adds new weapons without them being OP. closed beta vet yo I've learned their tactics. the nova knife would like a word with you.
Nova knife used to be equiped to everyone character, it was never added, only nerfed. GOML scrub |
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:2 words: Heat Buildup... doesn't matter CCP never adds new weapons without them being OP. closed beta vet yo I've learned their tactics. the nova knife would like a word with you. Nova knife used to be equiped to everyone character, it was never added, only nerfed. GOML scrub
Wrong. Equipped would indicate that it took a weapon slot and had a its own dmg. There used to be a knife animation but it was never present other then the animation. Also it never had its own dmg so it was never a equipped weapon as all dmg came from the DS dmg table specific to each dropsuit.
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:16:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:2 words: Heat Buildup... doesn't matter CCP never adds new weapons without them being OP. closed beta vet yo I've learned their tactics. the nova knife would like a word with you. Nova knife used to be equiped to everyone character, it was never added, only nerfed. GOML scrub Wrong. Equipped would indicate that it took a weapon slot and had a its own dmg. There used to be a knife animation but it was never present other then the animation. Also it never had its own dmg so it was never a equipped weapon as all dmg came from the DS dmg table specific to each dropsuit. 2 ton knows his knives ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) |
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:20:00 -
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Can we get the nova knife buffed up to the point that it has to be nerfed so that it can be balanced? |
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:2 words: Heat Buildup... doesn't matter CCP never adds new weapons without them being OP. closed beta vet yo I've learned their tactics. the nova knife would like a word with you. Nova knife used to be equiped to everyone character, it was never added, only nerfed. GOML scrub Wrong. Equipped would indicate that it took a weapon slot and had a its own dmg. There used to be a knife animation but it was never present other then the animation. Also it never had its own dmg so it was never a equipped weapon as all dmg came from the DS dmg table specific to each dropsuit.
CCP stated it was a Nova Knife, you're wrong son.
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:25:00 -
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only OP if majority of your hitpoints are based in shields oh wait |
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Coleman Gray wrote:only OP if majority of your hitpoints are based in shields oh wait
*realization that 95% of the game is shields* |
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Coleman Gray wrote:only OP if majority of your hitpoints are based in shields oh wait And thus scissors meets rock. Better equip some paper (armor) so you don't get crushed. |
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Cosgar wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:only OP if majority of your hitpoints are based in shields oh wait And thus scissors meets rock. Better equip some paper (armor) so you don't get crushed.
it's impossible to run armor as a scout/assault... logi kinda has the option of either because logi is lolOP |
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:
the nova knife would like a word with you.
Nova knife used to be equiped to everyone character, it was never added, only nerfed. GOML scrub Wrong. Equipped would indicate that it took a weapon slot and had a its own dmg. There used to be a knife animation but it was never present other then the animation. Also it never had its own dmg so it was never a equipped weapon as all dmg came from the DS dmg table specific to each dropsuit. CCP stated it was a Nova Knife, you're wrong son.
Its was not a weapon with its own stats or a item you would lose on the battlefield thus it was not a item. It never had its own dmg table. It was just a animation used for the melee attack. Nothing was lost when they changed the animation it a physical weapon melee.
The Nova knife was added as its own weapon in chromozone.
Your still wrong. |
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:34:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:only OP if majority of your hitpoints are based in shields oh wait And thus scissors meets rock. Better equip some paper (armor) so you don't get crushed. it's impossible to run armor as a scout/assault... logi kinda has the option of either because logi is lolOP
its not impossible, you just have no reason to do it. Now you do ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:
the nova knife would like a word with you.
Nova knife used to be equiped to everyone character, it was never added, only nerfed. GOML scrub Wrong. Equipped would indicate that it took a weapon slot and had a its own dmg. There used to be a knife animation but it was never present other then the animation. Also it never had its own dmg so it was never a equipped weapon as all dmg came from the DS dmg table specific to each dropsuit. CCP stated it was a Nova Knife, you're wrong son. Its was not a weapon with its own stats or a item you would lose on the battlefield thus it was not a item. It never had its own dmg table. It was just a animation used for the melee attack. Nothing was lost when they changed the animation it a physical weapon melee. The Nova knife was added as its own weapon in chromozone. Your still wrong. You're*
it did have it's own damage output and skills for it! however it came pre-bought with the suit, you're still wrong.
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:38:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:only OP if majority of your hitpoints are based in shields oh wait And thus scissors meets rock. Better equip some paper (armor) so you don't get crushed. it's impossible to run armor as a scout/assault... Armor is getting rebalanced in the next build and different racial suits mean that you don't have to be limited to just shields.
ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:logi kinda has the option of either because logi is lolOP If you care about credibility, I wouldn't repeat that outside this thread lol. |
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Cosgar wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:only OP if majority of your hitpoints are based in shields oh wait And thus scissors meets rock. Better equip some paper (armor) so you don't get crushed. it's impossible to run armor as a scout/assault... Armor is getting rebalanced in the next build and different racial suits mean that you don't have to be limited to just shields. ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:logi kinda has the option of either because logi is lolOP If you care about credibility, I wouldn't repeat that outside this thread lol.
