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General Hornet
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:01:00 -
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Is it pretty much the normal standard on eve as much as it is on dust? I understand there is Meta gaming and strategical reasons for it to be done on eve at times, but how does it fit in the dust community? Also how do you feel about corp hoppers do they get less respect in your book? |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:07:00 -
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Dust imo is a much more relaxed group of people because the game itself isn't dependant on the metagame... EVE is all about metagame |
AFK Godfather
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:08:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:Dust imo is a much more relaxed group of people because the game itself isn't dependant on the metagame... EVE is all about metagame
wow...
I'm so shocked by this I have no idea how to reply... are you serious? |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
343
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:09:00 -
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Most corps are against it. Why should they put the time, effort, and trust into you if you are going to leave anyday? |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:10:00 -
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AFK Godfather wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4q wrote:Dust imo is a much more relaxed group of people because the game itself isn't dependant on the metagame... EVE is all about metagame wow... I'm so shocked by this I have no idea how to reply... are you serious? Look at my name and tell me how serious do you think I take myself |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:11:00 -
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nah since i was a corp hopper back in resistance fall of man, but clan hopped because they were not very good clans, so i did not cared if i hopped into another one, until i got involved with sce and ono, that's when i started to take it more seriously. I would only disrespect a corp member in dust if they t bagged me and then left the corp to join another one. Also one consequence is that if you keep corp hopping no one will trust you. |
General Hornet
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:15:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Most corps are against it. Why should they put the time, effort, and trust into you if you are going to leave anyday? lately from what I been seeing it seems like corps are starting to care less and less about the unwritten rule and will accept anyone who they think is talented enough to hold there own and just end up hoping they will stay and go against us there track record of hopping. For this build to be still remotely new its ridiculous to see how much corp hopping has been going on. Some people aren't even giving it time to see if they would work out with a corp or not.
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:23:00 -
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whats the point of playing if your stuck in a corp you dont like?
that question is the reason for corp hopping.
It takes time to find people you enjoy playing with and being around for everything. it may take you 10 corps before you find one you truly like. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
343
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:25:00 -
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General Hornet wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Most corps are against it. Why should they put the time, effort, and trust into you if you are going to leave anyday? lately from what I been seeing it seems like corps are starting to care less and less about the unwritten rule and will accept anyone who they think is talented enough to hold there own and just end up hoping they will stay and go against us there track record of hopping. For this build to be still remotely new its ridiculous to see how much corp hopping has been going on. Some people aren't even giving it time to see if they would work out with a corp or not.
Most people want to be in the cool kids club but dont want to put in the effort to actually make the kids club cool.
For others things simply changed and it was time to move on.
Some corps are just desperate and will take anyone. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:32:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:General Hornet wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Most corps are against it. Why should they put the time, effort, and trust into you if you are going to leave anyday? lately from what I been seeing it seems like corps are starting to care less and less about the unwritten rule and will accept anyone who they think is talented enough to hold there own and just end up hoping they will stay and go against us there track record of hopping. For this build to be still remotely new its ridiculous to see how much corp hopping has been going on. Some people aren't even giving it time to see if they would work out with a corp or not. Most people want to be in the cool kids club but dont want to put in the effort to actually make the kids club cool. For others things simply changed and it was time to move on. Some corps are just desperate and will take anyone.
THIS.
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General Hornet
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:35:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:General Hornet wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Most corps are against it. Why should they put the time, effort, and trust into you if you are going to leave anyday? lately from what I been seeing it seems like corps are starting to care less and less about the unwritten rule and will accept anyone who they think is talented enough to hold there own and just end up hoping they will stay and go against us there track record of hopping. For this build to be still remotely new its ridiculous to see how much corp hopping has been going on. Some people aren't even giving it time to see if they would work out with a corp or not. Most people want to be in the cool kids club but dont want to put in the effort to actually make the kids club cool. For others things simply changed and it was time to move on. Some corps are just desperate and will take anyone. Right on with this one, I understand corp rosters will change over time but some of the respected corps foundations will remain the same. Hope everyone finds the home they are looking for. |
Don Von Hulio
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.04.22 04:30:00 -
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Only benefit in being in a corp is making sure you are squad'ed 24/7 and always on the side thats stacked.... and that about it where DUST is concerned.
