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N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.21 20:13:00 -
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Why no points for this? it takes super long to counter hack and we don't get any War Points.
50 war points for it would be fine. 75 would be perfect. Most people just wait until the hack is finished then they hack it. This is stupid because you got a teammate waiting 15-30 seconds so he can hack it right back. |
Jedah McClintock
McClintock's Mercs
13
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Posted - 2013.04.21 20:16:00 -
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Heck, I'd even take 25 points for putting myself at risk to keep the objective in my team's hands. The lack of reward for counterhacking does need to be tweaked. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
251
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Posted - 2013.04.21 20:17:00 -
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Jedah McClintock wrote:Heck, I'd even take 25 points for putting myself at risk to keep the objective in my team's hands. The lack of reward for counterhacking does need to be tweaked.
Yea, theres a good chance you could die from counter hacking |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:40:00 -
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+1 |
Godin Thekiller
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
38
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:57:00 -
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They said that they will eventually do it. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2013.04.21 23:06:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:They said that they will eventually do it.
It should have been in the game from the start. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
27
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Posted - 2013.04.21 23:21:00 -
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i agree but nobody think about the fact you don't let the other team gain 100 wp, multiply it for a lot of hacking here it come an orbital strike . |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
256
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Posted - 2013.04.22 00:48:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:i agree but nobody think about the fact you don't let the other team gain 100 wp, multiply it for a lot of hacking here it come an orbital strike .
But me just waiting for the hack to finish so i can get my War points too. so i should get wp for counter hacking |
GeneralButtNaked
ZionTCD
370
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Posted - 2013.04.22 01:55:00 -
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Yes please. I absolutely despise blues letting the hack roll over to wait to get points.
It's a shame you have to motivate them so, but it has been shown to be needed. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
181
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Posted - 2013.04.22 02:02:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:shaman oga wrote:i agree but nobody think about the fact you don't let the other team gain 100 wp, multiply it for a lot of hacking here it come an orbital strike . But me just waiting for the hack to finish so i can get my War points too. so i should get wp for counter hacking
If the hack is worth 100pts if it finishes, then the counter hack should be worth 100pts to. Why? Because it's still a hack operation where the hacker(s) will be vulnerable for a relatively longer period of time compared to the original hacking. It'll give more incentive for hackers to stay and defend the objectives until the hack is finished and more incentive for players to counter hack to keep the objective instead of just rolling it. |
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Corn In TheSkidmark
Backstabbers N Cheaters Union
113
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Posted - 2013.04.22 02:04:00 -
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This should have been a given from the start. |
Chris F2112
187.
50
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:30:00 -
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This bothers me as well. I also think there should be a visual indicator of how long until the hack completes, and when counterhacking the hack will stop progressing. If you are counterhacking an objective it should not be able to switch sides and force a new hack. |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
346
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:37:00 -
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This suggestion comes up every week. It is still not a good one.
The decision to counter hack is a higher level tactical decision, maybe even a strategic one.
If it converts to Red it might get a shot off at the Blue MCC before the counter hack starts. What shape is your MCC in? How close is this going to turn out?
Stopping it will block that Red from getting +100 WP which might be the difference to an OB for their Squad Leader. Maybe even +120. Waiting and hacking it back will gain +100 WP for you. If they don't block your hack that is.
Leaving it alone is the best decision for CCP. Making the decision to hack or to wait is your decision. |
KatanaPT
Tech Guard
75
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Posted - 2013.04.22 09:39:00 -
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+1 counter hacking really deserves to be rewarded... it takes ages for us to do it. That and also for destroying enemy nanohives, there should be a point bonus. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
259
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Posted - 2013.04.22 10:16:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:This suggestion comes up every week. It is still not a good one.
The decision to counter hack is a higher level tactical decision, maybe even a strategic one.
If it converts to Red it might get a shot off at the Blue MCC before the counter hack starts. What shape is your MCC in? How close is this going to turn out?
Stopping it will block that Red from getting +100 WP which might be the difference to an OB for their Squad Leader. Maybe even +120. Waiting and hacking it back will gain +100 WP for you. If they don't block your hack that is.
Leaving it alone is the best decision for CCP. Making the decision to hack or to wait is your decision.
I understand what you're saying but it doesn't make much sense. Counter hacking takes way longer than a normal hack. Why shouldn't i get 100 war points for saving an objective, and blocking a missile and the enemy from spawning there. |
bacon blaster
Taiyou Corporation
15
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Posted - 2013.04.22 11:50:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Yes please. I absolutely despise blues letting the hack roll over to wait to get points.
It's a shame you have to motivate them so, but it has been shown to be needed.
It's not just the war points/sp you get from hacking a red, but also the fact that counter hacking takes far too long. Some one above me said that a counter hack should get 100points. I disagree. Because it takes longer and prevents the enemy from taking an objective for any length of time, I feel it should get more points. even 110, I would be thrilled. Then people would actually want to counter hack. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
27
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Posted - 2013.04.22 11:57:00 -
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why not suggest to increase the speed of counter hacking?
It should be faster than a normal hacking. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
26
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Posted - 2013.04.22 19:31:00 -
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+1 to points for the counter hack...50 would be good as it is half the points of a hack and you are doing something useful when you counter hack an objective. |
Red Dot 24601-HA
S.e.V.e.N.
62
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Posted - 2013.04.22 19:56:00 -
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I agree with the OP. The time it takes to counter hack is almost as long as it takes to let the hack complete and rehack...plus i get 100 wp if I wait... |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
RISE of LEGION
260
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Posted - 2013.04.22 20:13:00 -
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50-100 wp would be perfect
agreed? |
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