All i-¦m asking is How is this an advantage.

I can-¦t stick several main weapons on my suit to be a "Sniper-Swarmlaunching-Assault-Logi", i-¦m not aware of "oneshotkillthemall" fitting with aur equip (or an isk one), so if you have a very unfair, unbalanced, awesome fitting that can be made only with aurum items, i-¦ll believe in P2w, otherwise, i-¦ll just see this as whinning.

Previous posters made specific claims about specific items. Yes, the CPU/PG is greatly reduced, but this only counts when you stack those items in a fitting, so it-¦s not that the "items" are overpowered (the stats are equal/worst than isk one), but (maybe, still need evidence) their grouping in a fitting.

Do you have a fitting that is aur only and outperforms isk ones ?

I do not think you have actually thought this through to the end game. In order to use the P2W modules you need to be at the max skill level. So it creates fittings that are only possible with Aurum items equipped. I'll show you, and you can do the figuring out for yourself.

First, lets get you to the Dust Fitting Tool:

Dust Fitting Tool

Make a copy(in the file menu in Google docs), and then you can edit the doc and follow along with me. Top centre there is a drop down menu with the list of starter fits, scroll down and select ALL LVL 5.


So now you have max skills, lets have you be an anti tank killing machine. Select a heavy proto suit.

Now, you take your proto suit out, and you equip:

2 x Complex Armor Plate
1 x Locus Grenade
1 x Ishukone Assault Forge Gun
1 x Ishukone Assault Submachine Gun

Next, try and equip three complex damage mods.

Fitting invalid.

Now try and fit either three 'Seismic' Heavy Damage mods, and presto, it just fits.

So there you have a fitting that is only possible with aurum items.

Keep in mind this problem actually gets WORSE for the other stuff, because this particular fit can't even take advantage of the boost offered by the regulators, the hives, the rep tool, etc.

How about a VK 1 glass cannon fit:

4 x complex damage mods -23 cpu each
2 x complex regulators -11 cpu each

Just on those alone using the Aurum items saves you 114 CPU. That is enough to run proto needles and hives. And a really nice grenade.

That is with MAX skills. Those are very tangible benefits.

Clearly, those goods are of a higher quality to their ISK counter parts. They are only available for RL money, and as such are supremacy goods.

Now, even if you don't want to call that P2W, it is certainly accurate that it is a far more flexible option to take advantage of, almost regardless of fit.

So, I cannot be any more clear on how the status of things are right now.

Maybe these things will change in the next build, maybe they won't. All I know is that since I first took notice of this, there have been more of these types of goods added to the market. Interpret that how ever you like.

What this comes down to is semantics. Either you call it P2W, or you call them supremacy goods, it is all the same thing. A tiered playing field. One for real money players, one for freebies. And that is precisely what CCP said the game would not be.

Now, I encourage you to play around with these items on the dust fitting tool. Use the sidearm or heavy damage aurum mod if you need to substitute for the newly added light complex damage mod. See what types of Aurum only fits you can create with the skills you actually have. See how to make it work for you.

You should understand that the people you play against already know this stuff, they just don't want to share their preferred proto fits. These types of fits will be used against you in PC.

http://www.reddit.com/r/dust514/comments/1ckz34/dust_514_developer_ama/c9him6w

I don-¦t have a reddit account and i don-¦t know how to use it, but the points of this topic could very well be sent there, after all, they-¦re watching and replying.