Im sure if there was more stuff at stake or as much to gain like there is in EvE, less people would leave corps that are heading in the right direction. But in DUST, all it really takes to make someone decide to leave is there feelings getting hurt over com chat.
I can tell by looking at my Corp tag under my name Ureal is either no more or ive been kicked from inactivity... it doesnt matter either way. I lost nothing, and i didnt depend on that corp for anything. I did no mining ops, i dont owe anyone mats or ISK, no one is borrowing any of my items, i didnt invest my life savings into it.
What im saying is, there is no negative to leaving several corps and moving on to others at this stage in the game when everything is pretty much still just a pub match. If you are good at the game, you are just good at the game and you shouldnt need a well known tag to tell you this.
(Unless some things have changed in my absence, everything i said should be correct lol)
Im still waiting on next build... |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.04.22 04:54:00 -
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I almost wish I could have different corps for different times of day. If I get in at one time I'm surrounded by blowhard kids and apparent first timers. 4-6 hours later I get some legit gunmen. Another 6 hours later, we don't speak the same language.
But, I keep the Shotties ringing for all of 'em. |
General Hornet
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Posted - 2013.04.22 05:06:00 -
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I dunno every game I played competively I am use to finding a home and staying put for as long as it last. It makes the corp even stronger overtime talent wise when you build chemistry and start to learn how everyone plays not just your 3 other buddies but the alliance as a whole. You also build trust and good friendship's along the way. Gypsies make it a long way on some games though because if they are skilled enough they should never have a problem finding a home they just will usually find a way or reason to leave just as easy as they found shelter though. Kinda sucks what happened to Unreal because they had allot of talent over there and it appeared as if they was gaining allot of momentum and getting better over time and then just like that its over. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.04.22 05:17:00 -
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General Hornet wrote:I dunno every game I played competively I am use to finding a home and staying put for as long as it last. It makes the corp even stronger overtime talent wise when you build chemistry and start to learn how everyone plays not just your 3 other buddies but the alliance as a whole. You also build trust and good friendship's along the way. Gypsies make it a long way on some games though because if they are skilled enough they should never have a problem finding a home they just will usually find a way or reason to leave just as easy as they found shelter though. Kinda sucks what happened to Unreal because they had allot of talent over there and it appeared as if they was gaining allot of momentum and getting better over time and then just like that its over.
Some people don't know how to lose and when you pump yourselves up too much the sudden release of air can sometimes cause an explosion. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.04.22 05:28:00 -
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General Hornet wrote:I dunno every game I played competively I am use to finding a home and staying put for as long as it last. It makes the corp even stronger overtime talent wise when you build chemistry and start to learn how everyone plays not just your 3 other buddies but the alliance as a whole. You also build trust and good friendship's along the way. Gypsies make it a long way on some games though because if they are skilled enough they should never have a problem finding a home they just will usually find a way or reason to leave just as easy as they found shelter though. Kinda sucks what happened to Unreal because they had allot of talent over there and it appeared as if they was gaining allot of momentum and getting better over time and then just like that its over.
I never apply to corps. I just jump on with the first to ask and let gameplay move me into better fits. I feel like a kissass fanboy if I "like" one particular corp and want to apply. Quitting a corp is like quitting a job; you miss the people, but driving past the building feels taboo. |
General Hornet
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Posted - 2013.04.22 05:33:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:General Hornet wrote:I dunno every game I played competively I am use to finding a home and staying put for as long as it last. It makes the corp even stronger overtime talent wise when you build chemistry and start to learn how everyone plays not just your 3 other buddies but the alliance as a whole. You also build trust and good friendship's along the way. Gypsies make it a long way on some games though because if they are skilled enough they should never have a problem finding a home they just will usually find a way or reason to leave just as easy as they found shelter though. Kinda sucks what happened to Unreal because they had allot of talent over there and it appeared as if they was gaining allot of momentum and getting better over time and then just like that its over. I never apply to corps. I just jump on with the first to ask and let gameplay move me into better fits. I feel like a kissass fanboy if I "like" one particular corp and want to apply. Quitting a corp is like quitting a job; you miss the people, but driving past the building feels taboo. so I'm guessing pro didn't get to you first! Lol. Joe you slacking brah you could have had this guy. |
Mark0h
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.04.22 06:19:00 -
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Maybe they are just trying to find a place to fit in. Different corps have different attitudes. Don't know for sure, Tbh Id like to get a good hold on my teammates play styles, cant do that if you are hoping corps a lot.
