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Big miku Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 107	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:22:00 - [1] - Quote We could use some new weapons in general, but I've been thinking about the lack of sidearms. Here are some ideas. Carbines: shorter rifles with less ammo in the mag and reserve. Machine Pistols: Self explanatory. Sidearm shotguns: Basic shotguns with 3 or 4 rounds in mag One shot grenade launchers Discuss the lack of side arms.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:26:00 - [2] - Quote Shouldn't be a problem on the 6th: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/minmitar_flaylockpistol_1200x2133.jpg I just hope it's not AV only.
GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Legacy Rising 340	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:26:00 - [3] - Quote Actually, I don't think we need more sidearms. Most of the primaries are versatile enough that either of the sidearms will fill the void.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:36:00 - [4] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Actually, I don't think we need more sidearms. Most of the primaries are versatile enough that either of the sidearms will fill the void. According to the Dev Blogs, each race is going to have their own variation of weapon classes so we should be getting more sidearms as development progresses. Right now, all we have are Minmatar, Amarr, and (sometimes) Gallente. We still need Caldari to round things out for sidearms at least.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1245	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:47:00 - [5] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Shouldn't be a problem on the 6th: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/minmitar_flaylockpistol_1200x2133.jpg I just hope it's not AV only. I doubt it will be AV at all- more like a miniature mass driver.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:50:00 - [6] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Cosgar wrote: Shouldn't be a problem on the 6th: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/minmitar_flaylockpistol_1200x2133.jpg I just hope it's not AV only. I doubt it will be AV at all- more like a miniature mass driver. I think I need a towel...
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:51:00 - [7] - Quote There are three sidearms (Nova, Scrambler, SMG), but aren't there only two heavy weapon types? That seems worse.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1287	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:52:00 - [8] - Quote Big miku wrote: We could use some new weapons in general, but I've been thinking about the lack of sidearms. Here are some ideas. Carbines: shorter rifles with less ammo in the mag and reserve. Machine Pistols: Self explanatory. Sidearm shotguns: Basic shotguns with 3 or 4 rounds in mag One shot grenade launchers Discuss the lack of side arms. http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/smg_modelsheet1200x2133.jpg
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:57:00 - [9] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: There are three sidearms (Nova, Scrambler, SMG), but aren't there only two heavy weapon types? That seems worse. HMG = Minmatar Forge Gun = Caldari? So, going along with EVE lore heavies should eventually be getting a plasma weapon and either a pulse or sustained laser. Then the "Heavies are OP" debate will start all over again. Also, this might wind up being a heavy weapon: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/gallente_plasmablaster_1200x2133.jpg
Arx Ardashir Bragian Order Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.04.16 23:58:00 - [10] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/smg_modelsheet1200x2133.jpg Lol @ that "compact minigun." What's it shoot, BBs?

slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 157	Posted - 2013.04.17 00:00:00 - [11] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: There are three sidearms (Nova, Scrambler, SMG), but aren't there only two heavy weapon types? That seems worse. HMG = Minmatar Forge Gun = Caldari? So, going along with EVE lore heavies should eventually be getting a plasma weapon and either a pulse or sustained laser. Then the "Heavies are OP" debate will start all over again. Also, this might wind up being a heavy weapon: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/gallente_plasmablaster_1200x2133.jpg No, its already been stated that that is a weapon for everyone. Its a dumbfire rocket launcher.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2013.04.17 00:03:00 - [12] - Quote slypie11 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: There are three sidearms (Nova, Scrambler, SMG), but aren't there only two heavy weapon types? That seems worse. HMG = Minmatar Forge Gun = Caldari? So, going along with EVE lore heavies should eventually be getting a plasma weapon and either a pulse or sustained laser. Then the "Heavies are OP" debate will start all over again. Also, this might wind up being a heavy weapon: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/gallente_plasmablaster_1200x2133.jpg No, its already been stated that that is a weapon for everyone. Its a dumbfire rocket launcher. God, my head hearts from thinking of all the nerf cries if it's a dumbfire light weapon...
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1287	Posted - 2013.04.17 00:08:00 - [13] - Quote Cosgar wrote: slypie11 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: There are three sidearms (Nova, Scrambler, SMG), but aren't there only two heavy weapon types? That seems worse. HMG = Minmatar Forge Gun = Caldari? So, going along with EVE lore heavies should eventually be getting a plasma weapon and either a pulse or sustained laser. Then the "Heavies are OP" debate will start all over again. Also, this might wind up being a heavy weapon: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/gallente_plasmablaster_1200x2133.jpg No, its already been stated that that is a weapon for everyone. Its a dumbfire rocket launcher. God, my head hearts from thinking of all the nerf cries if it's a dumbfire light weapon... It IS a dumbfire light weapon, and one that we desperately need to take on the damage of the Swarm Launcher so that that thing's damage can be nerfed to a level appropriate for a weapon that doesn't even require you to aim.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 157	Posted - 2013.04.17 00:11:00 - [14] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cosgar wrote: slypie11 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: There are three sidearms (Nova, Scrambler, SMG), but aren't there only two heavy weapon types? That seems worse. HMG = Minmatar Forge Gun = Caldari? So, going along with EVE lore heavies should eventually be getting a plasma weapon and either a pulse or sustained laser. Then the "Heavies are OP" debate will start all over again. Also, this might wind up being a heavy weapon: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/gallente_plasmablaster_1200x2133.jpg No, its already been stated that that is a weapon for everyone. Its a dumbfire rocket launcher. God, my head hearts from thinking of all the nerf cries if it's a dumbfire light weapon... It IS a dumbfire light weapon, and one that we desperately need to take on the damage of the Swarm Launcher so that that thing's damage can be nerfed to a level appropriate for a weapon that doesn't even require you to aim. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED MY NO SKILL NO AIM LOCK ON EXPLOSIVE DEVISE!!!!!!!!!!! I love it so much.
slypie11 Planetary Response Organisation 157	Posted - 2013.04.17 00:12:00 - [15] - Quote Cosgar wrote: slypie11 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: There are three sidearms (Nova, Scrambler, SMG), but aren't there only two heavy weapon types? That seems worse. HMG = Minmatar Forge Gun = Caldari? So, going along with EVE lore heavies should eventually be getting a plasma weapon and either a pulse or sustained laser. Then the "Heavies are OP" debate will start all over again. Also, this might wind up being a heavy weapon: http://www.blackpalette.com/wp-content/gallery/artworks/gallente_plasmablaster_1200x2133.jpg No, its already been stated that that is a weapon for everyone. Its a dumbfire rocket launcher. God, my head hurts from thinking of all the nerf cries if it's a dumbfire light weapon... It will either do untold damage to infantry or make no sense and do no damage like the dumbfire SL before it.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 6	Posted - 2013.04.17 00:17:00 - [16] - Quote Don't get me wrong, I fully support new AV weapons for the sake a variety. But knowing the playerbase we're dealing with, the tears are going to flow when people start dying to it. Swarms were working as intended back in February because tankers didn't have enough SP invested into being truly effective and militia stuff could do the job. Now that players are in the 5~6mil territory, tanks are more dangerous and players haven't taken the time to invest into AV to establish balance. Once deployable instillations and tackling comes into play, balance should be established.


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