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GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.04.15 12:50:00 -
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Would be OP as all get out if you could rez someone without risk.
No risk, no reward. |
GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.04.15 13:52:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:
Simple fix for the first bit, have warpoints given for 'remote revives' in a similar manner and figure as to how it is with the repair arm. So to do it with consistency you really have to care about reviving or griefing. And with regards to griefing, this is pretty much encouraged/allowed in the EVE/Dust universe. It's half the fun for some and if CCP really cared to do away with it they'd remove the ability to TK, they'd ban corp thieves etc.
So, you want to be able to stand behind cover, and keep rezzing a guy out in the open to grab your sixty points while the sniper gets 50 for killing him again and again.
Yeah, seems about right, except for the guy on the ground.
Once again, right now, there is a risk in going to revive someone, and the reward is the points when you get there. If you let someone rez from cover, there is no risk, therefore give them zero points. |
GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.04.15 15:26:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:
I take it you overlooked the bit about it working like the repair arm in terms of war points rewarded and capped. Snipers re-kill normally revived people all the time and get their 50 points, so no difference here.
With regards to zero risk, you could say the same about the repair arm or the nanohive. You don't have to be in immediate danger to gain points from them. Except just being on the battlefield in Dust is risk in itself since there's always someone coming up behind or around you.
No risk with the repair tool? How about the fact that you don't have a gun out?
The hive is a wash, because it is an ammo resupply, the points are pretty limited, and you have to trade something else to carry it. So there is some risk, but that is why the points are lower.
Rezzing someone remotely carries zero risk. Therefore it should get you zero points. Which would mean no one would use it, and therefore it is a useless piece of equipment.
Now, if they gave you points for remote rezzing, then people would be doing stupid stuff just to get their 50 points, including allowing their teammates to get repeatedly killed without any harm to themselves. This is not a good game mechanic. |
GeneralButtNaked
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Posted - 2013.04.15 15:50:00 -
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Aran Abbas wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote:No risk with the repair tool? How about the fact that you don't have a gun out? The same risk would apply to the rez gun. Now granted that the distance it operates at would be greater than the repair tool (otherwise you might as well stab 'em), so 5 wp per revive seems like a decent trade-off, with an eventual cap if it's a piece of equipment. If it takes a weaponslot though...
Sure, let it take up a primary slot. I could go with that. If people want to be stupid and carry a weaponized version of equipment with a 10 m range. Let them go and gimp themselves out. More ISK for killing ill equipped fools.
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