/shrug Corp loyalty is a lost thing maybe |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
961
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:16:00 -
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If I don't like the corp, then I'll just leave. I don't see why I owe strangers my loyalty. I'm pretty happy where I'm at right now though, so I think I'l be staying in RG for a while. |
Yay Adski
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
190
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:43:00 -
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All depends. Some people leave corps because it's gone in a different direction, others leave because they didn't take time to get to know the corp before joining. Less and less people actually take time to get to know the corp and it's values before joining them. I'd say partially because they just want to be in a corp and also because it's a good chance if they leave it too long, that corp might stop playing with them. I think if you take the time to get to know the players/corp, play with them for a while and then decide you're much better off. A corp where it's leaders actually encourage you to take the time to get the know what they're about is definitely one that's worth looking at. |
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XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
161
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:47:00 -
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I have liked the corp I am apart of since I ran into a fraction of them in MAG. They are like a online family. I will be here till it disbands of inactivity and I really don't see that. I am lucky enough to have found a great corp and I didn't need to jump around 20 times. The way I choose where I go is by them gaining my respect. I remember good players so when going against other good players I remember them.
Like I said though this corp isn't going anywhere all people who have been playing with each other for quite sometime. Happy to be apart of PFBHz wouldn't wanna be nowhere else! |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2013.04.22 07:55:00 -
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Its pretty normal for people to corp hop until they find a group they like, unlike a RL sporting team its not like you have to drive across town or out of town if you don't like the beer swilling pigs you've been saddled with.
One thing I've noticed with the FPS crowd though they seem to take it personal and see you as a betrayer if you leave their corp, not something I really encountered in eve, moving to another corp was just like changing jobs most people wish you the best and you stay in touch through public channels. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
961
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:01:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Its pretty normal for people to corp hop until they find a group they like, unlike a RL sporting team its not like you have to drive across town or out of town if you don't like the beer swilling pigs you've been saddled with.
One thing I've noticed with the FPS crowd though they seem to take it personal and see you as a betrayer if you leave their corp, not something I really encountered in eve, moving to another corp was just like changing jobs most people wish you the best and you stay in touch through public channels. Well, I guess most FPSers are just treating them as clans and not "corps" then. |
Rusticuls
ATHEIST's For XENU
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Posted - 2013.04.22 08:52:00 -
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Sometimes you have to leave your Corp because your CEO goes nutso in the forums. Then you start a cult of your own and no one knows what your talking about half the time. The people that do know what you are talking about are also too afraid of this other cult coming after them, it's a viscous cycle man. I get it. Do you? |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.04.22 18:18:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:I remember good players so when going against other good players I remember them.
We've faced off a few times. I look forward to Round 2 - after respec, of course. (I think I comprehend the meta game enough now to make you remember me.) |
Kitten Commander
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
188
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Posted - 2013.04.22 18:38:00 -
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I think it all depends on the situation. New Guys To FPS/DUST GÇô They usually have no clue about the relationships to Corps and Clans. They will more than likely climb up the Corp tree until they find their happy medium as far as skills go. Long haul peeps will more than likely end up with one of the established FPS clans out there.
Established Clanners GÇô These guys typically stay with the group that they have been a part of. The only reasons that they typically leave are due to a rift that forms within their clan. With this, they will either branch off to form their own clan or do the bounce-around again until they find a new GÇÿhomeGÇÖ.
Flavor of The Month GÇô I put some of the very good skill guys in this category. They are good and they know they are good. However, they sometimes have the ego to go along with it and like being wooGÇÖd by other top Corps/Clans. Sometimes they band together to form a superior clan but rifts are much more likely to develop with all of the Type A personalities. Sometimes something special develops, sometimes you have a tabloid worthy meltdown.
Burn All The Bridges! GÇô Some peeps just cant get along with anyone. They bounce around with matches and burn every bridge they come across. Then you have epic forum meltdowns like we saw a month or so ago when it all comes out into the open that they donGÇÖt have any options left.
As far as what that plays into right now. I donGÇÖt think you should hold anything against people corp hopping until PC is well underway. Right now, people are coming to the realization that size does matter and that its not just about pew pewGÇÖing with friends in DUST. Corps will rise and fall in the next couple weeks and people will shuffle around. ThatGÇÖs when the META truly starts.
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