Logi is the ultimate slayer, more PG/CPU because they assume you're going to run equipment, but if you don't you have a **** load of extra PG/CPU to put on complex mods and weapons cross the board, just make sure to invest in some rapid reload. |
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Because of the charge shot, you walk around holding it, as soon as you see an enemy you release and I expect 200-300 damage from that, then you just tap it up for the rest of the damage, no-one will be able to outgun this. Yea man, you will probably be my first target. Oh and aint you guys running Caldari proto suits... More shield variants... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote: You're*
it did have it's own damage output and skills for it! however it came pre-bought with the suit, you're still wrong.
So, correcting me on grammar this late in the game? you posts would like a word with your spelling skills fool.
There was a hand to hand damage skill but the nova knife animation did not have its own dmg output chief, it was the dropsuit melee dmg base that was used not the weapons, stop smoking rocks.
Its like right now all melee animations use the weapons in hand but the weapons in your hand dont modify the damage amount, only the suit equipped does.
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Cosgar wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Cosgar wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:only OP if majority of your hitpoints are based in shields oh wait And thus scissors meets rock. Better equip some paper (armor) so you don't get crushed. it's impossible to run armor as a scout/assault... Armor is getting rebalanced in the next build and different racial suits mean that you don't have to be limited to just shields. ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:logi kinda has the option of either because logi is lolOP If you care about credibility, I wouldn't repeat that outside this thread lol.
While I dont agree with OP, i have to correct you. Armor isnt really getting rebalanced. Reppers are just getting buffed. Im pretty sure plates will be unchanged, and armor resistances will be unchanged. |
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Posted - 2013.04.24 11:09:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:
While I dont agree with OP, i have to correct you. Armor isnt really getting rebalanced. Reppers are just getting buffed. Im pretty sure plates will be unchanged, and armor resistances will be unchanged.
The twitch dev yesterday said armor is getting changes and so are shield mods. supposed to be 2 tiers of each from what i understood from the dev interview for uprising anyway.
1 tier gives more with penalties.
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Because of the charge shot, you walk around holding it, as soon as you see an enemy you release and I expect 200-300 damage from that, then you just tap it up for the rest of the damage, no-one will be able to outgun this.
just a hunch but I think your confusing the scrambler rifle with the plasma cannon. If I remember correctly, the "charge up" your talking about was in the tank scene, so let me ask you...... why would you shoot an anti-infantry weapon at a tank?? unless it actually wasn't an anti-infantry weapon..... Then the next scene where we know for sure its a scrambler rifle, hes just fireing it like crazy and heat builds up even with that mode. So unless theres a description of the scrambler rifle that says otherwise im not sure if i'll believe its "op" and even if there is a charge mode with it, it'll just be like the LR. One "charge shot" will bring it near to overheating. If it does 200-300 damage he better make sure he lands his last one or two shots as I know my proto at a minimum is going to have 400 EHP so yeah..... If he misses hes screwed, if he hits he might have a chance, doesn't sound very OP to me really..... similar mechanic to the forge gun just less lethal. |
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Scrambler Rifle is supposed to be supper efficient vs. shields but almost worthless vs armor according to that livestream yesterday, so if you plan to run shield suits... then yeah, OP as hell. But you have no one to blame but yourself for that if you decide to ignore your armor. Armor is making a comeback in a big way, and the Scrambler Rifle is clearing the path for it >=D |
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Marston VC wrote:ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:Because of the charge shot, you walk around holding it, as soon as you see an enemy you release and I expect 200-300 damage from that, then you just tap it up for the rest of the damage, no-one will be able to outgun this. just a hunch but I think your confusing the scrambler rifle with the plasma cannon. If I remember correctly, the "charge up" your talking about was in the tank scene, so let me ask you...... why would you shoot an anti-infantry weapon at a tank?? unless it actually wasn't an anti-infantry weapon..... Then the next scene where we know for sure its a scrambler rifle, hes just fireing it like crazy and heat builds up even with that mode. So unless theres a description of the scrambler rifle that says otherwise im not sure if i'll believe its "op" and even if there is a charge mode with it, it'll just be like the LR. One "charge shot" will bring it near to overheating. If it does 200-300 damage he better make sure he lands his last one or two shots as I know my proto at a minimum is going to have 400 EHP so yeah..... If he misses hes screwed, if he hits he might have a chance, doesn't sound very OP to me really..... similar mechanic to the forge gun just less lethal. No, there is apparently going to be two variants of the scrambler rifle. One with a large mag/cell that is full auto, and a second that will have a small mag/cell that is semi auto fire. The semi auto will have a secondary fire that is the charged shot. And if I can find the Sisi description I'll post it, but the charged shot will only be able to be held for a short while before it backfires at the user. |
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As long as they don't fix the hit detection on scout suits, I'll be fine. speed tank ftw!
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