DUST Search - Crowdsourcing: A key to success?

Kiso Okami wrote:

Greetings, ladies and GÇ£ladiesGÇ¥ (wonder if youGÇÖll get this reference)...

Today, I wanted to bring a topic to you based on something that has come up in some of my conversations over at the IRC. I was talking to CCP LogicLoop about maps and wanted to know how they worked and why they were taking a bit too long to get them all corrected (sometimes even my patience runs out), changed or modified for differentiation. Then I asked him something along the lines of GÇ£is there even an GÇÿUnrealModGÇÖ type tool for DUST 514?GÇ¥ and he did answer to that affirmative. I was pretty sure the he was likely talking about the engine itself (Unreal Engine). So I asked him of a possibility that we could have an equivalent tool for this, to which he replied with a GÇ£maybeGÇ¥ type response (he wasnGÇÖt sure because either thatGÇÖs not on the roadmap or he was not aware of it). Further along, I think about the possible implications of having players help further the development of this game and I find myself typing this post for you to read.

What is your (the players) opinion on crowdsourcing? Is it something that could help DUST progress as a game? Would like to have a crack at the make-up of the world of New Eden, bet in the form of player-created or player-modified maps? How far would you like to get crowdsourcing, given the chance to have it? Personally, these questions IGÇÖd have an answer for myself (theyGÇÖre just opinions though). I have always been the kind that likes to create stuff, either for the sake of creation or for the mere representation of what the world looks like in my eyes.

Given the chance, I would personally like to create my own collection of drop-suits and vehicles, not because I think the current ones are not attractive to me (some of these do look quite interesting and do paint the world in the colors of their respective factions), but because I sometimes think that the extra input helps add another layer of perspective (the idea of what you personally would like to see found in this world, for one). The same I could say of maps, actually. Sometimes I think that I can do something in a completely different way, one that completely eschews the current concepts of what CCP think New Eden represents all the while representing what New Eden is (or is not, in the case of utopian concepts).

Obviously, there are so many ways that one can create a map or a drop-suit, or even a vehicle, but that does not mean that they have to follow a strict (GÇÿrigidGÇÖ might be a better word) set of design guides to get good results. This is where I think that crowd sourcing could help DUST 514, and, personally, I think crowd-sourcing, even if limited, could help bring that deeper feel of community that this game needs to achieve great success. I am certain that this would also help bring even more of a sense of story for the game, as well as add to the depth of character interaction (read: role-play). Obviously, creating an individual character, down to the equipment he carries, would help make these, generally no-name, bland individuals we know as clones far more unique as individuals even beyond the idea of being soldiers or mercs.

Of course, crowd-sourcing does not come without faults, and one would say that the biggest fault of a crowd sourcing system is usually the one reason that many a company often refuse to even support it. It has to be noted that crowd sourcing would also mean that the idea of the game, the one that the companies (in this case CCP), would be diluted under the scope. Maybe they want us to not have such a heavy input in their world and change it beyond what they think New Eden (rather than DUST or EVE) should be. Yes, they did host one contest in which ideas for new EVE ships were to be crowd sourced, but you can say they made the conservative picks for the winners, that is, those that won were chosen because their designs were the most relevant to EVE, and not one winning concept stood out for being unique (in the sense of not fitting in any known faction). But once again, CCP does look to crowd sourcing, if only in the forum of events.

Now, letGÇÖs go back to the questionsGÇª

What is your opinion on crowd sourcing?
Do you think CCP would benefit from having a more permanent (or recurring) crowdsourcing system?
How far would you like to see DUST let you crowd source (just modding or creating original content from scratch, or something in between)?


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Vethosis Universal Allies Inc. 2	Posted - 2013.04.21 02:25:00 - [1] - Quote Kiso Okami wrote: Greetings, ladies and GÇ£ladiesGÇ¥ (wonder if youGÇÖll get this reference)... Today, I wanted to bring a topic to you based on something that has come up in some of my conversations over at the IRC. I was talking to CCP LogicLoop about maps and wanted to know how they worked and why they were taking a bit too long to get them all corrected (sometimes even my patience runs out), changed or modified for differentiation. Then I asked him something along the lines of GÇ£is there even an GÇÿUnrealModGÇÖ type tool for DUST 514?GÇ¥ and he did answer to that affirmative. I was pretty sure the he was likely talking about the engine itself (Unreal Engine). So I asked him of a possibility that we could have an equivalent tool for this, to which he replied with a GÇ£maybeGÇ¥ type response (he wasnGÇÖt sure because either thatGÇÖs not on the roadmap or he was not aware of it). Further along, I think about the possible implications of having players help further the development of this game and I find myself typing this post for you to read. What is your (the players) opinion on crowdsourcing? Is it something that could help DUST progress as a game? Would like to have a crack at the make-up of the world of New Eden, bet in the form of player-created or player-modified maps? How far would you like to get crowdsourcing, given the chance to have it? Personally, these questions IGÇÖd have an answer for myself (theyGÇÖre just opinions though). I have always been the kind that likes to create stuff, either for the sake of creation or for the mere representation of what the world looks like in my eyes. Given the chance, I would personally like to create my own collection of drop-suits and vehicles, not because I think the current ones are not attractive to me (some of these do look quite interesting and do paint the world in the colors of their respective factions), but because I sometimes think that the extra input helps add another layer of perspective (the idea of what you personally would like to see found in this world, for one). The same I could say of maps, actually. Sometimes I think that I can do something in a completely different way, one that completely eschews the current concepts of what CCP think New Eden represents all the while representing what New Eden is (or is not, in the case of utopian concepts). Obviously, there are so many ways that one can create a map or a drop-suit, or even a vehicle, but that does not mean that they have to follow a strict (GÇÿrigidGÇÖ might be a better word) set of design guides to get good results. This is where I think that crowd sourcing could help DUST 514, and, personally, I think crowd-sourcing, even if limited, could help bring that deeper feel of community that this game needs to achieve great success. I am certain that this would also help bring even more of a sense of story for the game, as well as add to the depth of character interaction (read: role-play). Obviously, creating an individual character, down to the equipment he carries, would help make these, generally no-name, bland individuals we know as clones far more unique as individuals even beyond the idea of being soldiers or mercs. Of course, crowd-sourcing does not come without faults, and one would say that the biggest fault of a crowd sourcing system is usually the one reason that many a company often refuse to even support it. It has to be noted that crowd sourcing would also mean that the idea of the game, the one that the companies (in this case CCP), would be diluted under the scope. Maybe they want us to not have such a heavy input in their world and change it beyond what they think New Eden (rather than DUST or EVE) should be. Yes, they did host one contest in which ideas for new EVE ships were to be crowd sourced, but you can say they made the conservative picks for the winners, that is, those that won were chosen because their designs were the most relevant to EVE, and not one winning concept stood out for being unique (in the sense of not fitting in any known faction). But once again, CCP does look to crowd sourcing, if only in the forum of events. Now, letGÇÖs go back to the questionsGÇª What is your opinion on crowd sourcing? Do you think CCP would benefit from having a more permanent (or recurring) crowdsourcing system? How far would you like to see DUST let you crowd source (just modding or creating original content from scratch, or something in between)? Do you mean ladies as in men who make girl characters?